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[Internationalist Bastard]

They think Red Dawn is a documentary on how to resist government tyranny.

They’re hoping for some kind of ruby ridge/those cattle farmers in Nevada thing where the government won’t bring the full weight of the military down on citizens but that’s largely because they’re not actually tyrants.

Hell our police are capable of wiping a militia off the map given a good reason

[Lord Dominator]

I never got the “we need guns in case the government goes full tyrant” argument
The government has flying death robots that can target your house, your ar-15 ain’t gonna do shit

The best I've heard is something along the lines that scaling up from revolutionary times, it should be legal to own and use modern artillery pieces

[Internationalist Bastard]

I never got the “we need guns in case the government goes full tyrant” argument
The government has flying death robots that can target your house, your ar-15 ain’t gonna do shit

An armed population could likely fuck up a tyrannical government.

My concern has always been about how little trust Americans have for their fellow Americans. They would have to vote in the tyranny to start with...

Not in America
Even if we were dealing with the Project at Edens Gate they’d probably not last long

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Popularity polls aren't elections m8.

Yes instead we have a system in place to put the least competent person in charge

Every preceding president was the least competent option?

Or is that just because you don't like one president you think they all suck?

I never got the “we need guns in case the government goes full tyrant” argument
The government has flying death robots that can target your house, your ar-15 ain’t gonna do shit

More an argument to further loosen gun laws than to tighten them.

Also, 99% of the military isn't flying death robots.

[Petrasylvania]

They’re hoping for some kind of ruby ridge/those cattle farmers in Nevada thing where the government won’t bring the full weight of the military down on citizens but that’s largely because they’re not actually tyrants.

Hell our police are capable of wiping a militia off the map given a good reason

Which unfortunately to them is "buncha angry blacks getting together."

[Internationalist Bastard]

I never got the “we need guns in case the government goes full tyrant” argument
The government has flying death robots that can target your house, your ar-15 ain’t gonna do shit

The best I've heard is something along the lines that scaling up from revolutionary times, it should be legal to own and use modern artillery pieces

Which still doesn’t account for the massive gap between what a private militia could afford and what the us government could afford

[NeoOasis]

I never got the “we need guns in case the government goes full tyrant” argument
The government has flying death robots that can target your house, your ar-15 ain’t gonna do shit

They think Red Dawn is a documentary on how to resist government tyranny.

Great movie, wrong government and wrong scale...

Okay... it wasn't that great a movie, but it amused me.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Yes instead we have a system in place to put the least competent person in charge

Every preceding president was the least competent option?

Or is that just because you don't like one president you think they all suck?

I never got the “we need guns in case the government goes full tyrant” argument
The government has flying death robots that can target your house, your ar-15 ain’t gonna do shit

More an argument to further loosen gun laws than to tighten them.

Also, 99% of the military isn't flying death robots.

Nice listening to me there
Our government has clearly shown it prefers drone strikes, if they go full dictatorship why would they stop doing that?

[Lord Dominator]

The best I've heard is something along the lines that scaling up from revolutionary times, it should be legal to own and use modern artillery pieces

Which still doesn’t account for the massive gap between what a private militia could afford and what the us government could afford

Psh. I just want my tank goddammit

[Cannot think of a name]

The best I've heard is something along the lines that scaling up from revolutionary times, it should be legal to own and use modern artillery pieces

Which still doesn’t account for the massive gap between what a private militia could afford and what the us government could afford

I mean, you got it in one, really. Robot death birds.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Every preceding president was the least competent option?

Or is that just because you don't like one president you think they all suck?

More an argument to further loosen gun laws than to tighten them.

Also, 99% of the military isn't flying death robots.

Nice listening to me there
Our government has clearly shown it prefers drone strikes, if they go full dictatorship why would they stop doing that?

Where did I say they would stop?

You can't win a war with just drones, especially in your own country where the enemy could be anywhere.

[Petrasylvania]

Nice listening to me there
Our government has clearly shown it prefers drone strikes, if they go full dictatorship why would they stop doing that?

Where did I say they would stop?

You can't win a war with just drones, especially in your own country where the enemy could be anywhere.

So you're saying the U.S. military isn't all that great? Then that means all that budget is a waste.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Where did I say they would stop?

You can't win a war with just drones, especially in your own country where the enemy could be anywhere.

So you're saying the U.S. military isn't all that great? Then that means all that budget is a waste.

Literally where did I say that.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Nice listening to me there
Our government has clearly shown it prefers drone strikes, if they go full dictatorship why would they stop doing that?

Where did I say they would stop?

You can't win a war with just drones, especially in your own country where the enemy could be anywhere.

No
But we can easily track down militia camps, homes and businesses, quickly blow them up forcing any survivors deep underground, and then between the already militarized police force and raw propaganda to sway all public support from the rebels they’d likely just end up being a terrorist group with little popular support running suicide missions every time they pop up

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Where did I say they would stop?

You can't win a war with just drones, especially in your own country where the enemy could be anywhere.

No
But we can easily track down militia camps, homes and businesses, quickly blow them up forcing any survivors deep underground, and then between the already militarized police force and raw propaganda to sway all public support from the rebels they’d likely just end up being a terrorist group with little popular support running suicide missions every time they pop up

Holy shit this is IM-tier speculation about what a government can do.

The government has enough trouble finding militia camps in other countries, the county, city, and state police are not loyal to the federal government, and if there's a noteworthy uprising it's probably because the government is unpopular so public support would be hard to come by.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Where did I say they would stop?

You can't win a war with just drones, especially in your own country where the enemy could be anywhere.

No
But we can easily track down militia camps, homes and businesses, quickly blow them up forcing any survivors deep underground, and then between the already militarized police force and raw propaganda to sway all public support from the rebels they’d likely just end up being a terrorist group with little popular support running suicide missions every time they pop up

Have fun blowing me up when I set up shop right next to a preschool :^]

[Internationalist Bastard]

No
But we can easily track down militia camps, homes and businesses, quickly blow them up forcing any survivors deep underground, and then between the already militarized police force and raw propaganda to sway all public support from the rebels they’d likely just end up being a terrorist group with little popular support running suicide missions every time they pop up

Have fun blowing me up when I set up shop right next to a preschool :^]

If the government has gone full dictator why would they care?

[Sovaal]

So you're saying the U.S. military isn't all that great? Then that means all that budget is a waste.

Literally where did I say that.

You're debating with the king of the strawmen.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Have fun blowing me up when I set up shop right next to a preschool :^]

If the government has gone full dictator why would they care?

They're gonna have an awfully hard time maintaining public support when you're blowing up toddlers in an attempt to stop the bad guys.

[Internationalist Bastard]

No
But we can easily track down militia camps, homes and businesses, quickly blow them up forcing any survivors deep underground, and then between the already militarized police force and raw propaganda to sway all public support from the rebels they’d likely just end up being a terrorist group with little popular support running suicide missions every time they pop up

Holy shit this is IM-tier speculation about what a government can do.

The government has enough trouble finding militia camps in other countries, the county, city, and state police are not loyal to the federal government, and if there's a noteworthy uprising it's probably because the government is unpopular so public support would be hard to come by.

Of course we have trouble finding things in other countries, their on the other side of the world. You think it’s harder to operate in your own country?

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Have fun blowing me up when I set up shop right next to a preschool :^]

If the government has gone full dictator why would they care?

If the government has gone full dictator then how could they have public support on their side?

[Sovaal]

Have fun blowing me up when I set up shop right next to a preschool :^]

If the government has gone full dictator why would they care?

Same reason Stalin didn't kill Zhukov.

[Internationalist Bastard]

If the government has gone full dictator why would they care?

They're gonna have an awfully hard time maintaining public support when you're blowing up toddlers in an attempt to stop the bad guys.

Well considering people support it people blow up civilians to kill terrorists all the time I’m sure it won’t be too hard to get people to do it again

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Holy shit this is IM-tier speculation about what a government can do.

The government has enough trouble finding militia camps in other countries, the county, city, and state police are not loyal to the federal government, and if there's a noteworthy uprising it's probably because the government is unpopular so public support would be hard to come by.

Of course we have trouble finding things in other countries, their on the other side of the world. You think it’s harder to operate in your own country?

It is when you're the third largest nation and a large portion of your geography makes for excellent hiding places.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

They're gonna have an awfully hard time maintaining public support when you're blowing up toddlers in an attempt to stop the bad guys.

Well considering people support it people blow up civilians to kill terrorists all the time I’m sure it won’t be too hard to get people to do it again

Americans don't like it when other Americans are blown up.