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New haven america
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Postby New haven america » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:36 pm

Telconi wrote:
New haven america wrote:You allowed Trump to get into power.

You're a masochist.


>"You allowed the guy not hell bent on destroying your way of life into power, such a masochist, huehuehue"

Trump's hellbent on ruining the lives of anyone that isn't in the top 5%, most Republicans are.

You're not special, you're not rich nor powerful, so you are useless to him and he'll have no problem ruining your life. Just ask his supporters who are spouses of immigrants he's banned, they're going through some pretty serious buyers remorse right about now.
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Postby Bombadil » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:37 pm

Triassica wrote:
Geneviev wrote:No, no it's not.

Then what am I suppose to call the disturbing devotion to Trump? I haven't seen people so devoted before.


People were pretty devoted to Obama, I think the difference is being being so devoted in the face of someone being a serial liar, cheater, bullshitter and all round bad person.. at least as a US president.

That's especially odd when so many profess to be Christian and stand for the moral order of the US, yet blindly support someone who goes against any value one might theoretically ascribe to Christian belief.
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Postby Telconi » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:37 pm

New haven america wrote:
Telconi wrote:
>"You allowed the guy not hell bent on destroying your way of life into power, such a masochist, huehuehue"

Trump's hellbent on ruining the lives of anyone that isn't in the top 5%, most Republicans are.

You're not special, you're not rich nor powerful, so you are useless to him and he'll have no problem ruining your life. Just ask his supporters who are spouses of immigrants he's banned, they're going through some pretty serious buyers remorse right about now.


But I'm not the spouse of an immigrant. Nor am I an immigrant myself.
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Postby Thanatttynia » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:38 pm

Telconi wrote:
New haven america wrote:Trump's hellbent on ruining the lives of anyone that isn't in the top 5%, most Republicans are.

You're not special, you're not rich nor powerful, so you are useless to him and he'll have no problem ruining your life. Just ask his supporters who are spouses of immigrants he's banned, they're going through some pretty serious buyers remorse right about now.


But I'm not the spouse of an immigrant. Nor am I an immigrant myself.

You don't care about how immigrants are treated?
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Postby New haven america » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:39 pm

Sovaal wrote:
New haven america wrote:You allowed Trump to get into power.

You're a masochist.

1.Does that mean that Bernie supporters are masochists? 2. How about the British and French populations where masochists for not stopping the Reich sooner?

1. Yes, considering Bernie actively told them to vote for Hillary, but instead, they chose to cut their nose to spite their face.
2. No, they were choosing to believe and living under the illusion that Germany wouldn't go after them. They were more disconnected from reality than masochists.
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Postby Triassica » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:40 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Triassica wrote:Then what am I suppose to call the disturbing devotion to Trump? I haven't seen people so devoted before.


People were pretty devoted to Obama, I think the difference is being being so devoted in the face of someone being a serial liar, cheater, bullshitter and all round bad person.. at least as a US president.

That's especially odd when so many profess to be Christian and stand for the moral order of the US, yet blindly support someone who goes against any value one might theoretically ascribe to Christian belief.

At least Obama was a good speaker and had a pretty face...
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Postby New haven america » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:40 pm

Telconi wrote:
New haven america wrote:Trump's hellbent on ruining the lives of anyone that isn't in the top 5%, most Republicans are.

You're not special, you're not rich nor powerful, so you are useless to him and he'll have no problem ruining your life. Just ask his supporters who are spouses of immigrants he's banned, they're going through some pretty serious buyers remorse right about now.


But I'm not the spouse of an immigrant. Nor am I an immigrant myself.

Nice red herring.

I won't say "I told you so" when he wrecks your life, because I'm better than that.
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Postby Sovaal » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:41 pm

New haven america wrote:
Sovaal wrote:1.Does that mean that Bernie supporters are masochists? 2. How about the British and French populations where masochists for not stopping the Reich sooner?

1. Yes, considering Bernie actively told them to vote for Hillary, but instead, they chose to cut their nose to spite their face.
2. No, they were choosing to believe and living under the illusion that Germany wouldn't go after them. They were more disconnected from reality than masochists.

Alrighty then....
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Postby Telconi » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:47 pm

Thanatttynia wrote:
Telconi wrote:
But I'm not the spouse of an immigrant. Nor am I an immigrant myself.

You don't care about how immigrants are treated?


Oh, look, something I didn't say.

New haven america wrote:
Telconi wrote:
But I'm not the spouse of an immigrant. Nor am I an immigrant myself.

Nice red herring.

I won't say "I told you so" when he wrecks your life, because I'm better than that.


You brought it up.

I find it less likely he will "wreck my life".

>Better than that. :rofl:
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Postby New haven america » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:48 pm

Telconi wrote:
Thanatttynia wrote:You don't care about how immigrants are treated?


Oh, look, something I didn't say.

New haven america wrote:Nice red herring.

I won't say "I told you so" when he wrecks your life, because I'm better than that.


You brought it up.

I find it less likely he will "wreck my life".

>Batter than that.

He will, you're not rich nor powerful, you are unimportant to him.

He doesn't care about you.
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Postby Sovaal » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:49 pm

New haven america wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Oh, look, something I didn't say.



You brought it up.

I find it less likely he will "wreck my life".

>Batter than that.

He will, you're not rich nor powerful, you are unimportant to him.

As is everyone else to anyone of standing. What next, the sky is blue?
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Triassica » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:50 pm

New haven america wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Oh, look, something I didn't say.



You brought it up.

I find it less likely he will "wreck my life".

>Batter than that.

He will, you're not rich nor powerful, you are unimportant to him.

He doesn't care about you.

And the Republican Congress will do it for kicks...
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Postby New haven america » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:51 pm

Sovaal wrote:
New haven america wrote:He will, you're not rich nor powerful, you are unimportant to him.

As is everyone else to anyone of standing.

I never stated they weren't.

However, I choose to go with people who's actions have actually helped those under them, not made their lives worse.
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Postby Sovaal » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:52 pm

New haven america wrote:
Sovaal wrote:As is everyone else to anyone of standing.

I never stated they weren't.

However, I choose to go with people who's actions have actually helped those under them, not made their lives worse.

Well I've yet to have seen those actions. Just my experience, however.
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"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:52 pm

New haven america wrote:I won't say "I told you so" when he wrecks your life, because I'm better than that.


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Postby Oil exporting People » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:53 pm

Turkey and China have both been, for lack of a better term, hammered by the U.S. this year. Combined with Trump's stance on Japan, I wonder how much influence George Friedman's geopolitical thinking has had on Trump; we know back in 2012 Mitt Romney was reading up on his thinking. I personally own The Next 100 Years and The Next Decade, with Friedman largely being right with incredible accuracy so far.
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Postby US-SSR » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:54 pm

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Democrats sweep both houses in 2018. The Mueller investigation finds "smoking gun" evidence of consipracy reaching into the GOP leadership to work with Russian intelligence to gaff the 2016 election, including VP Pence's "vetting" of Mike Flynn. Pence is impeached, convicted and removed from office. Trump nominates Jerrod as VP but, lacking a Senate majority, he cannot be confirmed. Trump is impeached, convicted and removed from office; since there is no VP the Democrat Speaker of the House is sworn in as President. The Senate rejects Jerrod as VP and the new President, former Speaker, nominates...wait for it...Hillary Clinton. Clinton is confirmed as VP by the Democratic Senate. The new President, former Speaker, resigns, Hillary becomes President, names Kane as her VP, the will of the American people as expressed at the ballot box on November 8, 2016 is fulfilled, the Russian attempt to interfere in the election of the highest office in the power of the US to bestow is thwarted, the US rejoins the community of Western democracies and once again the day is saved!

About as juvenile as any policy proposal out of Steven Miller's WH office I know. But one can dream...


Jesus Christ. Clinton as VP is absolutely horrendous. If the dems want to win the presidential elections in 2018 they better not put support her in the damn ballot or it will be 2016 all over again.


Not VP, President after the quondam Speaker resigns the Presidency. Three million more people than her opponent didn't think that would be horrendous at all.
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Postby Telconi » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:54 pm

New haven america wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Oh, look, something I didn't say.



You brought it up.

I find it less likely he will "wreck my life".

>Batter than that.

He will, you're not rich nor powerful, you are unimportant to him.

He doesn't care about you.


I'll take indifference over maliciousness any day of the week.
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Postby New haven america » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:55 pm

Telconi wrote:
New haven america wrote:He will, you're not rich nor powerful, you are unimportant to him.

He doesn't care about you.


I'll take indifference over maliciousness any day of the week.

Obviously not. :rofl:
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Postby New haven america » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:56 pm

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
New haven america wrote:I won't say "I told you so" when he wrecks your life, because I'm better than that.


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I'd cover that up, you're insecurity is showing.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:57 pm

New haven america wrote:
Sovaal wrote:As is everyone else to anyone of standing.

I never stated they weren't.

However, I choose to go with people who's actions have actually helped those under them, not made their lives worse.


Afaik Telconi's situation got noticeably worse under Obama than Trump.
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Postby Oil exporting People » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:57 pm

Also, given the fantasy political scenarios, I'd like to point out that if the Dems do get their own in the Oval and the expected recession hits....
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:57 pm

New haven america wrote:
FelrikTheDeleted wrote:

I'd cover that up, you're insecurity is showing.


What does this reply even mean?
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Postby Telconi » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:00 pm

New haven america wrote:
Telconi wrote:
I'll take indifference over maliciousness any day of the week.

Obviously not. :rofl:


My vote didn't magically change to Clinton since I last told you it wasn't for her...
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Postby Sovaal » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:00 pm

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
New haven america wrote:I'd cover that up, you're insecurity is showing.


What does this reply even mean?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Honestly they've gone off on a tangent long ago.
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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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