Is James Bond a Republican?

[The Huskar Social Union]

Also you know the black people who have lived in Scotland their whole lives.

[Bombadil]

Does Casino Royale follow the script of the original book exactly?

No.

What is this demand for adherence to the original? Has no one heard of artistic license?

[Ifreann]

He wasn't Scottish in the books until -after- Connery was cast.

Before that he was a generic British man - of british heritage.

People of british heritage generally are white.

People of British heritage generally aren't spies.

[The Great-German Empire]

You can innovate without overinnovating, you know.

Because it's so outlandish for a black British man to be employed as a spy.

I'm not talking only about that. I for one don't like the blockbuster-style execution of Craig's films, either. I'd rather watch Thunderball with its nonexistent special effects but more sneaking. As for Black Brit Bond, as I said, it's just unnecessary. And I know that people like Richard started it, but now that it's a slapfight about diversity, I'm all for stonewalling it. Because fuck forced diversity.

[Bakery Hill]

Why is he supposed to be white?

because he's written as a Scotsman in Cold War Britain?

because he's supposed to be of scottish heritage, and surprise Scots ain't black.

Yeah he wasn't a Scotsman then suddenly he was and then he hasn't been for several decades so he can't be black that'd just make no sense to the canon.

Also can't help but notice that over that the guy in Quantum Solace looks sort of different to the guy in Goldfinger and I'm not entirely sure why. Having a different face, height, build etc. would surely break canon.

[Bakery Hill]

Before that he was a generic British man - of british heritage.

People of british heritage generally are white.

People of British heritage generally aren't spies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfidious_Albion

[Bombadil]

because he's written as a Scotsman in Cold War Britain?

because he's supposed to be of scottish heritage, and surprise Scots ain't black.

Yeah he wasn't a Scotsman the suddenly he was and then he hasn't been for several decades so he can't be black that'd just make no sense to the canon.

Also can't help but notice that over that the guy in Quantum Solace looks sort of different to the guy in Goldfinger and I'm not entirely sure why. Having a different face, height, build etc. would surely break canon.

Was the head of SPECTRE his estranged adoptive brother in the books.. no he wasn't.. agh.. *not canon*

[Bakery Hill]

Because it's so outlandish for a black British man to be employed as a spy.

I'm not talking only about that. I for one don't like the blockbuster-style execution of Craig's films, either. I'd rather watch Thunderball with its nonexistent special effects but more sneaking. As for Black Brit Bond, as I said, it's just unnecessary. And I know that people like Richard started it, but now that it's a slapfight about diversity, I'm all for stonewalling it. Because fuck forced diversity.

Elba's is a really good actor with the right presence and poise to play a Bond type character. I'd rather James Bond be abolished in the fires of the Cultural Revolution, but the bloke's just genuinely good if you've ever seen him on screen. His name has been on the cards for a long time.

[The New California Republic]

because he's written as a Scotsman in Cold War Britain?

because he's supposed to be of scottish heritage, and surprise Scots ain't black.

Yeah he wasn't a Scotsman the suddenly he was and then he hasn't been for several decades so he can't be black that'd just make no sense to the canon.

Also can't help but notice that over that the guy in Quantum Solace looks sort of different to the guy in Goldfinger and I'm not entirely sure why. Having a different face, height, build etc. would surely break canon.

I made that exact same argument earlier. People are screaming to high heaven about a black Bond breaking canon, yet they have selective blindness to the fact that Bond has had several complete face, body, and personality transplants over the decades...

[The Great-German Empire]

Like that time he raped a woman and somehow this convinced her to work with him. Lol, y u triggered, feminists?

Yes, exactly that. It's a 60s film and should be treated as such. Rape is a tragedy in real life, but in a movie about a womanizing spy? Hell, I laughed at that scene.

There's loads of black Scottish people.

I'm a black Scottish cyclops. They got more fecking sea monsters in the great ol' Loch Ness than they got the likes o'me.

[Bakery Hill]

Yeah he wasn't a Scotsman the suddenly he was and then he hasn't been for several decades so he can't be black that'd just make no sense to the canon.

Also can't help but notice that over that the guy in Quantum Solace looks sort of different to the guy in Goldfinger and I'm not entirely sure why. Having a different face, height, build etc. would surely break canon.

I made that exact same argument earlier. People are screaming to high heaven about a black Bond breaking canon, yet they have selective blindness to the fact that Bond has had several complete face, body, and personality transplants over the decades...

We can make a compromise. Elba has to put on a Scottish accent for the role.

[Bakery Hill]

Like that time he raped a woman and somehow this convinced her to work with him. Lol, y u triggered, feminists?

Yes, exactly that. It's a 60s film and should be treated as such. Rape is a tragedy in real life, but in a movie about a womanizing spy? Hell, I laughed at that scene.

Fuck you're odd man.

[Bombadil]

I made that exact same argument earlier. People are screaming to high heaven about a black Bond breaking canon, yet they have selective blindness to the fact that Bond has had several complete face, body, and personality transplants over the decades...

We can make a compromise. Elba has to put on a Scottish accent for the role.

Sick Boy: [Sean Connery accent] Do you shee the beasht? Have you got it in your shights?
Mark "Rent-boy" Renton: [aiming the pellet gun at a dog] Clear enough, Missh Moneypenny! This should preshent no shignificant problemsh!
[shoots the dog which starts attacking its owner]
Sick Boy: For a vegetarian, Rents, you're a fuckin' EVIL shot!

[The Great-German Empire]

I'm not talking only about that. I for one don't like the blockbuster-style execution of Craig's films, either. I'd rather watch Thunderball with its nonexistent special effects but more sneaking. As for Black Brit Bond, as I said, it's just unnecessary. And I know that people like Richard started it, but now that it's a slapfight about diversity, I'm all for stonewalling it. Because fuck forced diversity.

Elba's is a really good actor with the right presence and poise to play a Bond type character. I'd rather James Bond be abolished in the fires of the Cultural Revolution, but the bloke's just genuinely good if you've ever seen him on screen. His name has been on the cards for a long time.

He's not bad, I'll admit. He's quite tall, too, which could harken back to the Connery days. However, I think he'd make a better anti-Bond, preferably for more than one film.

Also, mate, Cultural Revolution my large behind.

[Rabukurafoto]

If the idea of a black Bond is so unthinkable, then wouldn't it actually be a good idea, from a practical standpoint?

I mean, if the bad guys are expecting a white 007 to come ruin their shit, then a black 007 could benefit from a crucial element of surprise...

[Bakery Hill]

We can make a compromise. Elba has to put on a Scottish accent for the role.

Sick Boy: [Sean Connery accent] Do you shee the beasht? Have you got it in your shights?
Mark "Rent-boy" Renton: [aiming the pellet gun at a dog] Clear enough, Missh Moneypenny! This should preshent no shignificant problemsh!
[shoots the dog which starts attacking its owner]
Sick Boy: For a vegetarian, Rents, you're a fuckin' EVIL shot!

Haha well done there

[Infected Mushroom]

And we're back to #notruescotsman.

Funnily enough, Bond is a Scotsman.

And he's white. he's supposed to be white, and shouldn't be made black just to cast a good actor or appease the race baiters.

This

I agree

[Bakery Hill]

Elba's is a really good actor with the right presence and poise to play a Bond type character. I'd rather James Bond be abolished in the fires of the Cultural Revolution, but the bloke's just genuinely good if you've ever seen him on screen. His name has been on the cards for a long time.

He's not bad, I'll admit. He's quite tall, too, which could harken back to the Connery days. However, I think he'd make a better anti-Bond, preferably for more than one film.

Also, mate, Cultural Revolution my large behind.

You won't have a large behind come the Cultural Revolution.

[The Great-German Empire]

Yes, exactly that. It's a 60s film and should be treated as such. Rape is a tragedy in real life, but in a movie about a womanizing spy? Hell, I laughed at that scene.

Fuck you're odd man.

I just see no reason to get sad over things that haven't actually caused any pain. And the scene... Just so damn sudden. Nobody would have the balls (or the lack of brains) to film that today and for firm and good reasons. So I laughed.

[The Great-German Empire]

You won't have a large behind come the Cultural Revolution.

This is getting off topic, and fast.

[Bombadil]

If the idea of a black Bond is so unthinkable, then wouldn't it actually be a good idea, from a practical standpoint?

I mean, if the bad guys are expecting a white 007 to come ruin their shit, then a black 007 could benefit from a crucial element of surprise...

A black man.. in a casino.. in Monaco.. get him boys he must be some kind of spy..

[Ethel mermania]

Before that he was a generic British man - of british heritage.

People of british heritage generally are white.

People of British heritage generally aren't spies.

Yes, yes they are.

Perfidious Albion

[Mutz]

He wasn't Scottish in the books until -after- Connery was cast.

Before that he was a generic British man - of british heritage.

People of british heritage generally are white.

Oh for... even if suddenly the books are supposed to matter (after tons of movies which are the only cultural touchpoint for the vast majority of people when it comes to this character), he isn't a generic British man in the books. He's half Swiss from the Canton of Vaud and yet he could never speak either French, German, Swiss-German nor is he addicted to 80%-proof Fondue or hoarding Nazi gold. Y u gotta extinguish my proud heritage, like some loony leftie? Why no outcry about that? Or that he never even had a Scottish accent after Connery?

Either be be consistent and only accept movies which are strict adaptations of the original books, setting, plot, dialogue and all or accept that there's such a thing as an expanded universe and the necessity of change if you want something new. To which also belongs accepting the fact that a. there's plenty of Brits, be they Scottish, English, Welsh, Northern Irish, Cornish, or whatever-upon-Brexitshire that have a dark skintone and b. That if you want the best actor for the role and which might attract most new fans, revamp the brand or whatever, you also need to consider those aforementioned Brits.

Plus Idris Elba is a great actor from London, so what more do you want?

[Ethel mermania]

I made that exact same argument earlier. People are screaming to high heaven about a black Bond breaking canon, yet they have selective blindness to the fact that Bond has had several complete face, body, and personality transplants over the decades...

We can make a compromise. Elba has to put on a Scottish accent for the role.

And whiteface.

[The New California Republic]

Funnily enough, Bond is a Scotsman.

And he's white. he's supposed to be white, and shouldn't be made black just to cast a good actor or appease the race baiters.

This

I agree

As a hardcore Bond fan I don't care.