
Valrifell wrote:
Deeply frustrating that he claims vindication for not seeing "collusion" in a heavily redacted recommendation to the court, even moreso that people buy this shit.
Because sometimes even national leaders just want to hang out
https://forum.nationstates.net/
Valrifell wrote:
Deeply frustrating that he claims vindication for not seeing "collusion" in a heavily redacted recommendation to the court, even moreso that people buy this shit.
Major-Tom wrote:
Just as I was starting to lose focus/interest in the probe, it appears we've seen some bombshells this past week or two. I'm quite intrigued to see how this will end.
Major-Tom wrote:Petrasylvania wrote:Mueller is professional. Not trying to get attention with the probe.
Its' still been a highly political, highly polarizing probe. There's always going to be attention directed towards it, both from supporters and adamant opponents. I myself lost focus with it because it seemed to be moving at a snail's pace. I recognize that the probe was never meant to be particularly swift and fast-moving, but whenever substantive information comes from Mueller's probe, it's always something of a pleasant surprise for me.
Major-Tom wrote:
Just as I was starting to lose focus/interest in the probe, it appears we've seen some bombshells this past week or two. I'm quite intrigued to see how this will end.
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Yeah, Austria-Hungary and Germany were just trying to create a European army. That’s the sole reason for both wars. And it didn’t work out, so that’s game over I guess.
Shall we tell him how nationalism worked out for Europe?
Thermodolia wrote:Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Yeah, Austria-Hungary and Germany were just trying to create a European army. That’s the sole reason for both wars. And it didn’t work out, so that’s game over I guess.
Shall we tell him how nationalism worked out for Europe?
Depends. Nationalism is how several nations came about like Italy and Poland
Major-Tom wrote:Petrasylvania wrote:Mueller is professional. Not trying to get attention with the probe.
Its' still been a highly political, highly polarizing probe. There's always going to be attention directed towards it, both from supporters and adamant opponents. I myself lost focus with it because it seemed to be moving at a snail's pace. I recognize that the probe was never meant to be particularly swift and fast-moving, but whenever substantive information comes from Mueller's probe, it's always something of a pleasant surprise for me.
Vassenor wrote:...what did I miss?)
Vassenor wrote:...what did I miss?)
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Thermodolia wrote:Depends. Nationalism is how several nations came about like Italy and Poland
Of course. But 19th century nationalism is a profoundly different ideology from 20th century nationalism. 19th century nationalism was about a shared culture, language and history, and creating a nation around that. Literally nation-building, nationalism as opposed to imperialism and anarchism. 19th century nationalism was profoundly liberal, in the sense that nationalists sought to codify national laws and create a constitution, empowering parliaments to speak on behalf of the nation as opposed to foreign dynasts.
20th century nationalism is an extension of 19th century nationalism. It's about a mythical past that unites the nation, but is also marred by views of exceptionalism. The idea that the own nation is the best nation, and that outsiders should be barred. A national union based on the exclusion of others, and a national will not communicated through a parliament and codification of rules, but translated and heralded by a single leader speaking on behalf of the people, with disdain for a constitution and national parliaments. I have much respect for the nationalist movements of the 19th century, but I feel that the term has been marred by the 20th century movements.