LWDT VI: Kropotkin's Bread Dead Redemption.

[Democratic Communist Federation]

Quite the opposite, actually. America inspired Hitler.

A lot of things inspired Hitler. However, it was Hitler who killed 12 million people in death camps.

[Genivaria]

No matter what way you want to try and phrase it, imperialism is not destroying the world.

Perhaps you should ask that question to the average Yemeni.

Then perhaps you should complain about Islamist Theocracies.

[Democratic Communist Federation]

Then perhaps you should complain about Islamist Theocracies.

To my knowledge, that subject has not been raised. However, since you have brought it [edit:up], I despise Salafism.

[Pasong Tirad]

Quite the opposite, actually. America inspired Hitler.

IIRC, Mr Smith Goes to Washington was used in Nazi Germany as propaganda because it illustrated that the American system was corrupt and needed a virtuous, unelected, man of iron will and vision to act as their savior.

Not entirely sure what you're getting at with this. Totally unaware of what that film is, as well.

Quite the opposite, actually. America inspired Hitler.

A lot of things inspired Hitler. However, it was Hitler who killed 12 million people in death camps.

Wasn't saying anything to the contrary about that at all. Just responding to Parkus' claim that white nationalists aren't Nazis. Not all of them may be, but all Nazis are definitely white nationalists.

[Genivaria]

Then perhaps you should complain about Islamist Theocracies.

To my knowledge, that subject has not been raised. However, since you have brought it it, I despise Salafism.

I'm raising it now since you're complaining about what's going on in Yemen.

[Democratic Communist Federation]

I'm raising it now since you're complaining about what's going on in Yemen.

Yemen is not a Salafi country.

[Genivaria]

I'm raising it now since you're complaining about what's going on in Yemen.

Yemen is not a Salafi country.

*sigh*
No DCF, but Saudi Arabia, the country that is currently bombing Yemen, is an Islamist Theocratic State.

[Pasong Tirad]

Yemen is not a Salafi country.

*sigh*
No DCF, but Saudi Arabia, the country that is currently bombing Yemen, is an Islamist Theocratic State.

Yeah fuck Saudi Arabia

[Democratic Communist Federation]

Wasn't saying anything to the contrary about that at all. Just responding to Parkus' claim that white nationalists aren't Nazis. Not all of them may be, but all Nazis are definitely white nationalists.

Semantics are always problematic. However, I would consider all white nationalists, in the world today, to be neonazis.

[Ostroeuropa]

Yemen is not a Salafi country.

*sigh*
No DCF, but Saudi Arabia, the country that is currently bombing Yemen, is an Islamist Theocratic State.

What's more they would be doing so even if the West threw up its arms and declared we weren't getting involved overseas anymore. It is in fact our refusal to get involved in their country that is giving them free reign to act this way. If we instead imposed our will on them, that would be imperialistic, would it not?

[Democratic Communist Federation]

No DCF, but Saudi Arabia, the country that is currently bombing Yemen, is an Islamist Theocratic State.

And when did I ever express solidarity with the Saudis?

[Genivaria]

No DCF, but Saudi Arabia, the country that is currently bombing Yemen, is an Islamist Theocratic State.

And when did I ever express solidarity with the Saudis?

*face-palm*

[Genivaria]

*sigh*
No DCF, but Saudi Arabia, the country that is currently bombing Yemen, is an Islamist Theocratic State.

What's more they would be doing so even if the West threw up its arms and declared we weren't getting involved overseas anymore. It is in fact our refusal to get involved in their country that is giving them free reign to act this way. If we instead imposed our will on them, that would be imperialistic, would it not?

I'd prefer interventionist but by some people's idiotic definitions, yes.

[Reikoku]

I'm supposed believe America was Hitlerite until the 1960's?

You're supposed to believe that America still has to wrestle with the fact that it has a history of supporting white nationalist policies, and it still to this day continues to aid white nationalist policies. Moreso in the past two years due to prominent white nationalists actually having been part of the current administration.

The US certainly has a history of WASP supremacism, next to no one would dispute that. But it wasn't White Nationalism, which is a separatist ideology that believes that whites need to form their own nation independent of other races. Asserting that it was just plays into the rhetoric of people like David Duke and Greg Johnson.

[Reikoku]

No matter what way you want to try and phrase it, imperialism is not destroying the world.

Perhaps you should ask that question to the average Yemeni.

There was no question being asked. Just a statement of fact.

[Democratic Communist Federation]

*face-palm*

And you have claimed to be a fellow left-libertarian with me? Ciao.

[Genivaria]

*face-palm*

And you have claimed to be a fellow left-libertarian with me? Ciao.

I am baffled by the irrelevance of this post to what was said.

[Democratic Communist Federation]

I am baffled by the irrelevance of this post to what was said.

You mean that, after I said I did not support the Saudis, you questioned my sincerity? What left-libertarian would support Saudi Arabia?

[Proctopeo]

Should we send weapons to the yellow vests?

Again, I have problems with the use of the word we. That implies there is a them, too. I don't see the world in that sort of dualistic way.

Maybe not on purpose, but definitely implicitly.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I am baffled by the irrelevance of this post to what was said.

You mean that, after I said I did not support the Saudis, you questioned my sincerity? What left-libertarian would support Saudi Arabia?

One who understands realpolitik for starters.

[Kubra]

You mean that, after I said I did not support the Saudis, you questioned my sincerity? What left-libertarian would support Saudi Arabia?

One who understands realpolitik for starters.

"Realpolitik" is what gets the US in PR problems in the first place.

[Washington Resistance Army]

One who understands realpolitik for starters.

"Realpolitik" is what gets the US in PR problems in the first place.

Such is the nature of the game. No matter who we support in regions like that they're gonna be awful and it's gonna be bad for PR.

[Fahran]

A Nazi backed President is currently in office, clearly it's the peaceful reformist socialists who are the problem.

It's a bit disingenuous to call Trump a Nazi-backed president given that Nazis do not comprise the majority of his supporters. Even the broader category of white supremacist only covers a relatively small number of people.

Yemen is not a Salafi country.

The Houthis are not Salafis, but they are Islamists. The Saudis are both Salafis and Islamists - at least when they're not drinking expensive booze behind closed doors.

[Valrifell]

IIRC, Mr Smith Goes to Washington was used in Nazi Germany as propaganda because it illustrated that the American system was corrupt and needed a virtuous, unelected, man of iron will and vision to act as their savior.

Not entirely sure what you're getting at with this. Totally unaware of what that film is, as well.

"America inspired hitler" -> "Oh, here's an American film that the Nazi's used"

[Pasong Tirad]

Not entirely sure what you're getting at with this. Totally unaware of what that film is, as well.

"America inspired hitler" -> "Oh, here's an American film that the Nazi's used"

Ah, yes, makes more sense I suppose.

One who understands realpolitik for starters.

"Realpolitik" is what gets the US in PR problems in the first place.

Does PR stand for Puerto Rico or public relations? The correct answer is yes.