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Postby Petrasylvania » Sat Sep 01, 2018 12:23 pm

Uxupox wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Social media and 24 hour news coverage were nonexistent in the past, especially with Taft. He didn't have an independent prosecutor digging into his history either.


What does this have to do with health?

It's called "stress".
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Postby Imperial Esplanade » Sat Sep 01, 2018 12:24 pm

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There have been plenty of presidents that were fat. 5 of them were even considered by modern the BMI standards to be Obese. I think his BMI is roughly from a 35 to 40 scale and we've had presidents with a much higher rate than this. Heck there was one Prez that got stuck plenty of times in the white house bathtub. None of these died during office. Trump's is just the latest one in any case.

Social media and 24 hour news coverage were nonexistent in the past, especially with Taft. He didn't have an independent prosecutor digging into his history either.

To be fair, the healthcare a President has available to him now, compared to back then, was almost certainly night-and-day.

This isn't to say Trump wasn't able to afford quality care previously, but now it is of national security concern, and is treated appropriately.
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What does this have to do with health?

It's called "stress".


Dude not getting stressed by this. I'd argue he craves and gets pleasured by this.
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Postby Imperial Esplanade » Sat Sep 01, 2018 12:26 pm

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Petrasylvania wrote:It's called "stress".


Dude not getting stressed by this. I'd argue he craves and gets pleasured by this.

That sounded oddly sexual.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Sat Sep 01, 2018 12:29 pm

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Petrasylvania wrote:It's called "stress".


Dude not getting stressed by this. I'd argue he craves and gets pleasured by this.

You're saying that he enjoys Cohen flipping on him.

Sure.
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Postby Uxupox » Sat Sep 01, 2018 12:31 pm

Imperial Esplanade wrote:
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Dude not getting stressed by this. I'd argue he craves and gets pleasured by this.

That sounded oddly sexual.


Weirdly and historically enough there has been governmental bureaucrats that have enjoyed giving speeches or have suffered boughs of "anomalies" when under radar of photography or video.
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Postby Uxupox » Sat Sep 01, 2018 12:37 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
Dude not getting stressed by this. I'd argue he craves and gets pleasured by this.

You're saying that he enjoys Cohen flipping on him.

Sure.


maybe he does. who knows.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Sat Sep 01, 2018 12:38 pm

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Petrasylvania wrote:You're saying that he enjoys Cohen flipping on him.

Sure.


maybe he does. who knows.

You apparently.
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Postby Uxupox » Sat Sep 01, 2018 12:44 pm

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maybe he does. who knows.

You apparently.


Nah.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Sat Sep 01, 2018 12:46 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
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Dude not getting stressed by this. I'd argue he craves and gets pleasured by this.

You're saying that he enjoys Cohen flipping on him.

Sure.


Actually, Pet, he might be sick enough. I'd suppose a professional shrink would have to determine that.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Sat Sep 01, 2018 12:59 pm

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Imperial Esplanade wrote:Although surprisingly FDR's brain haemorrhage was the last natural one. Although there is something anticlimactic to having your last words be "Doctor, I have a terrific headache".

And FDR was "only" 63 at the time.


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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:00 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:You're saying that he enjoys Cohen flipping on him.

Sure.


Actually, Pet, he might be sick enough. I'd suppose a professional shrink would have to determine that.

Perhaps. We'll never know, though, because this thread is going to get back to talking about Senator McCain and not about the presidency in general. I also expect this to be locked some time on Sunday, after he's been interred.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:17 pm

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Jerzylvania wrote:
Actually, Pet, he might be sick enough. I'd suppose a professional shrink would have to determine that.

Perhaps. We'll never know, though, because this thread is going to get back to talking about Senator McCain and not about the presidency in general. I also expect this to be locked some time on Sunday, after he's been interred.


That would be apropos.
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Postby Albrenia » Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:14 pm

Rest In Peace, and all.

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Postby Jolthig » Sat Sep 01, 2018 8:25 pm

While I don't agree with a lot of what he did, I feel for his family. Little late, but never too late to share my thoughts. :P
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Postby Nui-ta » Sat Sep 01, 2018 8:40 pm

I do not particularly care for the GOP.

But McCain, I considered an exception. As much as I disagreed with his politics, I thought he was a stand-up guy and an admirable leader, and this country has suffered a loss with his passing.
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Postby Jolthig » Sat Sep 01, 2018 8:42 pm

Nui-ta wrote:I do not particularly care for the GOP.

But McCain, I considered an exception. As much as I disagreed with his politics, I thought he was a stand-up guy and an admirable leader, and this country has suffered a loss with his passing.

Which kind of reminds me of George H. W. bush. While I disagree with his politics and foreign policy, he's a pretty nice guy from what I hear.

Sorry, don't want to threadjack, but yeah, McCain was also pretty interesting. Watched part of a documentary on him
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Postby Herskerstad » Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:08 am

Had a feeling the funeral would be a place to create political attacks. Can't help but feel it's pretty petty.
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Postby Dogmeat » Sun Sep 02, 2018 3:03 am

Herskerstad wrote:Had a feeling the funeral would be a place to create political attacks. Can't help but feel it's pretty petty.

It's a special time when inviting several speakers from both parties is construed as a "political attack."
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Postby Herskerstad » Sun Sep 02, 2018 3:28 am

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Herskerstad wrote:Had a feeling the funeral would be a place to create political attacks. Can't help but feel it's pretty petty.

It's a special time when inviting several speakers from both parties is construed as a "political attack."


Plenty of jabs at Trump from some of the speakers which you can't really separate from the point made, and it was not as if the McCain himself did not hit back with full force and then some while he was still around.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:44 am

Herskerstad wrote:
Dogmeat wrote:It's a special time when inviting several speakers from both parties is construed as a "political attack."


Plenty of jabs at Trump from some of the speakers which you can't really separate from the point made, and it was not as if the McCain himself did not hit back with full force and then some while he was still around.


MCCain always stood up to any bully he encountered. Trump happened to be the last one.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:21 pm

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Postby Forsher » Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:10 pm

Herskerstad wrote:
Dogmeat wrote:It's a special time when inviting several speakers from both parties is construed as a "political attack."


Plenty of jabs at Trump from some of the speakers which you can't really separate from the point made, and it was not as if the McCain himself did not hit back with full force and then some while he was still around.


Funerals are intended to celebrate the lives of people, right?
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Postby Mardla » Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:36 pm

The neocons were a travesty and did immense harm to this country. McCain was a major figure in that movement. Being "so brave" does remotely excuse him, many destructive leaders were courageous soldiers.

Hope he's in heaven. I'll rest easier myself knowing he's not on earth to torment my country.
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Postby Albrenia » Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:39 pm

Mardla wrote:The neocons were a travesty and did immense harm to this country. McCain was a major figure in that movement. Being "so brave" does remotely excuse him, many destructive leaders were courageous soldiers.

Hope he's in heaven. I'll rest easier myself knowing he's not on earth to torment my country.


I think this is the best anti-McCain post in this thread. Not disrespectful at all and good points made.

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