LWDT VI: Kropotkin's Bread Dead Redemption.

[Democratic Communist Federation]

IMO, technocracy would likely lead to social alienation, not progress. Real people have empathy. Even the most advanced computer does not.

People are biological computers, checkmate.

Checkmate? lol. How does that relate to my point about empathy?

[Democratic Communist Federation]

That is why ideally psychiatrists and psychologists would help develop policies and programs to battle alienation.

As a sociologist, I am very skeptical of the ability of psychiatrists and psychologists to battle alienation.

[Democratic Communist Federation]

Libertarian is innately anti-authoritarian, though.

I agree that left-libertarianism is, by definition, anti-authoritarian.

[Democratic Communist Federation]

I said a government to be a government must have the right to kill those who resist it. Note that resistance includes more than simply speaking out against a government, it also includes resisting arrest, etc.

Then you appear to have a very authoritarian view of governance.

[Democratic Communist Federation]

And if the community votes to murder someone?

Any community that has a right to vote on killing someone ceases to be a community.

[Loben]

Libertarian is innately anti-authoritarian, though.

I agree that left-libertarianism is, by definition, anti-authoritarian.

Horseshit.

[Democratic Communist Federation]

I agree that left-libertarianism is, by definition, anti-authoritarian.

Horseshit.

Blunt, aren't you? I am a left-libertarian and I am anti-authoritarian.

[Loben]

Horseshit.

Blunt, aren't you? I am a left-libertarian and I am anti-authoritarian.

so do you see yourself running a Gulag after you glorious revolution?

[Democratic Communist Federation]

so do you see yourself running a Gulag after you glorious revolution?

Um, no. You are confusing left-libertarianism with (so-called) left-authoritarianism.

[Great Minarchistan]

the left-lib -> left-auth pipeline is real anyways

[Valrifell]

the left-lib -> left-auth pipeline is real anyways

What's weird is that my pipeline was right-lib --> left-lib.

Also you cant steal our talking point.

[Mardla]

I said a government to be a government must have the right to kill those who resist it. Note that resistance includes more than simply speaking out against a government, it also includes resisting arrest, etc.

Then you appear to have a very authoritarian view of governance.

Government is innately authoritarian.

[Great Minarchistan]

What's weird is that my pipeline was right-lib --> left-lib.

Only smart individuals can afford to become structural right-libs as per scientifical proof on the positive correlation between IQ and right-libertarian positions

Also you cant steal our talking point.

Sorry but as an ebbil capitalist I'll alienate and merchandise your talking point :^)

[Valrifell]

What's weird is that my pipeline was right-lib --> left-lib.

Only smart individuals can afford to become structural right-libs as per scientifical proof on the positive correlation between IQ and right-libertarian positions

Are you implying I was smarter before I shifted ideologically to care more about the poor? I don't think that usually happens.

I'll have you know that IQ is a worthless metric and is usually peddled in terribly unscientific contexts. Many if not most have disavowed it.

[Mardla]

What's weird is that my pipeline was right-lib --> left-lib.

Only smart individuals can afford to become structural right-libs as per scientifical proof on the positive correlation between IQ and right-libertarian positions

Also you cant steal our talking point.

Sorry but as an ebbil capitalist I'll alienate and merchandise your talking point :^)

Libertarians do not think correlation equals causation. If they did then they wouldn't have high IQ's.

[Mardla]

Only smart individuals can afford to become structural right-libs as per scientifical proof on the positive correlation between IQ and right-libertarian positions

Are you implying I was smarter before I shifted ideologically to care more about the poor? I don't think that usually happens.

I'll have you know that IQ is a worthless metric and is usually peddled in terribly unscientific contexts. Many if not most have disavowed it.

>intelligence is a worthless metric
Progressivism explained, everyone.

[Great Minarchistan]

Are you implying I was smarter before I shifted ideologically to care more about the poor? I don't think that usually happens.

Mind my addendum on "structural". Also, if you cared about the poor you'd abandon feeling-based policy and advocate for market-solutions that have been, by far, the best way to reduce poverty.

I'll have you know that IQ is a worthless metric

Cognitive intelligence is a thing, and it's traditionally measured through IQ -- not to say that it was correctly used in my argument. There's also EQ, which is, according to the rather scarce available studies on it, heavily correlated with IQ.

and is usually peddled in terribly unscientific contexts.

Do you analyze the validity of a hypothesis by looking at how intense shitposters on the internet bring it up? You wouldn't be a good scientist.

[Great Minarchistan]

Only smart individuals can afford to become structural right-libs as per scientifical proof on the positive correlation between IQ and right-libertarian positions


Sorry but as an ebbil capitalist I'll alienate and merchandise your talking point :^)

Libertarians do not think correlation equals causation. If they did then they wouldn't have high IQ's.

Perfectly, that's exactly why I scratched any evidence of "relationship" among both variables and merely kept it as a statistical fact :^)

[Valrifell]

I really should stop posting here.

[Mardla]

Libertarians do not think correlation equals causation. If they did then they wouldn't have high IQ's.

Perfectly, that's exactly why I scratched any evidence of "relationship" among both variables and merely kept it as a statistical fact :^)

Ah...Jews also tend to have higher IQ's.

[Bakery Hill]

The idea that libertarians have higher IQs is a little ridiculous having met libertarians.

[Great Minarchistan]

Perfectly, that's exactly why I scratched any evidence of "relationship" among both variables and merely kept it as a statistical fact :^)

Ah...Jews also tend to have higher IQ's.

That's actually interesting to bring up, as their higher IQ is almost certainly genetic rather than a matter of luck/socioeconomic progress (Flynn effect).
dat risk for genetic diseases doe

[Bakery Hill]

Are you implying I was smarter before I shifted ideologically to care more about the poor? I don't think that usually happens.

I'll have you know that IQ is a worthless metric and is usually peddled in terribly unscientific contexts. Many if not most have disavowed it.

>intelligence is a worthless metric
Progressivism explained, everyone.

Intelligence is worth a great deal, perhaps more than anything, but it is very hard to measure in any standard and total way.

[Bakery Hill]

the left-lib -> left-auth pipeline is real anyways

There's no pipeline because there is no difference, and this is a good thing.

[Great Minarchistan]

The idea that libertarians have higher IQs is a little ridiculous having met libertarians.

Ancaps often shift through pipelines towards fascism or tankism instead of remaining as structural right-libs.