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Which Form of Leftism is The Best?

Left-Libertarianism
125
55%
Yes
66
29%
Left-Authoritarianism
37
16%
 
Total votes : 228

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Silver Commonwealth
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Founded: Aug 16, 2018
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Silver Commonwealth » Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:37 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Silver Commonwealth wrote:
I don't even have discord app, so... I am lucky, I guess.

You don't need it to access it. Oh you young folk nowadays, thinking that everything is inaccessible without an app!

Sorry, I didn't knew. I mean, I don't care about discord that much, so...
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- ᴀᴅᴍɪɴɪꜱᴛʀᴀᴛɪᴏɴ
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|☐ʜᴏᴍᴇ☐|❖ꜱᴄ ɪɴ ʜᴏɪ4❖|★ꜱᴄ'ꜱ ʀᴀᴅɪᴏ&ʟᴏᴄᴀᴛɪᴏɴꜱ★|❇ᴄᴏɴꜱᴛɪᴛᴜᴛɪᴏɴ❇|✧ᴍɪʟɪᴛᴀʀʏ✧|✝ᴍᴀᴘꜱ&ɪɴꜰᴏ✝|☢ʜɪꜱᴛᴏʀʏ☢|
⚖ ᴀꜱ ᴛʜᴇ ᴍᴏᴅᴇʀᴀᴛᴇꜱ ᴀʀᴏᴜɴᴅ ᴛʜᴇᴍ ꜰᴇʟʟ,
ʀᴀᴅɪᴄᴀʟɪᴢᴀᴛɪᴏɴ ᴏꜰ ꜱᴄ'ꜱ ᴅᴇᴍᴏᴄʀᴀᴄʏ ꜱᴜᴘᴘᴏʀᴛᴇʀꜱ ʙᴇᴄᴀᴍᴇ ᴀ ᴍᴀᴛᴛᴇʀ ᴏꜰ ꜱᴜʀᴠɪᴠᴀʟ ☠
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This nation doesn't represent my views

IRL views: not much different from 4 years ago (socdem)

Tom being a control freak + pathological distrust of private enterprises = this nation

''I thought that I was a conservative. Turns out, I was just sentimental at times''

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Dumb Ideologies
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Mother Knows Best State

Postby Dumb Ideologies » Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:41 am

Silver Commonwealth wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:You don't need it to access it. Oh you young folk nowadays, thinking that everything is inaccessible without an app!

Sorry, I didn't knew. I mean, I don't care about discord that much, so...


It's the future, apparently. I thought leftists were meant to embrace progress???

I've found the Western spy, Ivan.
Are these "human rights" in the room with us right now?
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Mattopilos II
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Ex-Nation

Postby Mattopilos II » Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:43 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Mattopilos II wrote:
LWDT discord: basically dead
Libertarian Discord: full of arseholes being arseholes
RWDT discord: last I was on there, it was like the above but worse

So.... yeah no.


I'll stop my occasional unsubtle "notice me senpai" appeals for an invite if the place is dead, good to know.

I speak fluent arsehole and I'm not very easily offended so as long as arseholes aren't throwing so much shit at each other that an entertaining or enlightening discussion is impossible I'm not too bothered.

I am taking a break from discord because I am this close to a mental breakdown with how much bullshit I have been put through. It isn’t the arseholes that are bad on discord - it’s the gaslighters, the overassumers, the overlabellers.
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Ex-Nation

Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:52 am

Mattopilos II wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
You're correct generally, I suspect, because the decentralised and invite-only structure means neutrality and fairness of decisions is limited and by design only those who broadly agree will tend to get invites and then not get kicked.

That said, in terms of NSG-related ones I've actually found the RWDT discord (not going to invite anyone, I'm humble rank and file) friendly and quite diverse of opinion given that it contains right-libertarians, religious rightists, fascists, and a few anti-capitalists. I'm sure there's an LWDT discord too which would presumably also be quite diverse given the anarchists, communists, libertarians, Stalinists and various flavours of syndicalism knocking about over here.


LWDT discord: basically dead
Libertarian Discord: full of arseholes being arseholes
RWDT discord: last I was on there, it was like the above but worse

So.... yeah no.


The RWDT discord is basically dead
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Silver Commonwealth
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Postby Silver Commonwealth » Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:55 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Silver Commonwealth wrote:Sorry, I didn't knew. I mean, I don't care about discord that much, so...


It's the future, apparently. I thought leftists were meant to embrace progress???

I've found the Western spy, Ivan.


Strangely enough, I have managed to be okay without discord so far. :p
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⚒ ᴛʜᴇ ɴᴀᴛɪᴏɴᴀʟ ᴡᴏʀʟᴅ ʀᴇᴘᴜʙʟɪᴄ ᴏꜰ ꜱɪʟᴠᴇʀ ᴄᴏᴍᴍᴏɴᴡᴇᴀʟᴛʜ ⚒
|☐ʜᴏᴍᴇ☐|❖ꜱᴄ ɪɴ ʜᴏɪ4❖|★ꜱᴄ'ꜱ ʀᴀᴅɪᴏ&ʟᴏᴄᴀᴛɪᴏɴꜱ★|❇ᴄᴏɴꜱᴛɪᴛᴜᴛɪᴏɴ❇|✧ᴍɪʟɪᴛᴀʀʏ✧|✝ᴍᴀᴘꜱ&ɪɴꜰᴏ✝|☢ʜɪꜱᴛᴏʀʏ☢|
⚖ ᴀꜱ ᴛʜᴇ ᴍᴏᴅᴇʀᴀᴛᴇꜱ ᴀʀᴏᴜɴᴅ ᴛʜᴇᴍ ꜰᴇʟʟ,
ʀᴀᴅɪᴄᴀʟɪᴢᴀᴛɪᴏɴ ᴏꜰ ꜱᴄ'ꜱ ᴅᴇᴍᴏᴄʀᴀᴄʏ ꜱᴜᴘᴘᴏʀᴛᴇʀꜱ ʙᴇᴄᴀᴍᴇ ᴀ ᴍᴀᴛᴛᴇʀ ᴏꜰ ꜱᴜʀᴠɪᴠᴀʟ ☠
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This nation doesn't represent my views

IRL views: not much different from 4 years ago (socdem)

Tom being a control freak + pathological distrust of private enterprises = this nation

''I thought that I was a conservative. Turns out, I was just sentimental at times''

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Dumb Ideologies
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:01 am

Mattopilos II wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
I'll stop my occasional unsubtle "notice me senpai" appeals for an invite if the place is dead, good to know.

I speak fluent arsehole and I'm not very easily offended so as long as arseholes aren't throwing so much shit at each other that an entertaining or enlightening discussion is impossible I'm not too bothered.

I am taking a break from discord because I am this close to a mental breakdown with how much bullshit I have been put through. It isn’t the arseholes that are bad on discord - it’s the gaslighters, the overassumers, the overlabellers.


I get it. People constantly making assumptions and attacking things that they presume you believe solely because "you're an X" can get pretty exhausting, particularly if it's accompanied by a bunch of character-attacking reputational snarls. Either trying to be the better person and constantly provide people with "learning moments" or ripping them to shreds with unmitigated hostility only works for so long before you need a bit of a rest from it to recharge.

Different types of arsehole. Abrupt arseholes who say "socially unacceptable" things but you can have a laugh and banter with are quite different from the frustrating energy-sappers on both sides of the aisle who unironically believe themselves to be paragons of virtue while they drag everyone else into their cesspit of "can't argue for shit".
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Postby Torrocca » Tue Oct 16, 2018 6:35 am

Mattopilos II wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
You're correct generally, I suspect, because the decentralised and invite-only structure means neutrality and fairness of decisions is limited and by design only those who broadly agree will tend to get invites and then not get kicked.

That said, in terms of NSG-related ones I've actually found the RWDT discord (not going to invite anyone, I'm humble rank and file) friendly and quite diverse of opinion given that it contains right-libertarians, religious rightists, fascists, and a few anti-capitalists. I'm sure there's an LWDT discord too which would presumably also be quite diverse given the anarchists, communists, libertarians, Stalinists and various flavours of syndicalism knocking about over here.


LWDT discord: basically dead
Libertarian Discord: full of arseholes being arseholes
RWDT discord: last I was on there, it was like the above but worse

So.... yeah no.


Can confirm all three of the above tbqh. Gots me a couple death threats on the second and hopes I commit suicide from some DOS player on the third. Quite lovely, if you ask me. :3
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The Xenopolis Confederation
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:27 am

On the subject of right-wing trolls coming into the LWDT from earlier, I actually rarely post or lurk on RWDT but I post on LWDT a lot, despite being right-leaning on the whole.
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Postby Sovaal » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:30 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:On the subject of right-wing trolls coming into the LWDT from earlier, I actually rarely post or lurk on RWDT but I post on LWDT a lot, despite being right-leaning on the whole.

Obvs a troll. /s
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:31 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Mattopilos II wrote:
LWDT discord: basically dead
Libertarian Discord: full of arseholes being arseholes
RWDT discord: last I was on there, it was like the above but worse

So.... yeah no.


I'll stop my occasional unsubtle "notice me senpai" appeals for an invite if the place is dead, good to know.

I speak fluent arsehole and I'm not very easily offended so as long as arseholes aren't throwing so much shit at each other that an entertaining or enlightening discussion is impossible I'm not too bothered.

I could give you an invite to the LWDT Discord if you're interested and if I haven't been kicked yet.
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:33 am

Mattopilos II wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
You're correct generally, I suspect, because the decentralised and invite-only structure means neutrality and fairness of decisions is limited and by design only those who broadly agree will tend to get invites and then not get kicked.

That said, in terms of NSG-related ones I've actually found the RWDT discord (not going to invite anyone, I'm humble rank and file) friendly and quite diverse of opinion given that it contains right-libertarians, religious rightists, fascists, and a few anti-capitalists. I'm sure there's an LWDT discord too which would presumably also be quite diverse given the anarchists, communists, libertarians, Stalinists and various flavours of syndicalism knocking about over here.


LWDT discord: basically dead
Libertarian Discord: full of arseholes being arseholes
RWDT discord: last I was on there, it was like the above but worse

So.... yeah no.

Yeah, can we talk about the fact that there are more authoritarians in the LDT discord than Libertarians? I go onto it and the first thing I see is people circlejerking about how much democracy sucks. What's going on?
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:34 am

Torrocca wrote:
Mattopilos II wrote:
LWDT discord: basically dead
Libertarian Discord: full of arseholes being arseholes
RWDT discord: last I was on there, it was like the above but worse

So.... yeah no.


Can confirm all three of the above tbqh. Gots me a couple death threats on the second and hopes I commit suicide from some DOS player on the third. Quite lovely, if you ask me. :3

Who was sending the death threats?
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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:35 am

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Postby Frievolk » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:39 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Mattopilos II wrote:
LWDT discord: basically dead
Libertarian Discord: full of arseholes being arseholes
RWDT discord: last I was on there, it was like the above but worse

So.... yeah no.

Yeah, can we talk about the fact that there are more authoritarians in the LDT discord than Libertarians? I go onto it and the first thing I see is people circlejerking about how much democracy sucks. What's going on?
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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:40 am

The Batorys wrote:The lumpenproletariat is literally the dregs of society, the worst of the worst, such as criminals. You can't spread unionization to such a segment of society:


That was Marx's perspective, yes. IMO, it was not one of his better moments. However, I am more sympathetic to Fanon's approach. I don't think that anyone is beyond the possibility of emancipation.
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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:40 am

The Batorys wrote:Sorry to hear that. :(


Ty, but such is life.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:42 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
I'll stop my occasional unsubtle "notice me senpai" appeals for an invite if the place is dead, good to know.

I speak fluent arsehole and I'm not very easily offended so as long as arseholes aren't throwing so much shit at each other that an entertaining or enlightening discussion is impossible I'm not too bothered.

I could give you an invite to the LWDT Discord if you're interested and if I haven't been kicked yet.


I'm always interested in the opportunity to deepen my bonds of internet friendship with you all.

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Postby Genivaria » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:48 am

Hello fellow Left-bois, how is life?

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Genivaria
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:49 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Mattopilos II wrote:
LWDT discord: basically dead
Libertarian Discord: full of arseholes being arseholes
RWDT discord: last I was on there, it was like the above but worse

So.... yeah no.

Yeah, can we talk about the fact that there are more authoritarians in the LDT discord than Libertarians? I go onto it and the first thing I see is people circlejerking about how much democracy sucks. What's going on?

Anger over losing an election?

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Postby Silver Commonwealth » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:51 am

Genivaria wrote:Hello fellow Left-bois, how is life?

Okay, personally.
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:29 am

Genivaria wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Yeah, can we talk about the fact that there are more authoritarians in the LDT discord than Libertarians? I go onto it and the first thing I see is people circlejerking about how much democracy sucks. What's going on?

Anger over losing an election?

The election happened already?
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:40 am

Frievolk wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Yeah, can we talk about the fact that there are more authoritarians in the LDT discord than Libertarians? I go onto it and the first thing I see is people circlejerking about how much democracy sucks. What's going on?
Bashing on the status quo, no matter what it is, is one of the traditional hallmarks of the left. Most of the time, that status quo is legit bad (i.e. The state of child labor in early 19th century industrial Europe).

Huh?
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:46 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Frievolk wrote:Bashing on the status quo, no matter what it is, is one of the traditional hallmarks of the left. Most of the time, that status quo is legit bad (i.e. The state of child labor in early 19th century industrial Europe).

Huh?


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Postby Frievolk » Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:48 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Frievolk wrote:Bashing on the status quo, no matter what it is, is one of the traditional hallmarks of the left. Most of the time, that status quo is legit bad (i.e. The state of child labor in early 19th century industrial Europe).

Huh?
I accidentally read LDT as LWDT and responded accordingly. Disregard that (true as it might be)
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:11 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Anger over losing an election?

The election happened already?

I mean't the Presidential Election.

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