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Postby Telconi » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:44 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:And Donnie has a record for lying under oath, even better.


Lying is his default setting.


I don't think truthfulness factors in one way or the other.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:33 am

I'm sure we're all abreast of the lame duck House calling Google to appear before them because if you do an image search of idiot you get a punch of pictures of Trump. Reads like one of those 'court reporter' lists of crazy exchanges, including Steve King complaining about his iPhone to Google. This response, also good.
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Postby Tarsonis » Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:36 am

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/carava ... giPDRFcPP8


I have a feeling we're gonna go with C.... "$50,000 will be donated in each of their names to the Trump Border wall fund."
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Postby Bombadil » Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:41 am

Tarsonis wrote:https://www.foxnews.com/politics/caravan-migrants-in-mexico-demand-trump-either-let-them-in-u-s-or-pay-them-50000-each-to-go-back-home?fbclid=IwAR2w17cOYZrcMzwAwR_s7iFjz8jbouZy5NMUQ_0O49F7m8egjgiPDRFcPP8


I have a feeling we're gonna go with C.... "$50,000 will be donated in each of their names to the Trump Border wall fund."


Thank god mexico will pay for it.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:47 am

Tarsonis wrote:https://www.foxnews.com/politics/caravan-migrants-in-mexico-demand-trump-either-let-them-in-u-s-or-pay-them-50000-each-to-go-back-home?fbclid=IwAR2w17cOYZrcMzwAwR_s7iFjz8jbouZy5NMUQ_0O49F7m8egjgiPDRFcPP8


I have a feeling we're gonna go with C.... "$50,000 will be donated in each of their names to the Trump Border wall fund."

Trump isn't known for following through on promises to donate money.
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Postby Tarsonis » Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:48 am

Ifreann wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:https://www.foxnews.com/politics/caravan-migrants-in-mexico-demand-trump-either-let-them-in-u-s-or-pay-them-50000-each-to-go-back-home?fbclid=IwAR2w17cOYZrcMzwAwR_s7iFjz8jbouZy5NMUQ_0O49F7m8egjgiPDRFcPP8


I have a feeling we're gonna go with C.... "$50,000 will be donated in each of their names to the Trump Border wall fund."

Trump isn't known for following through on promises to donate money.


I suppose there's option D then, Call the Brute Squad.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:56 am

Tarsonis wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Trump isn't known for following through on promises to donate money.


I suppose there's option D then, Call the Brute Squad.

CBP are already there.
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Postby Trumptonium1 » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:06 am

Ifreann wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:https://www.foxnews.com/politics/caravan-migrants-in-mexico-demand-trump-either-let-them-in-u-s-or-pay-them-50000-each-to-go-back-home?fbclid=IwAR2w17cOYZrcMzwAwR_s7iFjz8jbouZy5NMUQ_0O49F7m8egjgiPDRFcPP8


I have a feeling we're gonna go with C.... "$50,000 will be donated in each of their names to the Trump Border wall fund."

Trump isn't known for following through on promises to donate money.


At least he isn't known for accepting money from wife floggers.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:08 am

Trumptonium1 wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Trump isn't known for following through on promises to donate money.


At least he isn't known for accepting money from wife floggers.

I imagine he accepts money from anyone.
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Postby Trumptonium1 » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:09 am

Ifreann wrote:
Trumptonium1 wrote:
At least he isn't known for accepting money from wife floggers.

I imagine he accepts money from anyone.


But doesn't ride a high horse :)
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:10 am

Trumptonium1 wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I imagine he accepts money from anyone.


But doesn't ride a high horse :)

Because his horse is dead.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:13 am

Ifreann wrote:
Trumptonium1 wrote:
But doesn't ride a high horse :)

Because his horse is dead.


So that's where Trump Steaks came from.
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Postby Trumptonium1 » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:13 am

Ifreann wrote:
Trumptonium1 wrote:
But doesn't ride a high horse :)

Because his horse is dead.


If recent events are anything to go by, I presume that's Antifa's fault for rioting against democracy.

Or maybe PETA for liberating domesticated animals to heaven. Although the horse cooperated with Trump, and Trump is Hitler, and Hitler is in hell, so we know the horse must have gone there too.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:26 am

Trumptonium1 wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Because his horse is dead.


If recent events are anything to go by, I presume that's Antifa's fault for rioting against democracy.

Or maybe PETA for liberating domesticated animals to heaven. Although the horse cooperated with Trump, and Trump is Hitler, and Hitler is in hell, so we know the horse must have gone there too.

His horse died of old age, but it was a close thing after Trump insisted that the horse work after becoming infected with a virus, which caused him to get sick and require hoof amputation to save his life, ending poor DJ Trump's racing career before it even started, and just as bad, leaving him with the name "DJ Trump".
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Postby Tobleste » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:28 am

Corrian wrote:Haha Schumer and Pelosi are so done.


He publicly admitted he'd take the blame for shutting down the government. Master negotiator my ass.
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Postby Zurkerx » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:40 am

Tobleste wrote:
Corrian wrote:Haha Schumer and Pelosi are so done.


He publicly admitted he'd take the blame for shutting down the government. Master negotiator my ass.


It's quite clear he's hoping that others don't noticed this and the GOP majority, and that Democrats will be blamed for holding the government hostage. I don't see it working out.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:52 am

Tobleste wrote:
Corrian wrote:Haha Schumer and Pelosi are so done.


He publicly admitted he'd take the blame for shutting down the government. Master negotiator my ass.

A very stable genius.
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Postby Corrian » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:58 am

Zurkerx wrote:
Tobleste wrote:
He publicly admitted he'd take the blame for shutting down the government. Master negotiator my ass.


It's quite clear he's hoping that others don't noticed this and the GOP majority, and that Democrats will be blamed for holding the government hostage. I don't see it working out.

That;s why they wanted him to straight up say he wants it shut down.
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Postby Zurkerx » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:02 am

Oh, and there's this too:

Incoming NY AG plans wide-ranging investigations into Trump/his family

I can see how both sides feel about this. For Trump supporters, they feel this could be a "witch hunt" designed to bring down Trump and invalid his election victory. The other side feels they must do everything to take down Trump at whatever cost. My pragmatic take: while some investigations into him maybe silly, others are serious and serve as a necessary thing. Do they have to investigate him on every single thing to make his life miserable? Of course not, but it seems some of these investigations serve as a back up in the event Trump fires Mueller.

Now, it would be nice to re-examine the Clinton Email Scandal on the basis of being fair (she was, after all, negligent), but the President, I'm pretty sure, can order an investigation anytime he wants? (I'm not 100% sure on that part). But it seems the GOP is more keen on beating a dead horse rather than bring justice considering they wouldn't have said scapegoat to go to.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1072836035514634240

Now, I wasn't the biggest fan of the Iran Deal, but the $150 billion figure is considered the highest estimate (most peg it between $75-100 billion) and the fact it's Iran's assets, not US Taxpayer dollars. Once again, construing the facts.
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Postby Tobleste » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:42 am

Zurkerx wrote:
Tobleste wrote:
He publicly admitted he'd take the blame for shutting down the government. Master negotiator my ass.


It's quite clear he's hoping that others don't noticed this and the GOP majority, and that Democrats will be blamed for holding the government hostage. I don't see it working out.


True, his voters will not blame him if the government shuts down; his voters don't hold him responsible for his own words. Independents might though and they're who cost him the house. In 2020, they may cost him the White House.
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Postby Alvecia » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:55 am

Ifreann wrote:
Tobleste wrote:
He publicly admitted he'd take the blame for shutting down the government. Master negotiator my ass.

A very stable genius.

It's where he keeps the dead horse

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Postby Telconi » Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:04 am

Tobleste wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
It's quite clear he's hoping that others don't noticed this and the GOP majority, and that Democrats will be blamed for holding the government hostage. I don't see it working out.


True, his voters will not blame him if the government shuts down; his voters don't hold him responsible for his own words. Independents might though and they're who cost him the house. In 2020, they may cost him the White House.


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Postby Tobleste » Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:06 am

Telconi wrote:
Tobleste wrote:
True, his voters will not blame him if the government shuts down; his voters don't hold him responsible for his own words. Independents might though and they're who cost him the house. In 2020, they may cost him the White House.


It takes two to tango...


It only takes one to stop both from doing it.
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Postby Tarsonis » Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:11 am

Tobleste wrote:
Telconi wrote:
It takes two to tango...


It only takes one to stop both from doing it.


Unless it’s the Taskers.
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