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Which Form of Leftism is The Best?

Left-Libertarianism
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55%
Yes
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29%
Left-Authoritarianism
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Total votes : 228

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Page
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Postby Page » Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:47 am

Nekokuni wrote:Does anyone have a favorite left-wing poem? Mine is an anti-war poem by feminist and pacifist Yosano Akiko during the Russo-Japanese War.


It's so cliche but I really love the song Solidarity Forever. I have a fantasy that one day it becomes the national anthem of a libertarian-socialist America.
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Dumb Ideologies
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Mother Knows Best State

Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:15 am

Painisia wrote:Dumb Ideologies in a nutshell:

https://youtu.be/XmBWOIg_FCE?t=21


Ha! Smoll boy try put big fishy in nutshell. Pat his tiny leetle head and give biscuit!
Are these "human rights" in the room with us right now?
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The Multiversal Communist Collective
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Multiversal Communist Collective » Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:23 pm

Page wrote:It's so cliche but I really love the song Solidarity Forever. I have a fantasy that one day it becomes the national anthem of a libertarian-socialist America.


Are you on the Marxist or anarchist side of libertarian socialism?

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Eodor
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Eodor » Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:10 pm

Painisia wrote:Dumb Ideologies in a nutshell:

https://youtu.be/XmBWOIg_FCE?t=21

An Anime with Hitler in it?

Oh hell yesssss
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Dumb Ideologies
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Mother Knows Best State

Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:17 pm

Eodor wrote:
Painisia wrote:Dumb Ideologies in a nutshell:

https://youtu.be/XmBWOIg_FCE?t=21

An Anime with Hitler in it?

Oh hell yesssss


Who needs Hitler when you've got Haruhi though?
Are these "human rights" in the room with us right now?
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The Xenopolis Confederation
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Anarchy

Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:45 pm

Nekokuni wrote:Does anyone have a favorite left-wing poem? Mine is an anti-war poem by feminist and pacifist Yosano Akiko during the Russo-Japanese War.

Never let them kill you, brother!
His Imperial Majesty would not come out to fight ...
How could He possibly make them believe
that it is honourable to die?

Mine is All You Need Is Love, or just about the whole of the Animals album.
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Bakery Hill
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Ex-Nation

Postby Bakery Hill » Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:16 pm

Can't get this damn lizard out of my window.
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Dumb Ideologies
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:29 am

Bakery Hill wrote:Can't get this damn lizard out of my window.


The lizard-cat alliance runs the place, we all just live here.
Are these "human rights" in the room with us right now?
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Postby Uxupox » Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:16 am

Bakery Hill wrote:Can't get this damn lizard out of my window.


just cook it. I have a few recipes for iguanas myself.
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Painisia
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Postby Painisia » Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:10 am

So fully automated gay space communism is transcended communism?
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Proctopeo
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Postby Proctopeo » Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:08 am

Painisia wrote:So fully automated gay space communism is transcended communism?

It's communism, but an even bigger meme than normal.
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Kubra
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Kubra » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:37 pm

Nekokuni wrote:
The Multiversal Communist Collective wrote:
Just a question: Do you consider yourself both a Leftist and a national syndicalist? Usually, national syndicalists are right-wing, while revolutionary syndicalists are left-wing. I realize that these categories may be a bit fluid, but I thought I would ask nonetheless.


Oh, no, sorry for the confusion lol. IC is short for “in-character.” it's meant to indicate what my fictional nation is, and not what I personally believe. I don't consider myself a Leftist because most of my views come from the Kokugaku (National Learning), which was an early nationalist movement centered around Nihonjinron.
are you the same animeposter who usually posts here
just asking for the sake of continuity
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Cekoviu
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Postby Cekoviu » Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:05 pm

Kubra wrote:
Nekokuni wrote:
Oh, no, sorry for the confusion lol. IC is short for “in-character.” it's meant to indicate what my fictional nation is, and not what I personally believe. I don't consider myself a Leftist because most of my views come from the Kokugaku (National Learning), which was an early nationalist movement centered around Nihonjinron.
are you the same animeposter who usually posts here
just asking for the sake of continuity

are you talking about reikoku or di?
pro: women's rights
anti: men's rights

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Kubra
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Kubra » Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:15 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Kubra wrote: are you the same animeposter who usually posts here
just asking for the sake of continuity

are you talking about reikoku or di?
They're not... They're not the same?
“Atomic war is inevitable. It will destroy half of humanity: it is going to destroy immense human riches. It is very possible. The atomic war is going to provoke a true inferno on Earth. But it will not impede Communism.”
Comrade J. Posadas

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Northern Davincia
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Ex-Nation

Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:28 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Eodor wrote:An Anime with Hitler in it?

Oh hell yesssss


Who needs Hitler when you've got Haruhi though?

I can't argue with this.
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Major-Tom
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Ex-Nation

Postby Major-Tom » Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:32 pm

Nekokuni wrote:Does anyone have a favorite left-wing poem? Mine is an anti-war poem by feminist and pacifist Yosano Akiko during the Russo-Japanese War.

Never let them kill you, brother!
His Imperial Majesty would not come out to fight ...
How could He possibly make them believe
that it is honourable to die?


My favorite goes something like;

"Give me more hours, or higher pay, cause being a millennial ain't easy, okay?"

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The Multiversal Communist Collective
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Multiversal Communist Collective » Tue Sep 18, 2018 4:10 pm

Major-Tom wrote:My favorite goes something like;

"Give me more hours, or higher pay, cause being a millennial ain't easy, okay?"


That writer should try being a Leftist baby boomer. We thought the revolution was within sight only to see it melt away.

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Northern Davincia
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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Sep 18, 2018 4:45 pm

The Multiversal Communist Collective wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:My favorite goes something like;

"Give me more hours, or higher pay, cause being a millennial ain't easy, okay?"


That writer should try being a Leftist baby boomer. We thought the revolution was within sight only to see it melt away.

We can always sell the remains in little bottles. The collector's edition will be 10% more expensive.
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Economic Left/Right: 9.75
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Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."

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Cekoviu
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Postby Cekoviu » Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:07 pm

Kubra wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:are you talking about reikoku or di?
They're not... They're not the same?

yikes, you didn't know that?
pro: women's rights
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Kubra
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Kubra » Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:39 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Kubra wrote: They're not... They're not the same?

yikes, you didn't know that?
man how am I supposed to tell animeposters apart
“Atomic war is inevitable. It will destroy half of humanity: it is going to destroy immense human riches. It is very possible. The atomic war is going to provoke a true inferno on Earth. But it will not impede Communism.”
Comrade J. Posadas

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The Multiversal Communist Collective
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Multiversal Communist Collective » Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:30 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:We can always sell the remains in little bottles. The collector's edition will be 10% more expensive.


Sadly, there are no remains, only memories.

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Great Minarchistan
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Postby Great Minarchistan » Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:37 pm

Capitalism doesn't undermine its own growth prospects, don't @ me
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Torrocca
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Postby Torrocca » Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:38 pm

Great Minarchistan wrote:Capitalism doesn't undermine its own growth prospects, don't @ me


Capitalism's gonna kill itself with the rope it sells to us workers. :^)
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Great Minarchistan
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Postby Great Minarchistan » Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:42 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Great Minarchistan wrote:Capitalism doesn't undermine its own growth prospects, don't @ me


Capitalism's gonna kill itself with the rope it sells to us workers. :^)

Sorry but workers aren't NEET's as you seem to be, they are more focused on improving their lives instead of larping a bolshevik revolution :^)
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Torrocca
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Postby Torrocca » Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:48 pm

Great Minarchistan wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Capitalism's gonna kill itself with the rope it sells to us workers. :^)

Sorry but workers aren't NEET's as you seem to be, they are more focused on improving their lives instead of larping a bolshevik revolution :^)


This entire statement is so laughably wrong it's gone from funny to sad tbh.
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NOTICE 1: Anything depicted IC on this nation does NOT reflect my IRL views or values, and is not endorsed by me.
NOTICE 2: Most RP and every OOC post by me prior to 2023 are no longer endorsed nor tolerated by me. I've since put on my adult pants!
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