MAGAThread XIV: All persons born or naturalized ...

[Petrasylvania]

We have had 45 Presidents.
Only one has been so outrageously stupid that his own staff are writing damaging Op-eds to the NYT. Not to mention, if this was any other President, I doubt the Times would even take is seriously.

I mean come on, this would not have happened with Obama, or Reagan, or even Bush/Clinton.

This is a very special set of circumstances that require extreme measures.

They are taking it seriously because it's joicy drama tbh.

How many other Presidents had a staff actively undermining their impulsive attempts to pull out of trade agreements here and invade a country there?

[Jedi Council]

We have had 45 Presidents.
Only one has been so outrageously stupid that his own staff are writing damaging Op-eds to the NYT. Not to mention, if this was any other President, I doubt the Times would even take is seriously.

I mean come on, this would not have happened with Obama, or Reagan, or even Bush/Clinton.

This is a very special set of circumstances that require extreme measures.

They are taking it seriously because it's joicy drama tbh.

If there was no juicy drama it would not be a problem.

[Uxupox]

They are taking it seriously because it's joicy drama tbh.

How many other Presidents had a staff actively undermining their impulsive attempts to pull out of trade agreements here and invade a country there?

we had a couple. Bush (dick Cheney extraordinaire) and Obama (and the whole Snowden debacle) for one.

[Scomagia]

You've got it wrong. Future White House staff will be fine with trashing their boss if they perceive their boss to be those things. That's an important distinction to make.

We have had 45 Presidents.
Only one has been so outrageously stupid that his own staff are writing damaging Op-eds to the NYT. Not to mention, if this was any other President, I doubt the Times would even take is seriously.

I mean come on, this would not have happened with Obama, or Reagan, or even Bush/Clinton.

This is a very special set of circumstances that require extreme measures.

The precedent had never been set for this level of insubordination. It is being set now. That's the concern.

[Uxupox]

They are taking it seriously because it's joicy drama tbh.

If there was no juicy drama it would not be a problem.

There will always be juicy drama. Clinton's (Sexual Allegations), Bush (honorary Al-Saud prince) and Obama's(some made up affair). There will be always drama to export to the highest level in the hierarchy it is rather impossible not too. People absolutely love drama, doesn't matter if it's the President, your neighbor or your dog.

[The South Falls]

If there was no juicy drama it would not be a problem.

There will always be juicy drama. Clinton's (Sexual Allegations), Bush (honorary Al-Saud prince) and Obama's(some made up affair). There will be always drama to export to the highest level in the hierarchy it is rather impossible not too. People absolutely love drama, doesn't matter if it's the President, your neighbor or your dog.

The drama is almost never true, however. This is N exception.

[Petrasylvania]

How many other Presidents had a staff actively undermining their impulsive attempts to pull out of trade agreements here and invade a country there?

we had a couple. Bush (dick Cheney extraordinaire) and Obama (and the whole Snowden debacle) for one.

Single individuals are not a bad sign as the ENTIRE White House staff actively undermining a President.

[Bakery Hill]

If Trump was more like Reagan and less like JFK, liberals would like him a lot more.

[Petrasylvania]

If Trump was more like Reagan and less like JFK, liberals would like him a lot more.

So when did Kennedy throw a childish tantrum in public?

[Bakery Hill]

If Trump was more like Reagan and less like JFK, liberals would like him a lot more.

So when did Kennedy throw a childish tantrum in public?

I'm talking about his extra marital affairs, ties to organised crimes and ineffectiveness against Russia.

[Lady Scylla]

Seems to be growing consideration that VP Pence might be the author of the op-ed that was sent into NYT this morning, given the use of a rare word: ''Lodestar'', which is supposedly common among the VP's vernacular for the last several decades. If true, it's an interesting turn of events. A VP and White House staff working together to control Trump's impulses and avoid catastrophe.

[Dahon]

We have had 45 Presidents.
Only one has been so outrageously stupid that his own staff are writing damaging Op-eds to the NYT. Not to mention, if this was any other President, I doubt the Times would even take is seriously.

I mean come on, this would not have happened with Obama, or Reagan, or even Bush/Clinton.

This is a very special set of circumstances that require extreme measures.

They are taking it seriously because it's joicy drama tbh.

... "juicy drama". By the good Lord, everything this admin has done is just another soap opera episode to you?

[Petrasylvania]

They are taking it seriously because it's joicy drama tbh.

... "juicy drama". By the good Lord, everything this admin has done is just another soap opera episode to you?

It's a cute way to dismiss the gravity of what a disastrous incompetence plagues the White House right now.

[Petrasylvania]

Seems to be growing consideration that VP Pence might be the author of the op-ed that was sent into NYT this morning, given the use of a rare word: ''Lodestar'', which is supposedly common among the VP's vernacular for the last several decades. If true, it's an interesting turn of events. A VP and White House staff working together to control Trump's impulses and avoid catastrophe.

A contrasting rumor is that someone included "lodestar" to throw suspicion on Pence and ruin any potential 2020 run.

[The South Falls]

Seems to be growing consideration that VP Pence might be the author of the op-ed that was sent into NYT this morning, given the use of a rare word: ''Lodestar'', which is supposedly common among the VP's vernacular for the last several decades. If true, it's an interesting turn of events. A VP and White House staff working together to control Trump's impulses and avoid catastrophe.

That would be an odd thing for a vice president to do. Although, if it is him, he'd fly under the radar. He seems loyal.

[Dahon]

I'm talking about his extramarital affairs, ties to organised crime and ineffectiveness against Russia.

Not impeachable, false, and you'd like to see the earth nuked too?

[Lady Scylla]

Seems to be growing consideration that VP Pence might be the author of the op-ed that was sent into NYT this morning, given the use of a rare word: ''Lodestar'', which is supposedly common among the VP's vernacular for the last several decades. If true, it's an interesting turn of events. A VP and White House staff working together to control Trump's impulses and avoid catastrophe.

A contrasting rumor is that someone included "lodestar" to throw suspicion on Pence and ruin any potential 2020 run.

It's a possibility. I'd happily take Pence at this point over Trump. I'd take Bush back over Trump at this point. At least the former was humorous.

[Albrenia]

So Trump wants the author of the article 'turned over' to the government.

If he wasn't so incompetent that sort of language would be scary.

[Dahon]

A contrasting rumor is that someone included "lodestar" to throw suspicion on Pence and ruin any potential 2020 run.

It's a possibility. I'd happily take Pence at this point over Trump. I'd take Bush back over Trump at this point. At least the former was humorous.

Hell, I'll take Nixon back over Trump at this point -- he resigned after all.

[The South Falls]

A contrasting rumor is that someone included "lodestar" to throw suspicion on Pence and ruin any potential 2020 run.

It's a possibility. I'd happily take Pence at this point over Trump. I'd take Bush back over Trump at this point. At least the former was humorous.

Bush's hatred for vegetables endeared him to Americans everywhere. Alas, screaming MJ's "I want you back" from the roof can't even do that.

[Petrasylvania]

It's a possibility. I'd happily take Pence at this point over Trump. I'd take Bush back over Trump at this point. At least the former was humorous.

Hell, I'll take Nixon back over Trump at this point -- he resigned after all.

Back in Nixon's days the whole Republican Party wasn't trying to cover the President's ass and demand the special investigation end.

[Lady Scylla]

It's a possibility. I'd happily take Pence at this point over Trump. I'd take Bush back over Trump at this point. At least the former was humorous.

Bush's hatred for vegetables endeared him to Americans everywhere. Alas, screaming MJ's "I want you back" from the roof can't even do that.

Also, glorious shoe dodger.

[Albrenia]

It's a possibility. I'd happily take Pence at this point over Trump. I'd take Bush back over Trump at this point. At least the former was humorous.

Hell, I'll take Nixon back over Trump at this point -- he resigned after all.

It's very telling when Nixon is a more honourable alternative since he at least resigned eventually.

I don't think Trump would ever do that, except perhaps in some overblown 'you don't deserve me anyway!' tantrum.

[The South Falls]

Bush's hatred for vegetables endeared him to Americans everywhere. Alas, screaming MJ's "I want you back" from the roof can't even do that.

Also, glorious shoe dodger.

Bush. The second funniest.


Ford falling down and eating a tamale with the shell on is #1.

[Dahon]

So going over Trump's recent tweets after days of forcing myself to not check it, I'm... intrigued by this:

Does the so-called “Senior Administration Official” really exist, or is it just the Failing New York Times with another phony source? If the GUTLESS anonymous person does indeed exist, the Times must, for National Security purposes, turn him/her over to government at once!

Can you even arrest and try a government official for opposing policies in a schizoid manner?