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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:41 pm

Freezic Vast wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Mike Pence takes charge and pardons Trump. All is well with the nation once more.

And... we'd become a modern day equivalent of what the 1970s were like.

Who will be the new Carter?
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Postby Freezic Vast » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:42 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:And... we'd become a modern day equivalent of what the 1970s were like.

Who will be the new Carter?

:shrug: IDK, all I know is it's all downhill from here until 2024 at best.

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Postby Sick Jumps » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:42 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:And... we'd become a modern day equivalent of what the 1970s were like.

Who will be the new Carter?

Some Bernie Sanders-style populist, maybe.

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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:45 pm

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Outer Sparta wrote:Well just Jefferson, how is Monticello?

As lovely as Ms. Hemin--
Ahem, back on topic...
Does anyone think Trump will have a strong challenger in the next GOP primary?

Not likely, considering his extreme popularity with the GOP. Any moderate candidate for the GOP would get crushed.
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Postby Sick Jumps » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:45 pm

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Sick Jumps wrote:The scenario would be something like:

The Democrats take the House in 2018. Explosive allegations eventually come to light as a result of the investigation. The Democrats impeach Trump, igniting a political crisis and bringing the fight into the Senate (which is narrowly held by Republicans). The country is consumed by scandal.

Mike Pence takes charge and pardons Trump. All is well with the nation once more.

You gotta get Trump out of office first. I don't think he would resign, so the Senate would need to convict him. That requires a two-thirds vote, which may not be possible to pull off.
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Postby Sovaal » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:47 pm

Sick Jumps wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Who will be the new Carter?

Some Bernie Sanders-style populist, maybe.

That'd mean they'd be popular though, last I checked the pseudo-socialists haven't been doing to well.

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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:47 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:As lovely as Ms. Hemin--
Ahem, back on topic...
Does anyone think Trump will have a strong challenger in the next GOP primary?

Not likely, considering his extreme popularity with the GOP. Any moderate candidate for the GOP would get crushed.

Despite that, I think it's important for someone in the GOP to try and pose a challenge.
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Postby Geneviev » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:47 pm

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Sick Jumps wrote:No, he's obscenely popular with the Republican base. The only way that could happen (IMO) is if things really go off the rails with the Mueller investigation.

I don't think even that. The Republican Party is more of cult now if anything...

No, no it's not.
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Postby Ism » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:48 pm

Sick Jumps wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Mike Pence takes charge and pardons Trump. All is well with the nation once more.

You gotta get Trump out of office first. I don't think he would resign, so the Senate would need to convict him. That requires a two-thirds vote, which may not be possible to pull out.


And it’s not like all was well before he got in office. He’s just a very, very loud symptom of a greater illness.

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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:49 pm

Ism wrote:
Sick Jumps wrote:You gotta get Trump out of office first. I don't think he would resign, so the Senate would need to convict him. That requires a two-thirds vote, which may not be possible to pull out.


And it’s not like all was well before he got in office. He’s just a very, very loud symptom of a greater illness.

I just want President Pence.
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Postby Telconi » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:50 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Ism wrote:
And it’s not like all was well before he got in office. He’s just a very, very loud symptom of a greater illness.

I just want President Pence.


I bet a lot of folks do tbh.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:50 pm

Sick Jumps wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Mike Pence takes charge and pardons Trump. All is well with the nation once more.

You gotta get Trump out of office first. I don't think he would resign, so the Senate would need to convict him. That requires a two-thirds vote, which may not be possible to pull off.

No Republican in the Senate would vote for his conviction, not even the moderates (which they shouldn't even be considered that anyway). Impeachment isn't a working issue for the Democrats because of that.
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Postby Ism » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:50 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Not likely, considering his extreme popularity with the GOP. Any moderate candidate for the GOP would get crushed.

Despite that, I think it's important for someone in the GOP to try and pose a challenge.


I seriously doubt anyone will, wouldn’t want to risk a 21st Century Bull Moose.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:51 pm

Telconi wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:I just want President Pence.


I bet a lot of folks do tbh.


I would happily take that.

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Postby Sovaal » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:51 pm

Ism wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Despite that, I think it's important for someone in the GOP to try and pose a challenge.


I seriously doubt anyone will, wouldn’t want to risk a 21st Century Bull Moose.

Imho we still need to raise Teddy from the dead and put the country back on track.

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Postby Sick Jumps » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:51 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Sick Jumps wrote:You gotta get Trump out of office first. I don't think he would resign, so the Senate would need to convict him. That requires a two-thirds vote, which may not be possible to pull off.

No Republican in the Senate would vote for his conviction, not even the moderates (which they shouldn't even be considered that anyway). Impeachment isn't a working issue for the Democrats because of that.

That's my read on the situation as well. I do think that, under those conditions, a GOP primary challenger of some kind might emerge. I don't think he could beat Trump, but it would be a spectacle.

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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:51 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Ism wrote:
And it’s not like all was well before he got in office. He’s just a very, very loud symptom of a greater illness.

I just want President Pence.

I don’t have enough rubber for that possibility
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:51 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Ism wrote:
And it’s not like all was well before he got in office. He’s just a very, very loud symptom of a greater illness.

I just want President Pence.

As much as how I dislike Pence more than Trump, he would get things done and not be on Twitter all day making fake threats at Iran or something.
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Postby Ism » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:52 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Telconi wrote:
I bet a lot of folks do tbh.


I would happily take that.


I’d rather Pence than Trump, sure, but I wouldn’t be happy about it.

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Postby Geneviev » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:53 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Ism wrote:
And it’s not like all was well before he got in office. He’s just a very, very loud symptom of a greater illness.

I just want President Pence.

No he's worse than President Trump.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:53 pm

Sick Jumps wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:No Republican in the Senate would vote for his conviction, not even the moderates (which they shouldn't even be considered that anyway). Impeachment isn't a working issue for the Democrats because of that.

That's my read on the situation as well. I do think that, under those conditions, a GOP primary challenger of some kind might emerge. I don't think he could beat Trump, but it would be a spectacle.

Who would try and pull that off? Paul Ryan is done for and he's headed for a more lucrative career as a lobbyist for the Heritage Foundation or something.
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Postby Ism » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:53 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Ism wrote:
I seriously doubt anyone will, wouldn’t want to risk a 21st Century Bull Moose.

Imho we still need to raise Teddy from the dead and put the country back on track.


I’d say a zombie doesn’t have the brains to be President but...

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Postby New haven america » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:53 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:I just want President Pence.

As much as how I dislike Pence more than Trump, he would get things done and not be on Twitter all day making fake threats at Iran or something.

Getting things done is the last thing I want out of our current government.

Mainly because whatever they do will only be things that help the rich and powerful, while leaving everyone else out in the rain and mud.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:54 pm

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Sovaal wrote:Imho we still need to raise Teddy from the dead and put the country back on track.


I’d say a zombie doesn’t have the brains to be President but...

We’d make Teddy into a Lich of course
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Postby Geneviev » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:54 pm

New haven america wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:As much as how I dislike Pence more than Trump, he would get things done and not be on Twitter all day making fake threats at Iran or something.

Getting things done is the last thing I want out of our current government.

Mainly because whatever they do will only be things that help the rich and powerful, while leaving everyone else out in the rain and mud.

The rich, powerful, and evangelical.
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