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Which side are you on?

For the cats!
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29%
For the humans!
29
18%
I'll lay low until I see how this pans out..
18
11%
Cats need to be controlled
25
16%
This is just nanny state anti-catist regulation
16
10%
I would put a Hasselhoff option but I did on the last and not a peep of thanks from Ethel Mermania so screw that..
6
4%
Poll.. let us decide all with polls!
15
9%
Other
5
3%
 
Total votes : 160
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Aellex
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Postby Aellex » Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:39 am

Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:
Aellex wrote:1. It doesn't appear so from your posting history.
2. Read the rest. ;)

1. Posting history, let alone your interpretation of my posting history, does not prove anything about the individual.
2. I have :P. You make non sequitur arguments according to definition 1 far more than I do along definition 2. Plus, definition 2 is just bringing up something seemingly unrelated, while definition 1 is use of deceptive, logically unsound arguments.

Lol, whatever you wanna tell yourself fam.
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Salus Maior
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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:15 am

Seems like it's for the best.

Cats are an incredibly destructive invasive species, if it needs to be banned then so be it.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:48 pm

Part Three: Auckland Regional Council's proposal to classify all unchipped cats as feral draws death threats.
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Zutroy
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Postby Zutroy » Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:58 am

Humans complaining about cats altering natural areas is the epitome of the pot calling the kettle black. In New Zealand, which has already been irreversibly transformed over the past couple of centuries by an influx of humans from elsewhere, it is especially ironic.
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Postby Albrenia » Tue Sep 18, 2018 4:19 am

Zutroy wrote:Humans complaining about cats altering natural areas is the epitome of the pot calling the kettle black. In New Zealand, which has already been irreversibly transformed over the past couple of centuries by an influx of humans from elsewhere, it is especially ironic.


We're hypocrites in this sense, yeah. Still not wrong though.
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Postby Helensburgh » Tue Sep 18, 2018 4:26 am

The cat population needs to be regulated, for sure. But a ban is draconian (totally not just overreacting because I'm a dreaded cat person). Better to require bells on their collars, I think, but I'm not versed on whether that actually works in aggregate. It stopped mine from bringing in dead animals every second week, though.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Tue Sep 18, 2018 4:41 am

Bombadil wrote:We thought Trump would bring about the end of the world


Nah just you and the fear mongers....

Also if NZ has a cat problem, I don't see how good banning cats will do. A nation declared war on goats and it didn't go well.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:27 am

Chernoslavia wrote:
Bombadil wrote:We thought Trump would bring about the end of the world


Nah just you and the fear mongers....

Also if NZ has a cat problem, I don't see how good banning cats will do. A nation declared war on goats and it didn't go well.


That's emus, unless you're thinking of Ecuador.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:05 am

Zutroy wrote:Humans complaining about cats altering natural areas is the epitome of the pot calling the kettle black. In New Zealand, which has already been irreversibly transformed over the past couple of centuries by an influx of humans from elsewhere, it is especially ironic.


I don't really care if it's hypocritical or not. We have the means and the willingness to do something about it, so rather than do nothing and let more species go extinct, why not try to save them?
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Postby Luziyca » Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:11 am

Personally, I'd just require that cats stay inside at all times to resolve the problem. A total ban is too draconian, but if we try and keep the cats in... maybe that will save a few lives without pissing off the cat lovers.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:11 am

Costa Fierro wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
Nah just you and the fear mongers....

Also if NZ has a cat problem, I don't see how good banning cats will do. A nation declared war on goats and it didn't go well.


That's emus, unless you're thinking of Ecuador.


I was, it was on an island of theirs.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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