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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:05 pm

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:https://www.foxnews.com/world/us-poised-to-pull-out-of-nuclear-arms-treaty-with-moscow-source?fbclid=IwAR2xK6ePEHCm5tt4OXyolh7LGByiEUxxx--lp9hYqUh0Wcw1SBRIV3rElnc

I have no words.


Time to collapse the Russian economy again, lets go.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:21 pm

Yay... mini Tsar Bombas?
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:33 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:Yay... mini Tsar Bombas?

I am one step closer to my dream of recreational McNukes.
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Postby Oil exporting People » Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:40 pm

The South Falls wrote:You understand this allows Russia to build those medium nukes it wanted to?


Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Both the US and Russia will be released of obligations to one another. Putin will be free to openly construct intermediate missiles, just as they have wanted to do before. Actually calling out Putin with evidence before the UN would have been much more adversarial.


Petrasylvania wrote:Bolton is a Russian Stooge now? And giving Moscow a legit excuse to build up nukes sure sounds like stooging.


Vassenor wrote:Remember, rolling over and letting another nation do whatever it wants totally isn't stooging now.


You mean the missiles they were already building despite the U.S. having repeatedly condemned them?

You can see that this is not actually hurting Putin, right?


It's forced Russia into an Arms race it can't win and just gave American justification to resume building ABM sites in Europe.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:52 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:
The South Falls wrote:You understand this allows Russia to build those medium nukes it wanted to?


Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Both the US and Russia will be released of obligations to one another. Putin will be free to openly construct intermediate missiles, just as they have wanted to do before. Actually calling out Putin with evidence before the UN would have been much more adversarial.


Petrasylvania wrote:Bolton is a Russian Stooge now? And giving Moscow a legit excuse to build up nukes sure sounds like stooging.


Vassenor wrote:Remember, rolling over and letting another nation do whatever it wants totally isn't stooging now.


You mean the missiles they were already building despite the U.S. having repeatedly condemned them?

You can see that this is not actually hurting Putin, right?


It's forced Russia into an Arms race it can't win and just gave American justification to resume building ABM sites in Europe.


I thought the ABM treaty was a different treaty?

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Postby Oil exporting People » Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:54 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:I thought the ABM treaty was a different treaty?


It is, the U.S. pulled out of it in 2002. If Russia starts mass production of IRBMs, however, it justifies the resumption of us building ABM sites in Europe like we were during the dying days of the Bush Administration.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:03 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:I thought the ABM treaty was a different treaty?


It is, the U.S. pulled out of it in 2002. If Russia starts mass production of IRBMs, however, it justifies the resumption of us building ABM sites in Europe like we were during the dying days of the Bush Administration.


Russia has no interest in IRBMs. They're building IRCMs.

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Postby Oil exporting People » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:09 pm

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Oil exporting People wrote:
It is, the U.S. pulled out of it in 2002. If Russia starts mass production of IRBMs, however, it justifies the resumption of us building ABM sites in Europe like we were during the dying days of the Bush Administration.


Russia has no interest in IRBMs. They're building IRCMs.


The Treaty the U.S. is pulling out of concerns IRBMs. You might want to read up further on it.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:22 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Russia has no interest in IRBMs. They're building IRCMs.


The Treaty the U.S. is pulling out of concerns IRBMs. You might want to read up further on it.


It's the INF treaty. It covers IRCMs as well.

AMB tech won't protect against IRCMs. Perhaps you need to do a little reading?

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Postby Petrasylvania » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:24 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Oil exporting People wrote:
The Treaty the U.S. is pulling out of concerns IRBMs. You might want to read up further on it.


It's the INF treaty. It covers IRCMs as well.

AMB tech won't protect against IRCMs. Perhaps you need to do a little reading?

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Postby Trumptonium1 » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:30 pm

Democrat Rep. Joaquin Castro - former Obama cabinet member and 'starlet' often cited as 2020 option - went on TV to announce without evidence that Jared Kushner was actually the murderer of Khashoggi.

Pure gold. Although the NPCs will eat it up and believe it. Innocent until proven guilty is all but gone in liberal politics. It's time for mob rule.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:32 pm

Trumptonium1 wrote:Democrat Rep. Joaquin Castro - former Obama cabinet member and 'starlet' often cited as 2020 option - went on TV to announce without evidence that Jared Kushner was actually the murderer of Khashoggi.

Pure gold. Although the NPCs will eat it up and believe it. Innocent until proven guilty is all but gone in liberal politics. It's time for mob rule.


You have a source for that? I'd like to watch.

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Postby Petrasylvania » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:33 pm

Trumptonium1 wrote:Democrat Rep. Joaquin Castro - former Obama cabinet member and 'starlet' often cited as 2020 option - went on TV to announce without evidence that Jared Kushner was actually the murderer of Khashoggi.

Pure gold. Although the NPCs will eat it up and believe it. Innocent until proven guilty is all but gone in liberal politics. It's time for mob rule.

"NPC". Gotta keep up with the latest alt-right meme, eh fanboy?
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Postby Dahon » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:34 pm

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:https://www.foxnews.com/world/us-poised-to-pull-out-of-nuclear-arms-treaty-with-moscow-source?fbclid=IwAR2xK6ePEHCm5tt4OXyolh7LGByiEUxxx--lp9hYqUh0Wcw1SBRIV3rElnc

I have no words.


I have a few, but they'll get me banned.

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Greater Cesnica wrote:Yay... mini Tsar Bombas?

I am one step closer to my dream of recreational McNukes.


Yes, I too want to die in agony.
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Postby Trumptonium1 » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:35 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Trumptonium1 wrote:Democrat Rep. Joaquin Castro - former Obama cabinet member and 'starlet' often cited as 2020 option - went on TV to announce without evidence that Jared Kushner was actually the murderer of Khashoggi.

Pure gold. Although the NPCs will eat it up and believe it. Innocent until proven guilty is all but gone in liberal politics. It's time for mob rule.


You have a source for that? I'd like to watch.


https://www.texastribune.org/2018/10/19 ... gton-post/
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Postby Petrasylvania » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:35 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Trumptonium1 wrote:Democrat Rep. Joaquin Castro - former Obama cabinet member and 'starlet' often cited as 2020 option - went on TV to announce without evidence that Jared Kushner was actually the murderer of Khashoggi.

Pure gold. Although the NPCs will eat it up and believe it. Innocent until proven guilty is all but gone in liberal politics. It's time for mob rule.


You have a source for that? I'd like to watch.

It probably talks about how Kushner's cushiness with the Saudis gave them the idea that there was green light on murdering Khashoggi before Turkey outed them and they suddenly had to say he was really Keanu Reeves.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:36 pm

Dahon wrote:Yes, I too want to die in agony.


Well it's most likely how you'll die. Death due to natural causes is rarely nice.

Standing next to a nuclear explosion would likely be quick though. :)

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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:38 pm

Trumptonium1 wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
You have a source for that? I'd like to watch.


https://www.texastribune.org/2018/10/19 ... gton-post/


So you were lying then.

You should stop doing that.

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Postby Petrasylvania » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:38 pm

Trumptonium1 wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
You have a source for that? I'd like to watch.


https://www.texastribune.org/2018/10/19 ... gton-post/

“Let me get to the point that I think is most disturbing right now,” Castro said to CNN reporter Poppy Harlow in Friday’s interview. “The reporting that Jared Kushner may have with U.S. intelligence delivered a hit list — an enemies list — to the crown prince, to [Mohammed bin Salman], in Saudi Arabia and that the prince then may have acted on that, and one of the people that he took action against is Mr. Khashoggi.”

And I was hoping Castro claimed Kushner personally bonesawed Khashoggi. What a disappointment.
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Postby Uxupox » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:39 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Dahon wrote:Yes, I too want to die in agony.


Well it's most likely how you'll die. Death due to natural causes is rarely nice.

Standing next to a nuclear explosion would likely be quick though. :)


nah. dying in your sleep is the best form of death. no suffering just an end.
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Postby Dahon » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:40 pm

Trumptonium1 wrote:Democrat Rep. Joaquin Castro - former Obama cabinet member and 'starlet' often cited as 2020 option - went on TV to announce without evidence that Jared Kushner was actually the murderer of Khashoggi.

Pure gold. Although the NPCs will eat it up and believe it. Innocent until proven guilty is all but gone in liberal politics. It's time for mob rule.


It's nice to know you'll tag along with your idol and cozy up like him to murderous regimes and their globetrotting henchmen on the flimsiest of pretexts.

By the way, whatever happened to congressional threats to force Trump to investigate the matter through the Magnitsky Act? Has Trump absconded out of that too?
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Postby Dahon » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:45 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:

“Let me get to the point that I think is most disturbing right now,” Castro said to CNN reporter Poppy Harlow in Friday’s interview. “The reporting that Jared Kushner may have with U.S. intelligence delivered a hit list — an enemies list — to the crown prince, to [Mohammed bin Salman], in Saudi Arabia and that the prince then may have acted on that, and one of the people that he took action against is Mr. Khashoggi.”

And I was hoping Castro claimed Kushner personally bonesawed Khashoggi. What a disappointment.


Holy shit, so my surmise that Trump effectively acted as accomplice to Khashoggi's murder may not just be hyperbole after all. Holy shit.
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Postby Valrifell » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:55 pm

Uxupox wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Well it's most likely how you'll die. Death due to natural causes is rarely nice.

Standing next to a nuclear explosion would likely be quick though. :)


nah. dying in your sleep is the best form of death. no suffering just an end.


Dying in your sleep or dying in a standard procedure gone wrong. You expect nothing and have nothing to fear.

Alternatively, I'd like to burn in orbit fucked up on opioids and psychedelics.
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Postby Trumptonium1 » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:57 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:


So you were lying then.

You should stop doing that.


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