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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:06 pm

Mardla wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:She is not employed by the company . She is not collecting a salary she may be entitled too based on the companies illegal activity taken against her. She is entitled to money damages for the time between her getting tossed from the interview, till the settlement of the lawsuit.

Why is she entitled to a salary, whereas other applicants are not?

Because she was denied the oppertunity to compete for the Job because of the companies illegal activity against her.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:08 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Mardla wrote:He is the owner's commisar

>Looks up<
Still don't get it. What does commissar mean?

The proper term would have been officer of the company. Someone who is entitled to act on the companies behalf in a legally binding fashion.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:17 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:>Looks up<
Still don't get it. What does commissar mean?

The proper term would have been officer of the company. Someone who is entitled to act on the companies behalf in a legally binding fashion.

Thx.
Which brings up other questions, Mardla:
1: Who's fit to discriminate against someone based on religious beliefs?
2: Are you ok with discrimination based on how people practice their religion, or discrimination for the simple fact that they adhere to a religion?
3: Do you support discrimination on religious grounds only, or does this discrimination support go on other baseses too?
4: Does this discrimination apply for all religious groups, or only certain ones?
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Postby Trumptonium1 » Wed Aug 22, 2018 2:28 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
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What proof do you have that she would get the position above all the other candidates were she only to follow the normal procedure of civilised behaviour?

Absolutely none.

Doesn't matter, she was not given a fair oppertunity to compete for the Job.

I would have a lot more sympathy for the company if the denied that accomdation to everyone, but they don't. This is just the same as saying no rightous niggers need apply.


And when did the company announce they denied that to everyone, rather than purely to her on grounds of her religion?

Is there any accusation that the company is alright with non-Muslims not shaking hands?
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Postby Galloism » Wed Aug 22, 2018 2:30 pm

Trumptonium1 wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Absolutely none.

Doesn't matter, she was not given a fair oppertunity to compete for the Job.

I would have a lot more sympathy for the company if the denied that accomdation to everyone, but they don't. This is just the same as saying no rightous niggers need apply.


And when did the company announce they denied that to everyone, rather than purely to her on grounds of her religion?

Is there any accusation that the company is alright with non-Muslims not shaking hands?


Gravlen wrote:
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:https://metro.co.uk/2018/08/16/muslim-woman-rejected-from-job-for-not-shaking-mans-hand-is-awarded-3000-7849508/

TL;DR: Muslim woman refuses to shake job interviewer's hand. Cites religious faith. Claims discrimination when not given the job.

If you're going to do a TL;DR, you should do it accurately.

TL;DR: Muslim woman refuses to shake job interviewer's hand. Cites religious faith. Isn't allowed to finish the interview, and is told that she won't get the job. Interviewer says it would have been OK if she had refused to shake hands because of a fear of germs or due to autism, but not for religious reasons. Claims discrimination when not given the job.

The verdict is found here.
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Postby Liriena » Wed Aug 22, 2018 2:33 pm

Galloism wrote:
Trumptonium1 wrote:
And when did the company announce they denied that to everyone, rather than purely to her on grounds of her religion?

Is there any accusation that the company is alright with non-Muslims not shaking hands?


Gravlen wrote:If you're going to do a TL;DR, you should do it accurately.

TL;DR: Muslim woman refuses to shake job interviewer's hand. Cites religious faith. Isn't allowed to finish the interview, and is told that she won't get the job. Interviewer says it would have been OK if she had refused to shake hands because of a fear of germs or due to autism, but not for religious reasons. Claims discrimination when not given the job.

The verdict is found here.

In other words, it was religious discrimination.

Good job to that incredibly stupid interviewer.
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Postby Trumptonium1 » Wed Aug 22, 2018 2:45 pm

Galloism wrote:
Trumptonium1 wrote:
And when did the company announce they denied that to everyone, rather than purely to her on grounds of her religion?

Is there any accusation that the company is alright with non-Muslims not shaking hands?


Gravlen wrote:If you're going to do a TL;DR, you should do it accurately.

TL;DR: Muslim woman refuses to shake job interviewer's hand. Cites religious faith. Isn't allowed to finish the interview, and is told that she won't get the job. Interviewer says it would have been OK if she had refused to shake hands because of a fear of germs or due to autism, but not for religious reasons. Claims discrimination when not given the job.

The verdict is found here.


So that confirms the employer would expect a normal person to shake the interviewer's hand.
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Postby Galloism » Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:40 pm

Trumptonium1 wrote:
Galloism wrote:


So that confirms the employer would expect a normal person to shake the interviewer's hand.

Lots of normal people fear germs.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:04 pm

Trumptonium1 wrote:
Galloism wrote:


So that confirms the employer would expect a normal person to shake the interviewer's hand.


More importantly it confirms that they offered the accomodation to others for medical reasons, and not to her for religious ones.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:19 pm

Trumptonium1 wrote:
Galloism wrote:


So that confirms the employer would expect a normal person to shake the interviewer's hand.

She's just as normal as you and I.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Aug 22, 2018 5:01 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Trumptonium1 wrote:
So that confirms the employer would expect a normal person to shake the interviewer's hand.

She's just as normal as you and I.

Nah, not shaking hands because it will encourage lust in the opposite sex, is just as much mental illness as not shaking hands because "the germs".
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Postby Mardla » Wed Aug 22, 2018 5:20 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Mardla wrote:Why is she entitled to a salary, whereas other applicants are not?

Because she was denied the oppertunity to compete for the Job because of the companies illegal activity against her.

No more than anyone else denied.
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Postby Mardla » Wed Aug 22, 2018 5:22 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:The proper term would have been officer of the company. Someone who is entitled to act on the companies behalf in a legally binding fashion.

Thx.
Which brings up other questions, Mardla:
1: Who's fit to discriminate against someone based on religious beliefs?
2: Are you ok with discrimination based on how people practice their religion, or discrimination for the simple fact that they adhere to a religion?
3: Do you support discrimination on religious grounds only, or does this discrimination support go on other baseses too?
4: Does this discrimination apply for all religious groups, or only certain ones?

I don't see why religious discrimination should not be allowed for just about everything. If you disliked Muslims, you should not have to hire them.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Wed Aug 22, 2018 5:45 pm

Mardla wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Thx.
Which brings up other questions, Mardla:
1: Who's fit to discriminate against someone based on religious beliefs?
2: Are you ok with discrimination based on how people practice their religion, or discrimination for the simple fact that they adhere to a religion?
3: Do you support discrimination on religious grounds only, or does this discrimination support go on other baseses too?
4: Does this discrimination apply for all religious groups, or only certain ones?

I don't see why religious discrimination should not be allowed for just about everything. If you disliked Muslims, you should not have to hire them.

You still have question #3 to answer.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Aug 22, 2018 5:46 pm

Mardla wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Because she was denied the oppertunity to compete for the Job because of the companies illegal activity against her.

No more than anyone else denied.

Maybe in your fantasy land, most civilized nations feel otherwise.
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Postby Mardla » Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:58 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Mardla wrote:I don't see why religious discrimination should not be allowed for just about everything. If you disliked Muslims, you should not have to hire them.

You still have question #3 to answer.

I think discrimination based on race, sex, perversion, etc should all be legal.
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Postby Mardla » Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:59 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Mardla wrote:No more than anyone else denied.

Maybe in your fantasy land, most civilized nations feel otherwise.

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Postby Vassenor » Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:06 am

Mardla wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Because she was denied the oppertunity to compete for the Job because of the companies illegal activity against her.

No more than anyone else denied.


So who else was kicked out of the interview before it could even begin because of their religion?

Consistently ignoring the facts of the case just to make her look like a salty gold digger is not doing you many favours.
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Postby Trumptonium1 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:23 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Trumptonium1 wrote:
So that confirms the employer would expect a normal person to shake the interviewer's hand.


More importantly it confirms that they offered the accomodation to others for medical reasons, and not to her for religious ones.



Religious reasons are not reasons. This is the civilised world.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Aug 23, 2018 4:02 am

Trumptonium1 wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
More importantly it confirms that they offered the accomodation to others for medical reasons, and not to her for religious ones.



Religious reasons are not reasons. This is the civilised world.

1. I maintain that being unwilling to shake hands is a mental health issue.

That said then, you are ok with discrimination based on religion is OK, so no hiring sand niggers for you. Got it,
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Postby Trumptonium1 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 4:16 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Trumptonium1 wrote:

Religious reasons are not reasons. This is the civilised world.

1. I maintain that being unwilling to shake hands is a mental health issue.

That said then, you are ok with discrimination based on religion is OK, so no hiring sand niggers for you. Got it,


If they refuse to engage in civilised behaviour, yes, I am totally fine with that.
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Postby Mardla » Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:22 am

Vassenor wrote:
Mardla wrote:No more than anyone else denied.


So who else was kicked out of the interview before it could even begin because of their religion?

Consistently ignoring the facts of the case just to make her look like a salty gold digger is not doing you many favours.

Perfectly reasonable if you don't want to hire people of her religion.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:31 am

Mardla wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So who else was kicked out of the interview before it could even begin because of their religion?

Consistently ignoring the facts of the case just to make her look like a salty gold digger is not doing you many favours.

Perfectly reasonable if you don't want to hire people of her religion.


The law says otherwise.
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Postby Mardla » Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:32 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Trumptonium1 wrote:

Religious reasons are not reasons. This is the civilised world.

1. I maintain that being unwilling to shake hands is a mental health issue.

That said then, you are ok with discrimination based on religion is OK, so no hiring sand niggers for you. Got it,

Gooby, plz. You yourself supported such discrimination being legal in recent memory as a self-described old-school conservative, a Goldwater type. "Oh but think of the merchants!" Now you are saying, "How dare you not accommodate people who are at complete odds with every fiber of your culture and way of life, how racist! You must accept their demands. Heh, heh. Good boy!"

It seems as if there is nothing consistent about you. Well, apart from being Jewish.
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Postby Mardla » Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:33 am

Vassenor wrote:
Mardla wrote:Perfectly reasonable if you don't want to hire people of her religion.


The law says otherwise.

The law is unjust.
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