Muslim sues for "discrimination" for not accommodating her.

[Camicon]

He incorrectly concluded she wouldn't shake his hand because he was a man.

Nope. I've literally gone over this specifically with you.
Her statement makes it entirely clear.

No, what she told the interviewer does not indicate why she would not shake his hand. That is information the interviewer did not have when he told her to leave, and which we gained at a later date.

She does not shake hands with men because of her religion. She does not shake hands with women because she wants to treat everyone equally.
She won't shake his hand because he is a man, she wouldn't shake a womans hand either because she wants to treat people equally.

Those are her motivations.

"Stay on target... stay on target..."

In truth, Farah wouldn't shake his hand because she doesn't shake the hands of anyone, man or woman. She doesn't shake the hands of anyone because she believes her religion proscribes physical contact between individuals of the opposite sex that are not married to each other, and she doesn't want to act in a manner that would appear to be discriminatory.

The AND there is precisely the point. She has different motivations for why she won't shake a mans hand why she wont shake a womans hand. One is based in sexism.

"It's a hit!"

"Negative. It didn't go in. It just impacted the surface"

As I have gone over multiple times, her reason for not shaking mens hands is rooted in prudishness, not sexism.

However, whether or not she referenced or alluded to her egalitarian greeting mannerisms is irrelevant, because it doesn't change the fact that she was discriminated against.

That fact is precisely what we're disputing.

No, that isn't in dispute. The case has already been settled. Do try to keep up.

Even if she told me that she greeted men and women differently, and I thought that would be a violation of the anti-discrimination policies, I would simply inform her that (if hired) the company might require her to use a single form of greeting for all clients. Problem solved, disaster averted, pack it up motherfuckers I just saved the goddamn world! And I wasn't an asshole about it!

It's not being an asshole to conclude someone is not worth your time on the basis of them signalling sexist attitudes. He simply declined to have as high a standard of evidence as you or I would require before writing someone off.

Throwing someone out of an interview because of assumption you have made of them, and with no attempts to discover whether or not your assumptions are actually true, is absolutely being an asshole.

Your victim blaming is completely ridiculous.

She isn't a victim. She communicated an idea. He received and understood that communication. He decided from that evidence to dismiss her.

The court says you're wrong.

And where's your outrage about Mike Pence's more overtly prudish beliefs and behaviour?

He shouldn't do what he's doing and i've said as much before. Where's the thread on it? I can show you my outrage

No, you fucking haven't. I know because I searched your posts.

[Liriena]

Regardless of her particular reason for refusing to shake hands, I do think she's in the right. Unless the position was one that explicitly, necessarily required her to shake hands on a regular basis, refusing her a job for not shaking hands with her interviewer seems extremely petty.

Yes, shaking hands is widely considered good manners in many parts of the world, but at the end of the day it's a custom, not a natural necessity or a qualification in and of itself.

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

Nope. I've literally gone over this specifically with you.
Her statement makes it entirely clear.

No, what she told the interviewer does not indicate why she would not shake his hand. That is information the interviewer did not have when he told her to leave, and which we gained at a later date.

And again, my question to you is, how does having misinterpreted her reason for not shaking his hand make his response discriminatory?

[Cedoria]

https://metro.co.uk/2018/08/16/muslim-woman-rejected-from-job-for-not-shaking-mans-hand-is-awarded-3000-7849508/

TL;DR: Muslim woman refuses to shake job interviewer's hand. Cites religious faith. Claims discrimination when not given the job.

If you're going to do a TL;DR, you should do it accurately.

TL;DR: Muslim woman refuses to shake job interviewer's hand. Cites religious faith. Isn't allowed to finish the interview, and is told that she won't get the job. Interviewer says it would have been OK if she had refused to shake hands because of a fear of germs or due to autism, but not for religious reasons. Claims discrimination when not given the job.

The verdict is found here.

Pretty messed up. Not a huge fan of religion myself, but for something that is as innocuous as this, there was no reason why she shouldn't be accomodated.

[Conserative Morality]

And again, my question to you is, how does having misinterpreted her reason for not shaking his hand make his response discriminatory?

You don't understand how misinterpreting someone's reasoning can be discriminatory?

Okay, how about this: a black man is walking down the street in a white neighborhood. He is doing so because he is taking his morning exercise along a new route. The inhabitants of the neighborhood, seeing that he is a black man, assume that he is actually scouting out the neighborhood to rob them, and they call the police.

Now, all they did was misinterpret someone's reasoning. How could that ever be discriminatory? /s

[Camicon]

No, what she told the interviewer does not indicate why she would not shake his hand. That is information the interviewer did not have when he told her to leave, and which we gained at a later date.

And again, my question to you is, how does having misinterpreted her reason for not shaking his hand make his response discriminatory?

Because his misinterpretation was based on her religion. He ended her interview and ordered her to leave, effectively refusing her the position, because she's Muslim. That's pretty cut-and-dry discrimination.

[The Cosmic Frankish Empire]

The Quran and the Prophet (pbuh) literally said that a woman's place is in the home. Instead of talking about discrimination we should be asking why Sweden is okay with maintaining its suffocating, for all-intents-and-purposes repressive economic structure which makes women working a de-facto economic necessity. This woman started crying in the elevator when she got told to leave the office - she's clearly a sweet, demure young woman that should be at home raising kids instead of wage-slaving for the Swedish corporate-government complex that imported her people en-masse so they could milk more of the almighty dollar out of them.

[The South Falls]

The Quran and the Prophet (pbuh) literally said that a woman's place is in the home. Instead of talking about discrimination we should be asking why Sweden is okay with maintaining its suffocating, for all-intents-and-purposes repressive economic structure which makes women working a de-facto economic necessity. This woman started crying in the elevator when she got told to leave the office - she's clearly a sweet, demure young woman that should be at home raising kids instead of wage-slaving for the Swedish corporate-government complex that imported her people en-masse so they could milk more of the almighty dollar out of them.

If she wants to work, she fucking can. Who the fuck are you to decide what this woman wants to do? If she wants to work, she can. If she doesn't, she doesn't have to.

[The Cosmic Frankish Empire]

The Quran and the Prophet (pbuh) literally said that a woman's place is in the home. Instead of talking about discrimination we should be asking why Sweden is okay with maintaining its suffocating, for all-intents-and-purposes repressive economic structure which makes women working a de-facto economic necessity. This woman started crying in the elevator when she got told to leave the office - she's clearly a sweet, demure young woman that should be at home raising kids instead of wage-slaving for the Swedish corporate-government complex that imported her people en-masse so they could milk more of the almighty dollar out of them.

If she wants to work, she fucking can. Who the fuck are you to decide what this woman wants to do? If she wants to work, she can. If she doesn't, she doesn't have to.

I'm not deciding anything buddy, I'm just going by what Allah (swt) and his prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said. Are you gonna tell me you're a better authority on anything than the creator of the universe himself and the Prophet (pbuh)?

[The South Falls]

If she wants to work, she fucking can. Who the fuck are you to decide what this woman wants to do? If she wants to work, she can. If she doesn't, she doesn't have to.

I'm not deciding anything buddy, I'm just going by what Allah (swt) and his prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said. Are you gonna tell me you're a better authority on anything than the creator of the universe himself and the Prophet (pbuh)?

I don't have to follow the Quran, just because you do. And that's only the creator to you. I don't follow those parts of the Quran. And no, nice try. But I say she can choose. She has free will, no?

[The Cosmic Frankish Empire]

I'm not deciding anything buddy, I'm just going by what Allah (swt) and his prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said. Are you gonna tell me you're a better authority on anything than the creator of the universe himself and the Prophet (pbuh)?

I don't have to follow the Quran, just because you do. And that's only the creator to you. I don't follow those parts of the Quran. And no, nice try. But I say she can choose. She has free will, no?

Bro you're literally going to Hell if you keep that up smh, try looking into Islam some time, you seem like an alright guy.

[Vassenor]

I don't have to follow the Quran, just because you do. And that's only the creator to you. I don't follow those parts of the Quran. And no, nice try. But I say she can choose. She has free will, no?

Bro you're literally going to Hell if you keep that up smh, try looking into Islam some time, you seem like an alright guy.

You mean like the bits of it that say you cannot compel the revelation upon a person?

[The South Falls]

I don't have to follow the Quran, just because you do. And that's only the creator to you. I don't follow those parts of the Quran. And no, nice try. But I say she can choose. She has free will, no?

Bro you're literally going to Hell if you keep that up smh, try looking into Islam some time, you seem like an alright guy.

tfw you're a catholic

Thank you, I guess but lemme not go to Catholic hell

[The Cosmic Frankish Empire]

Bro you're literally going to Hell if you keep that up smh, try looking into Islam some time, you seem like an alright guy.

You mean like the bits of it that say you cannot compel the revelation upon a person?

idk about that man the Taliban are doing a pretty good job in Pakistan.

[Vassenor]

You mean like the bits of it that say you cannot compel the revelation upon a person?

idk about that man the Taliban are doing a pretty good job in Pakistan.

Then they're going to hell for knowingly disrespecting the teachings they claim to follow. Next question.

[The Cosmic Frankish Empire]

idk about that man the Taliban are doing a pretty good job in Pakistan.

Then they're going to hell for knowingly disrespecting the teachings they claim to follow. Next question.

Why do you know so much about a religion that wants to throw you off buildings but chose to spend your time defending it on an irrelevant LARP forum?

[Vassenor]

Then they're going to hell for knowingly disrespecting the teachings they claim to follow. Next question.

Why do you know so much about a religion that wants to throw you off buildings but chose to spend your time defending it on an irrelevant LARP forum?

>You're X so you're not allowed to think Y

Everybody drink.

[Camicon]

Then they're going to hell for knowingly disrespecting the teachings they claim to follow. Next question.

Why do you know so much about a religion that wants to throw you off buildings but chose to spend your time defending it on an irrelevant LARP forum?

If one is to successfully argue against something then one must at least have a working knowledge of it.

But I think a more pertinent question might be, why are you here if you think NS is "an irrelevant LARP forum"?

Why do you know so much about a religion that wants to throw you off buildings but chose to spend your time defending it on an irrelevant LARP forum?

>You're X so you're not allowed to think Y

Everybody drink.

Fuck, it's too early in the morning to start drinking...

[The South Falls]

Why do you know so much about a religion that wants to throw you off buildings but chose to spend your time defending it on an irrelevant LARP forum?

>You're X so you're not allowed to think Y

Everybody drink.

I'm already half-dead of alcohol poisoning.

[The Cosmic Frankish Empire]

Why do you know so much about a religion that wants to throw you off buildings but chose to spend your time defending it on an irrelevant LARP forum?

>You're X so you're not allowed to think Y

Everybody drink.

It's not in your interests though bro, seems kinda counter-intuitive.
I wonder what your last thoughts would be if you died in a terrorist attack and the guy was shouting Allahu Ackbar before he blew your chest open.

[Vassenor]

>You're X so you're not allowed to think Y

Everybody drink.

It's not in your interests though bro, seems kinda counter-intuitive.
I wonder what your last thoughts would be if you died in a terrorist attack and the guy was shouting Allahu Ackbar before he blew your chest open.

Considering I am statistically more likely to be hit by lightning, I don't really need to think about that.

[The Cosmic Frankish Empire]

It's not in your interests though bro, seems kinda counter-intuitive.
I wonder what your last thoughts would be if you died in a terrorist attack and the guy was shouting Allahu Ackbar before he blew your chest open.

Considering I am statistically more likely to be hit by lightning, I don't really need to think about that.

Yeah I'm gonna concede to your point here, not thinking about things is probably the best way to go.

[The South Falls]

Considering I am statistically more likely to be hit by lightning, I don't really need to think about that.

Yeah I'm gonna concede to your point here, not thinking about things is probably the best way to go.

Not making my life a scared existence governed by all the problems of the world and living it to the fullest is great, thanks.

[Ifreann]

So someone gets told explicitly that she's not getting a job because of her religion, she sues for being discriminated against based on her religion, and she won.

Is...is this what it feels like for the world to make sense? Oh gods, it's been so long...

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The Quran and the Prophet (pbuh) literally said that a woman's place is in the home. Instead of talking about discrimination we should be asking why Sweden is okay with maintaining its suffocating, for all-intents-and-purposes repressive economic structure which makes women working a de-facto economic necessity. This woman started crying in the elevator when she got told to leave the office - she's clearly a sweet, demure young woman that should be at home raising kids instead of wage-slaving for the Swedish corporate-government complex that imported her people en-masse so they could milk more of the almighty dollar out of them.

The incel wants women at home raising kids, not getting jobs and being economically independent. And also you're a Muslim now?

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[The Cosmic Frankish Empire]

living it to the fullest

lmao this sheer amount of cope

imagine convincing yourself that bragging about eating tea in your sig on a max barry fan forum makes up for roasting underground eternally