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James Bond is..

..the ubermench, an Ayn Rand reading champion of men's rights!
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..a total hippie, a kale eating equal opportunities sandal wearer
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..amm.. a fictional character who isn't political
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..what..? He's the very cornerstone of political belief structure
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..the equivalent of a flotilla of a million refugees
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..David Hasselhoff is the only acceptable Bond..
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An opportunity for a poll?
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..but the Hoff is a total poophead..
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:02 am

Unconquered Frontier wrote:He's a white guy and they ought to hire a white guy to play him or have some sort of written explanation for not doing. Write something new for women/minorities if it's such a problem. The rest of it - him being straight, him being a Republican or not (he isn't, he's a Tory but I get the point, he's right wing), him being British is all down to acting.
There's nothing wrong with acting. People need to stop being so offended by it.

Why would they need to explain Bond not being white? There are non-white people in Britain. Non-white people are allowed to work for the government.
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Postby The South Falls » Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:08 am

Ifreann wrote:
The South Falls wrote:James Bond killed everyone. Didn't spare democrats or republicans. He's pretty apolitical.

He just has a very particular set of skills

wait, fuck, wrong movie

Bryan Mills probably voted Republican until 2016.

I could beleive that one. Although, wouldn't he be a little busy saving everyone's ass?
Unconquered Frontier wrote:He's a white guy and they ought to hire a white guy to play him or have some sort of written explanation for not doing. Write something new for women/minorities if it's such a problem. The rest of it - him being straight, him being a Republican or not (he isn't, he's a Tory but I get the point, he's right wing), him being British is all down to acting.
There's nothing wrong with acting. People need to stop being so offended by it.

Elba can act. If you can act well enough, you get the part. Simple.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:12 am

The South Falls wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Bryan Mills probably voted Republican until 2016.

I could beleive that one. Although, wouldn't he be a little busy saving everyone's ass?

Well yeah, if someone got taken near election day he'd probably prioritise that over voting.
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Postby Wawakanatote » Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:23 am

Honestly, he seems like a neoliberal to me, so probably the far right of the democratic party or just really any establishment character.

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Postby The South Falls » Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:25 am

Ifreann wrote:
The South Falls wrote:I could beleive that one. Although, wouldn't he be a little busy saving everyone's ass?

Well yeah, if someone got taken near election day he'd probably prioritise that over voting.

If a candidate got taken though? Putin wouldn't do tthhhaaaatttttt
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:16 am

I don’t want to jinx myself or anything. But let me say... if it turns out they DO decide to cast mr. Elba as Bond... I might truly get a nervous breakdown.

I’m not sure I could deal with the ramifications... I would be in serious shock...

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:20 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:I don’t want to jinx myself or anything. But let me say... if it turns out they DO decide to cast mr. Elba as Bond... I might truly get a nervous breakdown.

I’m not sure I could deal with the ramifications... I would be in serious shock...

It is not at all normal to react that strongly and you should definitely get help with that. Get prescribed a big bag of weed to chill out or something.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:22 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:I don’t want to jinx myself or anything. But let me say... if it turns out they DO decide to cast mr. Elba as Bond... I might truly get a nervous breakdown.

I’m not sure I could deal with the ramifications... I would be in serious shock...


A black man in a lead role would give you a nervous breakdown?

For fuck's sake, it's not the nineteen fifties.
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Postby True Alimeria » Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:30 am

If Catholics think they can depict Jesus as a West-Siberian blond viking, then so can James Bond be a black guy.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:24 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:I don’t want to jinx myself or anything. But let me say... if it turns out they DO decide to cast mr. Elba as Bond... I might truly get a nervous breakdown.

I’m not sure I could deal with the ramifications... I would be in serious shock...

The sheer amount of racism needed to cause a nervous breakdown just because a black actor gets cast for a certain role is staggering...
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Postby Jerzylvania » Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:26 am

Ifreann wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:I don’t want to jinx myself or anything. But let me say... if it turns out they DO decide to cast mr. Elba as Bond... I might truly get a nervous breakdown.

I’m not sure I could deal with the ramifications... I would be in serious shock...

It is not at all normal to react that strongly and you should definitely get help with that. Get prescribed a big bag of weed to chill out or something.


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Postby True Alimeria » Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:29 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:I don’t want to jinx myself or anything. But let me say... if it turns out they DO decide to cast mr. Elba as Bond... I might truly get a nervous breakdown.

I’m not sure I could deal with the ramifications... I would be in serious shock...


Brate, I'd absolutely celebrate this sh't and for the first time since ten years ago actually watch a James Bond movie ;;)
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Postby United American Commomwealth » Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:31 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:I don’t want to jinx myself or anything. But let me say... if it turns out they DO decide to cast mr. Elba as Bond... I might truly get a nervous breakdown.

I’m not sure I could deal with the ramifications... I would be in serious shock...

PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

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Ifreann wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:I don’t want to jinx myself or anything. But let me say... if it turns out they DO decide to cast mr. Elba as Bond... I might truly get a nervous breakdown.

I’m not sure I could deal with the ramifications... I would be in serious shock...

It is not at all normal to react that strongly and you should definitely get help with that. Get prescribed a big bag of weed to chill out or something.

Weed's going to be legal in Canada in a few months time, prescription not needed.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:33 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:I don’t want to jinx myself or anything. But let me say... if it turns out they DO decide to cast mr. Elba as Bond... I might truly get a nervous breakdown.

I’m not sure I could deal with the ramifications... I would be in serious shock...


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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:47 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:I don’t want to jinx myself or anything. But let me say... if it turns out they DO decide to cast mr. Elba as Bond... I might truly get a nervous breakdown.

I’m not sure I could deal with the ramifications... I would be in serious shock...
Oh fucking get a grip and stop being so fucking offended and worked up by the idea of a character in a movie having a different skin colour.

If this, of all fucking things gives you a nervous breakdown you need to go see a doctor.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:50 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:I don’t want to jinx myself or anything. But let me say... if it turns out they DO decide to cast mr. Elba as Bond... I might truly get a nervous breakdown.

I’m not sure I could deal with the ramifications... I would be in serious shock...
Oh fucking get a grip and stop being so fucking offended and worked up by the idea of a character in a movie having a different skin colour.

If this, of all fucking things gives you a nervous breakdown you need to go see a doctor.

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:51 am

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Ifreann wrote:It is not at all normal to react that strongly and you should definitely get help with that. Get prescribed a big bag of weed to chill out or something.

Weed's going to be legal in Canada in a few months time, prescription not needed.

Even better! Smoke weed every day, eh?
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Postby Andsed » Sat Aug 18, 2018 10:01 am

Well Elba is a good actor so I think he will do well. It may a bit jarring for a race change but considering all the different Bonds it really is not a big deal. As for Bond being a republican just what he is fictional spy living in the UK I don't think he would be all that interested in US politics.
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Andsed wrote:Well Elba is a good actor so I think he will do well. It may a bit jarring for a race change but considering all the different Bonds it really is not a big deal. As for Bond being a republican just what he is fictional spy living in the UK I don't think he would be all that interested in US politics.

I think a spy living in the UK probably would be very interested in US politics.

Probably not in a good way though.
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James Bond can't be a Republican in the American sense as he wouldn't be an American citizen. American political party affiliations are therefore irrelevant to Mr Bond.

Nor can Mr Bond be a Republican in the Irish sense as he's of mixed Scottish-Swiss parentage; we can therefore assume that he is not an active supporter of Sinn Fein or the Irish Republican Army (which would, in any case, seem unlikely given his chosen career path).

If Mr Bond is a republican in any sense, it could only be in supporting the replacement of the British monarch with an elected head of state. The opening ceremony of the 2012 Olympics nonetheless strongly implied that Mr Bond is a monarchist.

Therefore, no; James Bond is not a Republican - or a republican.

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Postby Jerzylvania » Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:57 pm

The Archregimancy wrote:James Bond can't be a Republican in the American sense as he wouldn't be an American citizen. American political party affiliations are therefore irrelevant to Mr Bond.

Nor can Mr Bond be a Republican in the Irish sense as he's of mixed Scottish-Swiss parentage; we can therefore assume that he is not an active supporter of Sinn Fein or the Irish Republican Army (which would, in any case, seem unlikely given his chosen career path).

If Mr Bond is a republican in any sense, it could only be in supporting the replacement of the British monarch with an elected head of state. The opening ceremony of the 2012 Olympics nonetheless strongly implied that Mr Bond is a monarchist.

Therefore, no; James Bond is not a Republican - or a republican.

Next question.


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Postby Liriena » Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:00 pm

In terms of the overarching themes of the James Bond series, such as they are, he is a fairly conservative character.
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Jerzylvania wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:James Bond can't be a Republican in the American sense as he wouldn't be an American citizen. American political party affiliations are therefore irrelevant to Mr Bond.

Nor can Mr Bond be a Republican in the Irish sense as he's of mixed Scottish-Swiss parentage; we can therefore assume that he is not an active supporter of Sinn Fein or the Irish Republican Army (which would, in any case, seem unlikely given his chosen career path).

If Mr Bond is a republican in any sense, it could only be in supporting the replacement of the British monarch with an elected head of state. The opening ceremony of the 2012 Olympics nonetheless strongly implied that Mr Bond is a monarchist.

Therefore, no; James Bond is not a Republican - or a republican.

Next question.


What about having dual citizenship?

He's a citizen of Britain, the only way he'd have American citizenship is illegally.
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Postby Camicon » Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:04 pm

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What about having dual citizenship?

He's a citizen of Britain, the only way he'd have American citizenship is illegally.

British parents, born in America, would make him a dual British-American citizen. Or being born in the UK while having one British and one American parent.
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