Muslim sues for "discrimination" for not accommodating her.

[Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft]

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I’m glad you understand women need jobs

Nah they need to GTFO of the workplace and stop depressing men's wages.
If we kicked women out of the workplace, even illegal Mexican workers' wages would go up. I don't see much wrong with making America an even bigger land of opportunity than it already is, idk about you.

1. This is 2018, most of us (seems that doesn't include you) understand that having a dick does not make you a better worker than someone else with a vagina.
2. If you kicked women out of the workplace, their wages would go down to zero and cancel out gains for male workers.

[Vassenor]

This is the same ability to reason that lead you to worship Allah at the behest of Mohammed?

Yeah, is there a problem with that buddy?

I’m glad you understand women need jobs

Nah they need to GTFO of the workplace and stop depressing men's wages.
If we kicked women out of the workplace, even illegal Mexican workers' wages would go up. I don't see much wrong with making America an even bigger land of opportunity than it already is, idk about you.

By denying said opportunity to half the population?

[Nocturnalis]

Religious beliefs trump gender equality, it seems.

Neat.

[Vassenor]

Religious beliefs trump gender equality, it seems.

Neat.

Not sure how you got that from this case.

[The Cosmic Frankish Empire]

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Nah they need to GTFO of the workplace and stop depressing men's wages.
If we kicked women out of the workplace, even illegal Mexican workers' wages would go up. I don't see much wrong with making America an even bigger land of opportunity than it already is, idk about you.

1. This is 2018, most of us (seems that doesn't include you) understand that having a dick does not make you a better worker than someone else with a vagina.
2. If you kicked women out of the workplace, their wages would go down to zero and cancel out gains for male workers.

bro you literally have a creeper as a flag hahahahahahaha, this is debate in 2018

men are women's beta providers anyway and would continue to be if women left the workforce, when women can get an income (usually for doing jobs even the disabled could do, like working at target or smth) + have the welfare state behind them + have social norms behind them women get an unfair advantage as well as getting free shit from men. They can do pretty much anything shitty without consequences, it needs to be made so that they can't have their cake and eat it too. pretty reasonable.

By denying said opportunity to half the population?

Nah, they still get opportunity by being the gatekeepers of reproduction for those who are toiling and labouring. being able to decide the genetic constitution of the next generation bit by bit is a huge opportunity and women should feel honoured to have it.

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1. This is 2018, most of us (seems that doesn't include you) understand that having a dick does not make you a better worker than someone else with a vagina.
2. If you kicked women out of the workplace, their wages would go down to zero and cancel out gains for male workers.

bro you literally have a creeper as a flag hahahahahahaha, this is debate in 2018

men are women's beta providers anyway and would continue to be if women left the workforce, when women can get an income (usually for doing jobs even the disabled could do, like working at target or smth) + have the welfare state behind them + have social norms behind them women get an unfair advantage as well as getting free shit from men. They can do pretty much anything shitty without consequences, it needs to be made so that they can't have their cake and eat it too. pretty reasonable.

By denying said opportunity to half the population?

Nah, they still get opportunity by being the gatekeepers of reproduction for those who are toiling and labouring. being able to decide the genetic constitution of the next generation bit by bit is a huge opportunity and women should feel honoured to have it.

So by being "the gatekeepers of reproduction", does that imply women have a choice in whether to have children or not?

[The Cosmic Frankish Empire]

bro you literally have a creeper as a flag hahahahahahaha, this is debate in 2018

men are women's beta providers anyway and would continue to be if women left the workforce, when women can get an income (usually for doing jobs even the disabled could do, like working at target or smth) + have the welfare state behind them + have social norms behind them women get an unfair advantage as well as getting free shit from men. They can do pretty much anything shitty without consequences, it needs to be made so that they can't have their cake and eat it too. pretty reasonable.


Nah, they still get opportunity by being the gatekeepers of reproduction for those who are toiling and labouring. being able to decide the genetic constitution of the next generation bit by bit is a huge opportunity and women should feel honoured to have it.

So by being "the gatekeepers of reproduction", does that imply women have a choice in whether to have children or not?

No, they're just the gatekeepers of the process

[The Huskar Social Union]

bro you literally have a creeper as a flag hahahahahahaha, this is debate in 2018

men are women's beta providers anyway and would continue to be if women left the workforce, when women can get an income (usually for doing jobs even the disabled could do, like working at target or smth) + have the welfare state behind them + have social norms behind them women get an unfair advantage as well as getting free shit from men. They can do pretty much anything shitty without consequences, it needs to be made so that they can't have their cake and eat it too. pretty reasonable.


Nah, they still get opportunity by being the gatekeepers of reproduction for those who are toiling and labouring. being able to decide the genetic constitution of the next generation bit by bit is a huge opportunity and women should feel honoured to have it.

So by being "the gatekeepers of reproduction", does that imply women have a choice in whether to have children or not?

Going to go out on a limb and say probably not.

[Vassenor]

bro you literally have a creeper as a flag hahahahahahaha, this is debate in 2018

men are women's beta providers anyway and would continue to be if women left the workforce, when women can get an income (usually for doing jobs even the disabled could do, like working at target or smth) + have the welfare state behind them + have social norms behind them women get an unfair advantage as well as getting free shit from men. They can do pretty much anything shitty without consequences, it needs to be made so that they can't have their cake and eat it too. pretty reasonable.


Nah, they still get opportunity by being the gatekeepers of reproduction for those who are toiling and labouring. being able to decide the genetic constitution of the next generation bit by bit is a huge opportunity and women should feel honoured to have it.

So by being "the gatekeepers of reproduction", does that imply women have a choice in whether to have children or not?

For fuck's sake, The Handmaid's Tale was not supposed to be an instruction manual.

[The Cosmic Frankish Empire]

So by being "the gatekeepers of reproduction", does that imply women have a choice in whether to have children or not?

For fuck's sake, The Handmaid's Tale was not supposed to be an instruction manual.

I've never read the book but I read the synopsis on wikipedia and I unironically don't see the problem with what they were doing. It was pretty shitty, sure, but people were getting sterilised by pollution and disease so if you wanna be fruitful and multiply you've gotta do what you've gotta do. the alternative is extinction. Seems to me like the whole book is about a woman complaining her roast beef flaps are being used for what they're supposed to be used for and that she's not an empowered womyn who can go fuck chad and tyrone at the click of a button

[Internationalist Bastard]

For fuck's sake, The Handmaid's Tale was not supposed to be an instruction manual.

I've never read the book but I read the synopsis on wikipedia and I unironically don't see the problem with what they were doing. It was pretty shitty, sure, but people were getting sterilised by pollution and disease so if you wanna be fruitful and multiply you've gotta do what you've gotta do. the alternative is extinction. Seems to me like the whole book is about a woman complaining her roast beef flaps are being used for what they're supposed to be used for and that she's not an empowered womyn who can go fuck chad and tyrone at the click of a button

Yes how dare woman not want to be raped

[The Huskar Social Union]

This is fucking retarded.

[Nocturnalis]

Religious beliefs trump gender equality, it seems.
Neat.

Not sure how you got that from this case.

Not sure how you could not get that from this case. Refusing to shake someone's hand because they're a man is a slight against the presumed equality of the genders. One would expect a prospective interpreter to be more in-tune with the cultural expectations of other societies, to say nothing of the society that they live in.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Not sure how you got that from this case.

Not sure how you could not get that from this case. Refusing to shake someone's hand because they're a man is a slight against the presumed equality of the genders. One would expect a prospective interpreter to be more in-tune with the cultural expectations of other societies, to say nothing of the society that they live in.

It’s a handshake, that she replaced with an appropriate greeting, it’s such a small thing I’m shocked the interviewer cared

[Vassenor]

Not sure how you got that from this case.

Not sure how you could not get that from this case. Refusing to shake someone's hand because they're a man is a slight against the presumed equality of the genders. One would expect a prospective interpreter to be more in-tune with the cultural expectations of other societies, to say nothing of the society that they live in.

‘I believe in God, which is very rare in Sweden…and I should be able to do that and be accepted as long as I’m not hurting anyone.’

‘In my country, you cannot treat women and men differently.

‘I respect that. That’s why I don’t have any physical contact with men or with women.’

Tell me more about how this was because he was a man.

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I've never read the book but I read the synopsis on wikipedia and I unironically don't see the problem with what they were doing. It was pretty shitty, sure, but people were getting sterilised by pollution and disease so if you wanna be fruitful and multiply you've gotta do what you've gotta do. the alternative is extinction. Seems to me like the whole book is about a woman complaining her roast beef flaps are being used for what they're supposed to be used for and that she's not an empowered womyn who can go fuck chad and tyrone at the click of a button

Yes how dare woman not want to be raped

It's not rape when you're married to a man who you were forced to marry by your family who might have killed you if you didn't.

(yes, sarcasm, obviously)

[The South Falls]

living it to the fullest

lmao this sheer amount of cope

imagine convincing yourself that bragging about eating tea in your sig on a max barry fan forum makes up for roasting underground eternally

Eh, I thought you weren't supposed to judge others, lest you be judged yourself. Oh, and anyway, goddamn you read my sig?

[Galloism]

This is fucking retarded.

What this guy said, except more expressively.

(If we’re talking about the handmaid thing)

[The Huskar Social Union]

This is fucking retarded.

What this guy said, except more expressively.

Well i was more referring to the "discussion" over the last few pages about women and working.

But yeah the OP topic is a bit naff

[Galloism]

What this guy said, except more expressively.

Well i was more referring to the "discussion" over the last few pages about women and working.

But yeah the OP topic is a bit naff

No I was talking about the handmaid tale “nobody did nothing wrong” discussion.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Well i was more referring to the "discussion" over the last few pages about women and working.

But yeah the OP topic is a bit naff

No I was talking about the handmaid tale “nobody did nothing wrong” discussion.

ohhhhhhhhhh

Then yeah that too, that was part of what i was referring to.

[Ostroeuropa]

I've never read the book but I read the synopsis on wikipedia and I unironically don't see the problem with what they were doing. It was pretty shitty, sure, but people were getting sterilised by pollution and disease so if you wanna be fruitful and multiply you've gotta do what you've gotta do. the alternative is extinction. Seems to me like the whole book is about a woman complaining her roast beef flaps are being used for what they're supposed to be used for and that she's not an empowered womyn who can go fuck chad and tyrone at the click of a button

Yes how dare woman not want to be raped

Being raped isn't strictly necessary if we're going to entertain the core of his argument, which i'm prepared to.
In the event of environmental catastrophe and extinction and so on, conscripting women for the survival of the nation seems as permissible as conscripting men, it is merely that the form of conscription differs in that it is forced pregnancy under artificial insemination.

This view is also important to casting many of the examples for claims women were historically oppressed into their proper light. Women were conscripted and not in control over their bodies for national and tribal interest, same as men were at the time. It's just that their bodies were more useful to the collective in a different way than mens were.

The manner this was implemented was through arranged familial bonds and so on, but it's important to note that they did not have technological alternatives. A modern incarnation of the practice would probably be state run, far more clinical and detached, not involve sex, and not seeking to create families, but to maximize reproduction rates.

This view of the situation reveals that modern US men actually experience to struggles of the handsmaids tale, but US women don't, especially when you consider that some men are literally raped and forced to parent the children resulting from it by our system, which forms a more direct comparison.

[The Cosmic Frankish Empire]

Yes how dare woman not want to be raped

Being raped isn't strictly necessary if we're going to entertain the core of his argument, which i'm prepared to.
In the event of environmental catastrophe and extinction and so on, conscripting women for the survival of the nation seems as permissible as conscripting men, it is merely that the form of conscription differs in that it is forced pregnancy under artificial insemination.

This view is also important to casting many of the examples for claims women were historically oppressed into their proper light. Women were conscripted and not in control over their bodies for national and tribal interest, same as men were at the time. It's just that their bodies were more useful to the collective in a different way than mens were.

The manner this was implemented was through arranged familial bonds and so on, but it's important to note that they did not have technological alternatives. A modern incarnation of the practice would probably be state run, far more clinical and detached, not involve sex, and not seeking to create families, but to maximize reproduction rates.

This view of the situation reveals that modern US men actually experience to struggles of the handsmaids tale, but US women don't, especially when you consider that some men are literally raped and forced to parent the children resulting from it by our system, which forms a more direct comparison.

Bro you had to edit this 7 times in an attempt to make it look palatable to a bunch of redditors.
Let me rephrase this whole line of thought in one sentence:

"the needs of the group and the survival of the group come before the wants and desires of the individual"

simple, you can agree with it or disagree with it, you are however descended from groups of people that agreed with it and thus managed to pass on their genes and make you.

[Liriena]

to me like the whole book is about a woman complaining her roast beef flaps

/r/badwomensanatomy

[Vassenor]

Yes how dare woman not want to be raped

Being raped isn't strictly necessary if we're going to entertain the core of his argument, which i'm prepared to.
In the event of environmental catastrophe and extinction and so on, conscripting women for the survival of the nation seems as permissible as conscripting men, it is merely that the form of conscription differs in that it is forced pregnancy under artificial insemination.

This view is also important to casting many of the examples for claims women were historically oppressed into their proper light. Women were conscripted and not in control over their bodies for national and tribal interest, same as men were at the time. It's just that their bodies were more useful to the collective in a different way than mens were.

The manner this was implemented was through arranged familial bonds and so on, but it's important to note that they did not have technological alternatives. A modern incarnation of the practice would probably be state run, far more clinical and detached, not involve sex, and not seeking to create families, but to maximize reproduction rates.

This view of the situation reveals that modern US men actually experience to struggles of the handsmaids tale, but US women don't, especially when you consider that some men are literally raped and forced to parent the children resulting from it by our system, which forms a more direct comparison.

So I take it you can provide examples of that "men are literally raped and forced to parent the children resulting from it" then.