LWDT VI: Kropotkin's Bread Dead Redemption.

[Fahran]

If anything, you have to live under their bad decisions, so if anything, you should be harsher.

I'm certain that criticisms could be flung back as well given that the Sexual Revolution caused an explosion in STD's throughout the sixties and seventies as well as an increase in out-of-wedlock pregnancies. That's not an argument that I'm making here, but it's worthwhile to actually consider the other side's argument before concluding that they have nothing at all to offer society.

I'm sure that they believe in what they advocate, though if that makes their intentions "noble," then it would be impossible to criticize just about any political movement.

We need more, not fewer, gadflies for the family and for discipline. I'm not in favor of abstinence-only sexual education, but urging moderation, restraint, and respect are important as well.

[Democratic Communist Federation]

Men are actually quite dis-empowered in the court room.

What evidence do you have for that statement? For instance, are you talking about all men or men of a certain age, race, ethnicity, tribe, or caste?

[Democratic Communist Federation]

It's narrower than the commonly accepted definition..

It is not narrower among critical (Marxist) sociologists.

[Fahran]

What evidence do you have for that statement? For instance, are you talking about all men or men of a certain age, race, ethnicity, tribe, or caste?

All men. With young black and indigenous men having it even worse than the others. I posted a source earlier. And, again, the problem with the oppressor-oppressed dynamic is that it ignores the oppression by men of men and by women of women or else belittles it next to oppression which feeds more adequately into the narrative. It's not talking about institutions so much as it's talking about social groups.

It is not narrower among critical (Marxist) sociologists.

A subset of sociologists whose methods are flawed and who are largely inspired by someone whose historiography and social theory were inadequate beyond being a somewhat tolerable criticism of society in the late nineteenth century.

[Second Empire of America]

I'm personally fine with that. I'm abstaining from sex until marriage* myself. I don't have anything against people who have premarital sex, but I personally want no part in it.

*Or engagement, if the Republicans manage to ban same-sex marriage again and force me to delay my wedding.

Idk, I've personally never seen any emotional benefits of abstinence, and there's no real 'moral benefits' to speak of, either.

Some people, like myself, aren't really comfortable having sex outside a committed relationship. There are emotional benefits, they just don't affect everyone. (As for moral benefits, well, who can call avoiding the transmission of STDs anything but moral.)

[Fahran]

Idk, I've personally never seen any emotional benefits of abstinence, and there's no real 'moral benefits' to speak of, either.

I wouldn't say I champion abstinence so much as selectivity and emotional commitment. Being used by people and discarded sucks. STDs suck. Facing a pregnancy alone because your partner is an ass sucks.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Idk, I've personally never seen any emotional benefits of abstinence, and there's no real 'moral benefits' to speak of, either.

I wouldn't say I champion abstinence so much as selectivity and emotional commitment.

Emotional commitment is something quite important to me, I gotta say.

Sex without emotion is just robotic.

[Fahran]

Emotional commitment is something quite important to me, I gotta say.

Sex without emotion is just robotic.

Mutual masturbation is probably the best description I've heard, but, given my prudishness, I probably won't dwell on this subject too long. Pardon me.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Emotional commitment is something quite important to me, I gotta say.

Sex without emotion is just robotic.

Mutual masturbation is probably the best description I've heard, but, given my prudishness, I probably won't dwell on this subject too long. Pardon me.

That's up for the telegrams.

Anyways, like I said, commitment in a relationship, regardless of its composition (it could be same-sex, polyamorous, etc...) is a pretty damn good key to a successful one.

[Fahran]

That's up for the telegrams.

I'm lost...

Anyways, like I said, commitment in a relationship, regardless of its composition (it could be same-sex, polyamorous, etc...) is a pretty damn good key to a successful one.

Yeppers.

[Grenartia]

Idk, I've personally never seen any emotional benefits of abstinence, and there's no real 'moral benefits' to speak of, either.

Some people, like myself, aren't really comfortable having sex outside a committed relationship.

I'm pretty sure that's most people, myself included.

There are emotional benefits, they just don't affect everyone.

Which is why I fail to see the use in teaching them, if abstinence is going to be expected of most people, but few will experience them.

(As for moral benefits, well, who can call avoiding the transmission of STDs anything but moral.)

Not having an STD is a health benefit, not a moral one.

Idk, I've personally never seen any emotional benefits of abstinence, and there's no real 'moral benefits' to speak of, either.

I wouldn't say I champion abstinence so much as selectivity and emotional commitment. Being used by people and discarded sucks. STDs suck. Facing a pregnancy alone because your partner is an ass sucks.

Sure, emphasize those two things. I just don't see any use in promoting abstinence. Because yes, everything you said that sucks does suck. And not in the good way.

I wouldn't say I champion abstinence so much as selectivity and emotional commitment.

Emotional commitment is something quite important to me, I gotta say.

Sex without emotion is just robotic.

Indeed.

Emotional commitment is something quite important to me, I gotta say.

Sex without emotion is just robotic.

Mutual masturbation is probably the best description I've heard, but, given my prudishness, I probably won't dwell on this subject too long. Pardon me.

O O F

Anyways, like I said, commitment in a relationship, regardless of its composition (it could be same-sex, polyamorous, etc...) is a pretty damn good key to a successful one.

Most definitely. Communication as well. Comprehensive Sex Ed shouldn't just be about how not to get STDs, or an explanation of how reproduction works. It should address the ins and outs (pun not intended) of all forms of intimate relationships, and the basics of how not to be a shitty person in any intimate relationship.

[Reikoku]

If anything, you have to live under their bad decisions, so if anything, you should be harsher.

I'm certain that criticisms could be flung back as well given that the Sexual Revolution caused an explosion in STD's throughout the sixties and seventies as well as an increase in out-of-wedlock pregnancies. That's not an argument that I'm making here, but it's worthwhile to actually consider the other side's argument before concluding that they have nothing at all to offer society.

I'm sure that they believe in what they advocate, though if that makes their intentions "noble," then it would be impossible to criticize just about any political movement.

We need more, not fewer, gadflies for the family and for discipline. I'm not in favor of abstinence-only sexual education, but urging moderation, restraint, and respect are important as well.

It's probably a good time to confess that for some reason, I mixed Argentina (where Liri lives) up with Brazil, so my mind leaped to Bolsonaro rather than Argentinan conservatives, who I know nothing about. Disregard my post please.

[Torrocca]

I'm certain that criticisms could be flung back as well given that the Sexual Revolution caused an explosion in STD's throughout the sixties and seventies as well as an increase in out-of-wedlock pregnancies. That's not an argument that I'm making here, but it's worthwhile to actually consider the other side's argument before concluding that they have nothing at all to offer society.


We need more, not fewer, gadflies for the family and for discipline. I'm not in favor of abstinence-only sexual education, but urging moderation, restraint, and respect are important as well.

It's probably a good time to confess that for some reason, I mixed Argentina (where Liri lives) up with Brazil, so my mind leaped to Bolsonaro rather than Argentinan conservatives, who I know nothing about. Disregard my post please.

Are you kidding? We all know Argentina is nothing but a Brazilian ploy meant to undermine the British imperial destiny by seizing the Falklands!

[Grenartia]

It's probably a good time to confess that for some reason, I mixed Argentina (where Liri lives) up with Brazil, so my mind leaped to Bolsonaro rather than Argentinan conservatives, who I know nothing about. Disregard my post please.

Are you kidding? We all know Argentina is nothing but a Brazilian ploy meant to undermine the British imperial destiny by seizing the Falklands!

Argentina? Oh, you mean Brazilian Canada.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Are you kidding? We all know Argentina is nothing but a Brazilian ploy meant to undermine the British imperial destiny by seizing the Falklands!

Argentina? Oh, you mean Brazilian Canada.

*Greater Paraguay

[Grenartia]

Argentina? Oh, you mean Brazilian Canada.

*Greater Paraguay

*Lesser Uruguay

[Fahran]

*Greater Paraguay

President Lopez did nothing wrong and was a gud boi.

Brazilian and Argentine imperialists BTFO!

*Lesser Uruguay

Sad reacts only.

[Torrocca]

*Greater Paraguay

*Lesser Uruguay

*Southeastern Greater Bolivia

[Hammer Britannia]

Argentina? Oh, you mean Brazilian Canada.

*Greater Paraguay

*59th American State

[Grenartia]

*Lesser Uruguay

*Southeastern Greater Bolivia

*Wet Chile

[Second Empire of America]

As a reminder:

I'm planning to leave NationStates. The community is just getting too toxic for me to enjoy posting here. The last straw was how nearly half the forum just endorsed Jair Bolsonaro, a man who wants to murder tens of thousands of people and has stated that he wants to attack and kill people like me. I'm going to stick around a couple more days for Z-Day, but then I'm quitting for good.

Torra, you're the one friend here I'm going to miss. Though we disagree on many political issues, you're still a very nice person and I wish you the best of luck for the rest of your time here on NationStates.

If anyone wants to fight zombies with me before I leave, let me know.

[Torrocca]

I'm planning to leave NationStates. The community is just getting too toxic for me to enjoy posting here. The last straw was how nearly half the forum just endorsed Jair Bolsonaro, a man who wants to murder tens of thousands of people and has stated that he wants to attack and kill people like me. I'm going to stick around a couple more days for Z-Day, but then I'm quitting for good.

Torra, you're the one friend here I'm going to miss. Though we disagree on many political issues, you're still a very nice person and I wish you the best of luck for the rest of your time here on NationStates.

Take care of yourself out there! We'll always be here if you ever come back <3

[Western Vale Confederacy]

*Greater Paraguay

President Lopez did nothing wrong and was a gud boi.

Brazilian and Argentine imperialists BTFO!

*Lesser Uruguay

Sad reacts only.

*laughs in majority of the male population dead*

[Second Empire of America]

*Southeastern Greater Bolivia

*Wet Chile

*Occupied South Mexico

[Second Empire of America]

I'm planning to leave NationStates. The community is just getting too toxic for me to enjoy posting here. The last straw was how nearly half the forum just endorsed Jair Bolsonaro, a man who wants to murder tens of thousands of people and has stated that he wants to attack and kill people like me. I'm going to stick around a couple more days for Z-Day, but then I'm quitting for good.

Torra, you're the one friend here I'm going to miss. Though we disagree on many political issues, you're still a very nice person and I wish you the best of luck for the rest of your time here on NationStates.

Take care of yourself out there! We'll always be here if you ever come back <3

I'll miss you.