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Postby Xadufell » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:44 am

The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
The Great Imperator Jeffrey wrote:And then after xeno extermination is complete, I will turn on Earth and force them to crown me as Emperor of the Human Race. Then, I will use my planet destroying weapon to take over the galaxy.


Exterminating the Xenos seems like a senseless waste; as mentioned previously, It'd be better to conquer the Xenos in order to properly civilize them.


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I was wondering how many pages it would be before this thread degenerated into sex with aliens...


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Postby The Great Imperator Jeffrey » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:46 am

San Lumen wrote:
The Great Imperator Jeffrey wrote:And then after xeno extermination is complete, I will turn on Earth and force them to crown me as Emperor of the Human Race. Then, I will use my planet destroying weapon to take over the galaxy.


At an end your rule is and not short enough it was. *turns on lightsaber

All the humans will see me as a great and benevolent ruler that helped bring mankind to glory.
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:46 am

The Great Imperator Jeffrey wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
At an end your rule is and not short enough it was. *turns on lightsaber

All the humans will see me as a great and benevolent ruler that helped bring mankind to glory.

Chaos > Humanity
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Postby -United Republic of Freedonia » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:47 am

Hmmm. I'm down with bringing the glory and might of Humanity upon these xenos and show them what's mankind is all about. But we could consider reasons to not destroy the planet, the planet could rich natural resources, probably they have cool technology that can be very useful for our empire, or maybe the meat of xenos is tasty. I dunno, but i will totally space-war-crime/genocize/vaporize/slave/burn/blow the fuck out of the aliens.

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Postby Euroslavia » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:47 am

Let's keep the discussion in line with the rules please. This is your only warning. No sex talk/discussion.
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Postby The Great Imperator Jeffrey » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:48 am

The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
The Great Imperator Jeffrey wrote:And then after xeno extermination is complete, I will turn on Earth and force them to crown me as Emperor of the Human Race. Then, I will use my planet destroying weapon to take over the galaxy.


Exterminating the Xenos seems like a senseless waste; as mentioned previously, It'd be better to conquer the Xenos in order to properly civilize them.

I like how you think.
But I think that instead, we should enslave them to put them to good use.
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Postby The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:48 am

Xadufell wrote:
The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
Exterminating the Xenos seems like a senseless waste; as mentioned previously, It'd be better to conquer the Xenos in order to properly civilize them.


Who are you, the Tau?


No, but they make several strong points with regard to the proper treatment of subjugated client species immediately following planetary conquest.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:48 am

The Great Imperator Jeffrey wrote:
The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
Exterminating the Xenos seems like a senseless waste; as mentioned previously, It'd be better to conquer the Xenos in order to properly civilize them.

I like how you think.
But I think that instead, we should enslave them to put them to good use.

Slavery is wrong under any circumstances

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Postby The Great Imperator Jeffrey » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:50 am

San Lumen wrote:
The Great Imperator Jeffrey wrote:I like how you think.
But I think that instead, we should enslave them to put them to good use.

Slavery is wrong under any circumstances

Slavery is only wrong when you enslave humans. It is perfectly fine to enslave xenos.
The Imperium is ruled by God-Imperator Jeffrey the Conqueror of Universes, Rightful Ruler of All, and Supreme Leader for All Eternity. The God-Imperator has control over a significant portion of the multiverse. Everyone is oppressed.
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Postby Big Jim P » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:50 am

San Lumen wrote:
The Great Imperator Jeffrey wrote:I like how you think.
But I think that instead, we should enslave them to put them to good use.

Slavery is wrong under any circumstances


:rofl: Aren't you arguing for the majority to enslave the minority to its will in the midterm thread?
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:51 am

The Great Imperator Jeffrey wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Slavery is wrong under any circumstances

Slavery is only wrong when you enslave humans. It is perfectly fine to enslave xenos.

I disagree

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Postby Estanglia » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:53 am

No, because there could be a species, allied with the one we genocided, outside the galaxy with a galaxy-destroying weapon. They could annihilate us in a heartbeat for eliminating one of their allies. The universal community (if there is one) could've also already punished those who have carried out the attack, and so our attack would be seen as unjustified vengeance. Also we know nothing about them, so there could've been a regime change post-attack or all the aliens involved with the attack have passed away, and judging from the fact that, in the 331 years between the first attack and when we have the death star ready and in place, they didn't finish us off, they don't seem to be genocidal.

Basically, no because there is too much we don't know and an attack could cause our demise and would kill innocents (with potentially no guilty aliens killed for the above reasons) if it isn't a hive mind species.
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Postby Big Jim P » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:53 am

San Lumen wrote:
The Great Imperator Jeffrey wrote:Slavery is only wrong when you enslave humans. It is perfectly fine to enslave xenos.

I disagree


So do I. Enslaving humans is a perfectly useful tool to use for punishing criminal. Hell, we're halfway there already.
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Postby Hatterleigh » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:53 am

Probably, even if it's not the right thing to do
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:54 am

Estanglia wrote:No, because there could be a species, allied with the one we genocided, outside the galaxy with a galaxy-destroying weapon. They could annihilate us in a heartbeat for eliminating one of their allies. The universal community (if there is one) could've also already punished those who have carried out the attack, and so our attack would be seen as unjustified vengeance. Also we know nothing about them, so there could've been a regime change post-attack or all the aliens involved with the attack have passed away, and judging from the fact that, in the 331 years between the first attack and when we have the death star ready and in place, they didn't finish us off, they don't seem to be genocidal.

Basically, no because there is too much we don't know and an attack could cause our demise and would kill innocents (with potentially no guilty aliens killed for the above reasons) if it isn't a hive mind species.

Maybe they should've phoned us to let us know then.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:54 am

Estanglia wrote:No, because there could be a species, allied with the one we genocided, outside the galaxy with a galaxy-destroying weapon. They could annihilate us in a heartbeat for eliminating one of their allies. The universal community (if there is one) could've also already punished those who have carried out the attack, and so our attack would be seen as unjustified vengeance. Also we know nothing about them, so there could've been a regime change post-attack or all the aliens involved with the attack have passed away, and judging from the fact that, in the 331 years between the first attack and when we have the death star ready and in place, they didn't finish us off, they don't seem to be genocidal.

Basically, no because there is too much we don't know and an attack could cause our demise and would kill innocents (with potentially no guilty aliens killed for the above reasons) if it isn't a hive mind species.


This. The Intergalactic Council of Ministers would almost certainly not approve.

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Postby The Great Imperator Jeffrey » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:54 am

Hatterleigh wrote:Probably, even if it's not the right thing to do

Of course it is the right thing to do.
Xenos deserve extermination.
I might decide to show a few of them some mercy and enslave them.
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Postby Uxupox » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:55 am

San Lumen wrote:
Estanglia wrote:No, because there could be a species, allied with the one we genocided, outside the galaxy with a galaxy-destroying weapon. They could annihilate us in a heartbeat for eliminating one of their allies. The universal community (if there is one) could've also already punished those who have carried out the attack, and so our attack would be seen as unjustified vengeance. Also we know nothing about them, so there could've been a regime change post-attack or all the aliens involved with the attack have passed away, and judging from the fact that, in the 331 years between the first attack and when we have the death star ready and in place, they didn't finish us off, they don't seem to be genocidal.

Basically, no because there is too much we don't know and an attack could cause our demise and would kill innocents (with potentially no guilty aliens killed for the above reasons) if it isn't a hive mind species.


This. The Intergalactic Council of Ministers would almost certainly not approve.


obviously not they are the ones behind the plot to destroy the Earth after all.
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Postby Estanglia » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:57 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Estanglia wrote:No, because there could be a species, allied with the one we genocided, outside the galaxy with a galaxy-destroying weapon. They could annihilate us in a heartbeat for eliminating one of their allies. The universal community (if there is one) could've also already punished those who have carried out the attack, and so our attack would be seen as unjustified vengeance. Also we know nothing about them, so there could've been a regime change post-attack or all the aliens involved with the attack have passed away, and judging from the fact that, in the 331 years between the first attack and when we have the death star ready and in place, they didn't finish us off, they don't seem to be genocidal.

Basically, no because there is too much we don't know and an attack could cause our demise and would kill innocents (with potentially no guilty aliens killed for the above reasons) if it isn't a hive mind species.

Maybe they should've phoned us to let us know then.

They could've tried apologising, explaining their actions and offering compensation, but we might not have been advanced enough, or understand their language/mode of communication (after all, we know pretty much nothing about them) to understand it.
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Postby The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:57 am

The Great Imperator Jeffrey wrote:
The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
Exterminating the Xenos seems like a senseless waste; as mentioned previously, It'd be better to conquer the Xenos in order to properly civilize them.

I like how you think.
But I think that instead, we should enslave them to put them to good use.


Don't get too zealous with this; the usage of forced labor on conquered Xeno populations should only be utilized as a punishment for criminal offenses, and even then Xeno laborers shouldn't be mere chattel passed around from owner to owner, but should be used by the Planetary Provisional Government to fufill the public good. Also, as the Xenos adopt our values, the usage of forced labor should be phased out until non-existent. After all, we may be the rightful masters of these Xenos by the sacred right of conquest, but we must serve to benevolently enlighten them to the proper way of life: the human way of life.
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Postby The Great Imperator Jeffrey » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:58 am

San Lumen wrote:
The Great Imperator Jeffrey wrote:Slavery is only wrong when you enslave humans. It is perfectly fine to enslave xenos.

I disagree

I will be showing mercy by enslaving them. The alternative is extermination.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:59 am

Estanglia wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Maybe they should've phoned us to let us know then.

They could've tried apologising, explaining their actions and offering compensation, but we might not have been advanced enough, or understand their language/mode of communication (after all, we know pretty much nothing about them) to understand it.

They had three hundred years to figure it out.
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Postby Uxupox » Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:00 am

Estanglia wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Maybe they should've phoned us to let us know then.

They could've tried apologising, explaining their actions and offering compensation, but we might not have been advanced enough, or understand their language/mode of communication (after all, we know pretty much nothing about them) to understand it.


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Postby The Great Imperator Jeffrey » Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:00 am

The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
The Great Imperator Jeffrey wrote:I like how you think.
But I think that instead, we should enslave them to put them to good use.


Don't get too zealous with this; the usage of forced labor on conquered Xeno populations should only be utilized as a punishment for criminal offenses, and even then Xeno laborers shouldn't be mere chattel passed around from owner to owner, but should be used by the Planetary Provisional Government to fufill the public good. Also, as the Xenos adopt our values, the usage of forced labor should be phased out until non-existent. After all, we may be the rightful masters of these Xenos by the sacred right of conquest, but we must serve to benevolently enlighten them to the proper way of life: the human way of life.

Xenos will never truly be enlightened to our way of life. The only way to control them is through slavery or extermination.
The Imperium is ruled by God-Imperator Jeffrey the Conqueror of Universes, Rightful Ruler of All, and Supreme Leader for All Eternity. The God-Imperator has control over a significant portion of the multiverse. Everyone is oppressed.
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(Tier: 14 Type: 14)

Technology Level: FFT
Alignment: Lawful Evil
NS stats are a conspiracy against me.

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