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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:04 am
by Infected Mushroom
Chan Island wrote:Responding to the name, especially after a 30 minute discussion where the suspect has been told the detective suspects he is Yoshiro. Of course the person has been primed to respond to the name.

In addition, Yoshiro means happy person. And I don't know about you, but I'd be very happy to find that the detective has cleared me from a murder suspect list (because &%*@! that's a scary place to be) and is also giving me 11000 yen (which is not a bad sum of money) for the trouble. So yes, calling me 'happy person' would elicit a response from me.

Also, being close to 2 out of 12 murder locations, especially in as big and dense a city as Tokyo, is flimsy evidence.


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. . . . Hmmmmmm.... yeah well that COULD be a problem...

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:11 am
by Bombadil
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Chan Island wrote:Responding to the name, especially after a 30 minute discussion where the suspect has been told the detective suspects he is Yoshiro. Of course the person has been primed to respond to the name.

In addition, Yoshiro means happy person. And I don't know about you, but I'd be very happy to find that the detective has cleared me from a murder suspect list (because &%*@! that's a scary place to be) and is also giving me 11000 yen (which is not a bad sum of money) for the trouble. So yes, calling me 'happy person' would elicit a response from me.

Also, being close to 2 out of 12 murder locations, especially in as big and dense a city as Tokyo, is flimsy evidence.


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. . . . Hmmmmmm.... yeah well that COULD be a problem...


A problem pointed out in the very first response to the OP..

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:13 am
by Ifreann
The New California Republic wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Maybe Yoshiro stole it from you?

Yoshiro's list of crimes is growing...

You've gone too far this time, Dr. NakaMats.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:14 am
by Infected Mushroom
Bombadil wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
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. . . . Hmmmmmm.... yeah well that COULD be a problem...


A problem pointed out in the very first response to the OP..


so you mean I should have used a different name?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:18 am
by The New California Republic
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
A problem pointed out in the very first response to the OP..


so you mean I should have used a different name?

Bob. Bob is a good name. Bob.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:20 am
by Ifreann
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
A problem pointed out in the very first response to the OP..


so you mean I should have used a different name?

If they were the Takada Murders, would Det. Takada arrest himself?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:22 am
by Bombadil
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
A problem pointed out in the very first response to the OP..


so you mean I should have used a different name?


Well.. as someone else has noted.. you've primed a person to respond to a name, even if 'are you Yoshiro', response being 'no'.. then leaving to the end and calling out, for which tone of call will turn a head anyway, 'Yoshiro', and convicting on their responding.

So it's not just the name, it's the utter flimsiness of the evidence.

It's a cheap plot line of a poor detective novel.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:31 am
by Internationalist Bastard
I think that’s some shite evidence

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:36 am
by The New California Republic
Internationalist Bastard wrote:I think that’s some shite evidence

It isn't even evidence at all really.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:38 am
by The Holy Therns
Bombadil wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
so you mean I should have used a different name?


Well.. as someone else has noted.. you've primed a person to respond to a name, even if 'are you Yoshiro', response being 'no'.. then leaving to the end and calling out, for which tone of call will turn a head anyway, 'Yoshiro', and convicting on their responding.

So it's not just the name, it's the utter flimsiness of the evidence.

It's a cheap plot line of a poor detective novel.


Tonight on Mushroom Mysteries... "The Case Of The Happy Person".

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:38 am
by Bombadil
The New California Republic wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:I think that’s some shite evidence

It isn't even evidence at all really.


"See.. from the stab wounds I knew the killer was left handed.. and if you remember I dropped the salt shaker and the butler caught it with.. his left hand.. take him away to execution boys.."

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:40 am
by Infected Mushroom
The Holy Therns wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
Well.. as someone else has noted.. you've primed a person to respond to a name, even if 'are you Yoshiro', response being 'no'.. then leaving to the end and calling out, for which tone of call will turn a head anyway, 'Yoshiro', and convicting on their responding.

So it's not just the name, it's the utter flimsiness of the evidence.

It's a cheap plot line of a poor detective novel.


Tonight on Mushroom Mysteries... "The Case Of The Happy Person".


I like the sound of this. Mushroom Mysteries.

Its like a Mysteries Inc.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:41 am
by Galloism
Even Judge Judy wouldn't convict on that one.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:42 am
by Alvecia
The New California Republic wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:I think that’s some shite evidence

It isn't even evidence at all really.

I thought we pretty well established in that other thread that IM has some warped views on what defines ‘evidence’.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:44 am
by The Holy Therns
Infected Mushroom wrote:
The Holy Therns wrote:
Tonight on Mushroom Mysteries... "The Case Of The Happy Person".


I like the sound of this. Mushroom Mysteries.

Its like a Mysteries Inc.


Just a whole lot stranger.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:45 am
by Internationalist Bastard
The New California Republic wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:I think that’s some shite evidence

It isn't even evidence at all really.

I mean the no alibi thing would be good with you know, something that actually links him to the murders but like, here it’s nothing

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:46 am
by Bombadil
The Holy Therns wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
I like the sound of this. Mushroom Mysteries.

Its like a Mysteries Inc.


Just a whole lot stranger.


The detective is a fun guy to hang out with though..

Fun guy..

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Fungi.. mushrooms..

Screw you all I'll be here all week..

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:55 am
by Ifreann
Bombadil wrote:
The Holy Therns wrote:
Just a whole lot stranger.


The detective is a fun guy to hang out with though..

Fun guy..

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Fungi.. mushrooms..

Screw you all I'll be here all week..

[raucous mycologist laughter]

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:30 am
by Thermodolia
Ifreann wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
so you mean I should have used a different name?

If they were the Takada Murders, would Det. Takada arrest himself?

Id like to see that. Especially if he resists his own self arresting himself

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:44 am
by Ithreland
Infected Mushroom wrote:Discussion:
1. If you were on the jury, and you were asked to convict only if is "beyond a reasonable doubt" that the Suspect is the murderer... would you convict? Is there enough evidence?

2. What is the weight that should be afforded to the fact that in an informal investigation, while distracted, the Suspect responded twice without objection/comment while being called Yoshiro?

3. (this is a slightly different take from 1); do you PERSONALLY think (irrespective of jury duty) that the Suspect, based on the facts, was Yoshiro?


  1. Possibly? I'd prefer "maybe-Yoshiro" to be held until another murder is or is not committed w/o revealing it to the press so any other Yoshiro wouldn't know to not kill anyone.
  2. They'd been talking about Yoshiro; I'd like to know whether the alias was self-assigned so as to know whether or not Yoshiro would think of themselves as their name or as "Yoshiro".
  3. Maybe.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:44 am
by Ifreann
Thermodolia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:If they were the Takada Murders, would Det. Takada arrest himself?

Id like to see that. Especially if he resists his own self arresting himself

Japanese Man Beats Himself Up - 50 million views

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:48 am
by The New California Republic
Ifreann wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Id like to see that. Especially if he resists his own self arresting himself

Japanese Man Beats Himself Up - 50 million views

A one punch knockout would be both impressive and shameful...

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:03 am
by The Multiverse of Holly Starlight
The New California Republic wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Japanese Man Beats Himself Up - 50 million views

A one punch knockout would be both impressive and shameful...


One Punch Man KO'ed Himself - More at 9.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:34 am
by San Lumen
I would vote to acquit there is little to no evidence of guilt and sounds to me like attempt to find suspect because they can't catch him

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:55 am
by Petrasylvania
Somebody just discovered Death Note.