South American Politics Megathread

[Washington Resistance Army]

>mfw Brazil will never go Integralist

This is the worst timeline

[Zex]

does anyone know of any movements within SA to join the USA?

[Stormaen]

does anyone know of any movements within SA to join the USA?

None that I’m aware of; certainly nothing mainstream. You have to remember that the US undertook Operation Condor in SA and then there was the ‘pink tide’ which saw the election of leftist governments across the continent that all had pretty firm anti-US platforms.

However, as others have said, SA like no other continent has no collective memory. They seemingly - and sadly - forget the atrocities of the past the moment they’ve gone by.

[Liriena]

We have a decent collective memory, but now and then we have to kick ourselves in the head a bit to remember why we stopped applying certain policies.

Can't recall the name of the article, but a few months ago I was reading about how a lack of collective memory is often considered the problem of Argentine in particular.

I dislike the notion of treating history as something that moves in circles... but good gawd does Macri give me Menem and De la Rúa flashbacks. :/

Honestly, I think the Argie people as a whole have a fairly good grasp of what was good about the past and worth continuing or repeating, and what wasn't. Opinion polls show we collectively despise pretty much every group and organization in a position of economic or political power, and that we can tell when we're about to get screwed by neoliberalism yet again.

But we are kind of trapped with an insulated political class and party system in which nothing really has any lasting political consequences because of partisan loyalties, so the absolute worst people just won't go away or be held accountable.

[Liriena]

does anyone know of any movements within SA to join the USA?

No. Im fact, there is a lot of resentment towards the US, and for good historical reasons.

[Kiruri]

corruption, cartels and political prisoners. What's not to like?

Definitely the best continent in the world

Eh, Africa's got us beat

[Kiruri]

does anyone know of any movements within SA to join the USA?

No. Im fact, there is a lot of resentment towards the US, and for good historical reasons.

There's a reason why the US isn't as popular around the world as many Americans think. This is especially true in "America's Backyard" a.k.a Latin America.

[Auze]

What about Guyana and Suriname?

Guyana and Suriname are rightful brazilian clay, not sure what you're talking about :^)

Suriname should stay independent, if only because it is probably the only country in the western hemisphere to have it's largest ethic group be Indian.

[Auze]

No. Im fact, there is a lot of resentment towards the US, and for good historical reasons.

There's a reason why the US isn't as popular around the world as many Americans think. This is especially true in "America's Backyard" a.k.a Latin America.

"Extremely unpopular" seems to be what we generally think is our stance in the world, so I am not sure how much lower.

[Great Minarchistan]

Poll added, topic focused on brazilian elections
P.S.: Sorry for the clusterfuck of options, I actually had to cutback on the amount of candidates in there

[Great Minarchistan]

does anyone know of any movements within SA to join the USA?

No. Im fact, there is a lot of resentment towards the US, and for good historical reasons.

Muh imperialism that setback south american progress

[Collatis]

Poll added, topic focused on brazilian elections
P.S.: Sorry for the clusterfuck of options, I actually had to cutback on the amount of candidates in there

>including Novo but not Podemos

Someone's biased

[Great Minarchistan]

Poll added, topic focused on brazilian elections
P.S.: Sorry for the clusterfuck of options, I actually had to cutback on the amount of candidates in there

>including Novo but not Podemos

Someone's biased

C'mon, Amoedo is worth half billion, while the guy from podemos had an absolutely piss poor performance at the recent debate

[Liriena]

No. Im fact, there is a lot of resentment towards the US, and for good historical reasons.

Muh imperialism that setback south american progress

^this but unironically

We are perfectly capable of wrecking ourselves on our own, but it sure would be nice if the US stopped helping

[Rio Cana]

Xuxa for Pres. of Brazil. It probably would be an improvement.

[Baltenstein]

Just did a quick Wiki read on the Brazilian presidential candidates. Apparently, this Bolsonaro fellow is like Donald Trump on crack. How high is the chance that he gets elected?

[Great Minarchistan]

Muh imperialism that setback south american progress

^this but unironically

We are perfectly capable of wrecking ourselves on our own, but it sure would be nice if the US stopped helping

The yankees weren't responsible for the bloating of our governments, for our consumption-ridden growth and for our shitty institutions cultivated in South America :^)

[Great Minarchistan]

Just did a quick Wiki read on the Brazilian presidential candidates. Apparently, this Bolsonaro fellow is like Donald Trump on crack. How high is the chance that he gets elected?

I'd price a 67-75% chance, though we don't have math shills like Nate Silver to do the job

[Goverment Of The Argentinian State]

Can't recall the name of the article, but a few months ago I was reading about how a lack of collective memory is often considered the problem of Argentine in particular.

I dislike the notion of treating history as something that moves in circles... but good gawd does Macri give me Menem and De la Rúa flashbacks. :/

Honestly, I think the Argie people as a whole have a fairly good grasp of what was good about the past and worth continuing or repeating, and what wasn't. Opinion polls show we collectively despise pretty much every group and organization in a position of economic or political power, and that we can tell when we're about to get screwed by neoliberalism yet again.

But we are kind of trapped with an insulated political class and party system in which nothing really has any lasting political consequences because of partisan loyalties, so the absolute worst people just won't go away or be held accountable.

Roca please come back. Restore Republica Conservadora tbh.

This country will never work until the disease of labor unions is neutralized back to pre-1943 levels. Same goes for the buisnessmen that take advantage of everyone at every turn and the whole of the political class. The saddest thing about this country is to have been something and then have it slowly sink into disrepair and this syndicated hellhole in which the middle class has no destiny but to pay for the benefit of the rich and poor at it's expense.

[Goverment Of The Argentinian State]

Just did a quick Wiki read on the Brazilian presidential candidates. Apparently, this Bolsonaro fellow is like Donald Trump on crack. How high is the chance that he gets elected?

Bolsonaro has nothing to do with Trump. He is an ex-army captain and an actual nationalist legitimately angry at the fact literal subsersive terrorists can be elected to high office, not a shoddy mAgA trying to take advantage of industrial workers.

[Aboim]

Xuxa for Pres. of Brazil. It probably would be an improvement.

Make Americas great again.

Just did a quick Wiki read on the Brazilian presidential candidates. Apparently, this Bolsonaro fellow is like Donald Trump on crack. How high is the chance that he gets elected?

I don't know. I imagine Trump on crack as a strange old man running and screaming about Mexican boobs.

[Liriena]

I dislike the notion of treating history as something that moves in circles... but good gawd does Macri give me Menem and De la Rúa flashbacks. :/

Honestly, I think the Argie people as a whole have a fairly good grasp of what was good about the past and worth continuing or repeating, and what wasn't. Opinion polls show we collectively despise pretty much every group and organization in a position of economic or political power, and that we can tell when we're about to get screwed by neoliberalism yet again.

But we are kind of trapped with an insulated political class and party system in which nothing really has any lasting political consequences because of partisan loyalties, so the absolute worst people just won't go away or be held accountable.

Roca please come back. Restore Republica Conservadora tbh.

This country will never work until the disease of labor unions is neutralized back to pre-1943 levels. Same goes for the buisnessmen that take advantage of everyone at every turn and the whole of the political class. The saddest thing about this country is to have been something and then have it slowly sink into disrepair and this syndicated hellhole in which the middle class has no destiny but to pay for the benefit of the rich and poor at it's expense.

Lmao nope, take your misguided nostalgia elsewhere, as well as your pitting the middle class against the poor.

[Liriena]

Just did a quick Wiki read on the Brazilian presidential candidates. Apparently, this Bolsonaro fellow is like Donald Trump on crack. How high is the chance that he gets elected?

Bolsonaro has nothing to do with Trump. He is an ex-army captain and an actual nationalist legitimately angry at the fact literal subsersive terrorists can be elected to high office, not a shoddy mAgA trying to take advantage of industrial workers.

He's a far right piece of shit like the rest and I hope he loses miserably.

[Liriena]

^this but unironically

We are perfectly capable of wrecking ourselves on our own, but it sure would be nice if the US stopped helping

The yankees weren't responsible for the bloating of our governments, for our consumption-ridden growth and for our shitty institutions cultivated in South America :^)

I love how you try to paint the welfare state and industrialization focused on growing a strong domestic market as bad things.

Methinks someone is still stuck in pre-1929 economic thinking.

[-United Republic of Freedonia]

Unión!

Suriname secretly controls all of South America... but you didn't hear it from me.

*grins like a Paraguayan*