LWDT VI: Kropotkin's Bread Dead Redemption.

[Frievolk]

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And, just for reference, I'm a feminist. Ostro knows this. We argued for about a week a couple months back. The usual feminist response to blatant discrimination against men is to assert that it's the result of patriarchal attitudes, which it generally is, even women can have such attitudes, not to deny its existence outright.

Of course men have been discriminated against in specific cases, including prison sentences. However, that is not the same as institutional discrimination. The latter has a very specific definition, and it applies to racial and ethnic minorities, the disabled, women, etc., not to men. Discrimination and institutional discrimination are not the same.

So, you're suggesting that precedented and repeated discrimination in favor of certain genders and against certain genders in cases regarding rape, sexual abuse, sexual assault, and domestic abuse in general, by the State Institutions in Judiciary, Law Enforcement, and Medicine doesn't exist?

[Dumb Ideologies]

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And, just for reference, I'm a feminist. Ostro knows this. We argued for about a week a couple months back. The usual feminist response to blatant discrimination against men is to assert that it's the result of patriarchal attitudes, which it generally is, even women can have such attitudes, not to deny its existence outright.

Of course men have been discriminated against in specific cases, including prison sentences. However, that is not the same as institutional discrimination. The latter has a very specific definition, and it applies to racial and ethnic minorities, the disabled, women, etc., not to men. Discrimination and institutional discrimination are not the same.

>Evidence literally demonstrating that legal institutions routinely treat men and women differently, to the disadvantage of men
>Not institutional discrimination, because the definition specifically rules out the possibility of the words referring to men



Golly gee I wonder if that means there's really no institutional discrimination or just that the social science institutions coming up with these bullshit definitions might themselves be guilty of institutional discrimination in trying to impose a binarised oppressor/oppressed ideology on the study of gender where it doesn't fit.

We better get MENSA on this one, it's a toughie.

[Benuty]

So there is a mod for Heart of Iron 4 called Antebellum which allows you to play as a Trotsky led soviet union (who I deposed in a party congress event chain). Currently, I have turned the Soviets into a loose anarcho-communist confederation of republics with a focus on global revolution, and no national identity. Suffice it to say the revolution will be civilized, and spread by love from mother bear.

[Mardla]

Sartre was not influential on the pomos, he actually got into a hissy fit over Foucault rejecting Marx, and Derrida overtly said he found Sartre worthless. Sartre is a pop philosopher and his only serious influence on academic thought was through Beauvoir.

Yes, the one enduring quality of Sartre was that he always thought he was more important than he was. The death of his existential Marxism is a fitting tribute to his work.

That's because he was more important than he was.

[Fahran]

So there is a mod for Heart of Iron 4 called Antebellum which allows you to play as a Trotsky led soviet union (who I deposed in a party congress event chain). Currently, I have turned the Soviets into a loose anarcho-communist confederation of republics with a focus on global revolution, and no national identity. Suffice it to say the revolution will be civilized, and spread by love from mother bear.

Tfw he mentions Brother Bear and it's not the animated film.

[Mardla]

Source.

And, just for reference, I'm a feminist. Ostro knows this. We argued for about a week a couple months back. The usual feminist response to blatant discrimination against men is to assert that it's the result of patriarchal attitudes, which it generally is, even women can have such attitudes, not to deny its existence outright.

Of course men have been discriminated against in specific cases, including prison sentences. However, that is not the same as institutional discrimination. The latter has a very specific definition, and it applies to racial and ethnic minorities, the disabled, women, etc., not to men. Discrimination and institutional discrimination are not the same.

Aren't you begging the question?

[Proctopeo]

Source.

And, just for reference, I'm a feminist. Ostro knows this. We argued for about a week a couple months back. The usual feminist response to blatant discrimination against men is to assert that it's the result of patriarchal attitudes, which it generally is, even women can have such attitudes, not to deny its existence outright.

Of course men have been discriminated against in specific cases, including prison sentences. However, that is not the same as institutional discrimination. The latter has a very specific definition, and it applies to racial and ethnic minorities, the disabled, women, etc., not to men. Discrimination and institutional discrimination are not the same.

I expected something slightly better than a transparent circular argument.

[Second Empire of America]

I'm planning to leave NationStates. The community is just getting too toxic for me to enjoy posting here. The last straw was how nearly half the forum just endorsed Jair Bolsonaro, a man who wants to murder tens of thousands of people and has stated that he wants to attack and kill people like me. I'm going to stick around a couple more days for Z-Day, but then I'm quitting for good.

Torra, you're the one friend here I'm going to miss. Though we disagree on many political issues, you're still a very nice person and I wish you the best of luck for the rest of your time here on NationStates.

[Benuty]

I'm planning to leave NationStates. The community is just getting too toxic for me to enjoy posting here. The last straw was how nearly half the forum just endorsed Jair Bolsonaro, a man who wants to murder tens of thousands of people and has stated that he wants to attack and kill people like me. I'm going to stick around a couple more days for Z-Day, but then I'm quitting for good.

Torra, you're the one friend here I'm going to miss. Though we disagree on many political issues, you're still a very nice person and I wish you the best of luck for the rest of your time here on NationStates.

You will be back as once here you can never leave this place.

[Liriena]

So there is a mod for Heart of Iron 4 called Antebellum which allows you to play as a Trotsky led soviet union (who I deposed in a party congress event chain). Currently, I have turned the Soviets into a loose anarcho-communist confederation of republics with a focus on global revolution, and no national identity. Suffice it to say the revolution will be civilized, and spread by love from mother bear.

Hell yeah dude

[Liriena]

I'm planning to leave NationStates. The community is just getting too toxic for me to enjoy posting here. The last straw was how nearly half the forum just endorsed Jair Bolsonaro, a man who wants to murder tens of thousands of people and has stated that he wants to attack and kill people like me. I'm going to stick around a couple more days for Z-Day, but then I'm quitting for good.

Torra, you're the one friend here I'm going to miss. Though we disagree on many political issues, you're still a very nice person and I wish you the best of luck for the rest of your time here on NationStates.

[Pasong Tirad]

So there is a mod for Heart of Iron 4 called Antebellum which allows you to play as a Trotsky led soviet union (who I deposed in a party congress event chain). Currently, I have turned the Soviets into a loose anarcho-communist confederation of republics with a focus on global revolution, and no national identity. Suffice it to say the revolution will be civilized, and spread by love from mother bear.

The revolution will be loved into existence!

[Aellex]

So there is a mod for Heart of Iron 4 called Antebellum which allows you to play as a Trotsky led soviet union (who I deposed in a party congress event chain). Currently, I have turned the Soviets into a loose anarcho-communist confederation of republics with a focus on global revolution, and no national identity. Suffice it to say the revolution will be civilized, and spread by love from mother bear.

Hell yeah dude

I advise you both the "Total War" reworked version of the BICE mod if you wanna play as everyone's favorite ice-picked man.

[Proctopeo]

Hell yeah dude

I advise you both the "Total War" reworked version of the BICE mod if you wanna play as everyone's favorite ice-picked man.

>not "Trotsky Leads Mexico"

[Libertarian Communist Planets]

How is the disparity I referenced earlier not a form of institutional discrimination? Unless all of society has to discriminate against them? But that would invalidate this definition completely.

Because institutional discrimination refers to the powerful systematically discriminating against the relatively powerless in particular social institutions. Since men are not a disempowered category, I would call their treatment in prison sentencing discrimination but not institutional discrimination.

[Libertarian Communist Planets]

So, you're suggesting that precedented and repeated discrimination in favor of certain genders and against certain genders in cases regarding rape, sexual abuse, sexual assault, and domestic abuse in general, by the State Institutions in Judiciary, Law Enforcement, and Medicine doesn't exist?

No, I am simply defining a term, not arguing that discrimination against men does not exist in the prison system.

[Libertarian Communist Planets]

Aren't you begging the question?

No, I am defining a term. You are free to define terms differently if you like.

[Frievolk]

So, you're suggesting that precedented and repeated discrimination in favor of certain genders and against certain genders in cases regarding rape, sexual abuse, sexual assault, and domestic abuse in general, by the State Institutions in Judiciary, Law Enforcement, and Medicine doesn't exist?

No, I am simply defining a term, not arguing that discrimination against men does not exist in the prison system.

Your definition is factually and academically wrong tho.

[Second Empire of America]

Uh... do they not realize that Sex Ed reduces unplanned pregnancies, which in turn reduces abortions? If they truly cared about reducing abortion rates, they would support comprehensive sex ed, free contraception, and any other methods of preventing unplanned pregnancies.

Sex ed which was truly comprehensive would include information about the emotional and moral benefits of abstinence. I would hope those who ask for "comprehensive" sex ed will not object to that.

I'm personally fine with that. I'm abstaining from sex until marriage* myself. I don't have anything against people who have premarital sex, but I personally want no part in it.

*Or engagement, if the Republicans manage to ban same-sex marriage again and force me to delay my wedding.

[Pasong Tirad]

Uh... do they not realize that Sex Ed reduces unplanned pregnancies, which in turn reduces abortions? If they truly cared about reducing abortion rates, they would support comprehensive sex ed, free contraception, and any other methods of preventing unplanned pregnancies.

Sex ed which was truly comprehensive would include information about the emotional and moral benefits of abstinence. I would hope those who ask for "comprehensive" sex ed will not object to that.

Don't know any good and proper leftist who thinks not teaching abstinence should be a thing. Just that it should be taught in equal footing with everything else and not be, you know, the only thing taught like in many places in the world.

[Grenartia]

Sex ed which was truly comprehensive would include information about the emotional and moral benefits of abstinence. I would hope those who ask for "comprehensive" sex ed will not object to that.

I'm personally fine with that. I'm abstaining from sex until marriage* myself. I don't have anything against people who have premarital sex, but I personally want no part in it.

*Or engagement, if the Republicans manage to ban same-sex marriage again and force me to delay my wedding.

Idk, I've personally never seen any emotional benefits of abstinence, and there's no real 'moral benefits' to speak of, either.

[Grenartia]

I'm planning to leave NationStates. The community is just getting too toxic for me to enjoy posting here. The last straw was how nearly half the forum just endorsed Jair Bolsonaro, a man who wants to murder tens of thousands of people and has stated that he wants to attack and kill people like me. I'm going to stick around a couple more days for Z-Day, but then I'm quitting for good.

Torra, you're the one friend here I'm going to miss. Though we disagree on many political issues, you're still a very nice person and I wish you the best of luck for the rest of your time here on NationStates.

I can't say I disagree with your reasons for leaving, though I'll say many have tried to leave this place, and few have succeeded.

[Pasong Tirad]

I'm personally fine with that. I'm abstaining from sex until marriage* myself. I don't have anything against people who have premarital sex, but I personally want no part in it.

*Or engagement, if the Republicans manage to ban same-sex marriage again and force me to delay my wedding.

Idk, I've personally never seen any emotional benefits of abstinence, and there's no real 'moral benefits' to speak of, either.

Well, I mean, if anything it's certainly a pretty good way of not getting STDs.

[Grenartia]

Idk, I've personally never seen any emotional benefits of abstinence, and there's no real 'moral benefits' to speak of, either.

Well, I mean, if anything it's certainly a pretty good way of not getting STDs.

But that's neither an emotional nor 'moral' benefit. Besides, you can not get STDs while not being abstinent.

[Frievolk]

I'm planning to leave NationStates. The community is just getting too toxic for me to enjoy posting here. The last straw was how nearly half the forum just endorsed Jair Bolsonaro, a man who wants to murder tens of thousands of people and has stated that he wants to attack and kill people like me. I'm going to stick around a couple more days for Z-Day, but then I'm quitting for good.

Torra, you're the one friend here I'm going to miss. Though we disagree on many political issues, you're still a very nice person and I wish you the best of luck for the rest of your time here on NationStates.

I can't say I disagree with your reasons for leaving, though I'll say many have tried to leave this place, and few have succeeded.

NS is like the internet definition of Hotel California.
You can check out any time you want, but you can never leave.