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Vassenor
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:03 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
With regards to environment, you've elected to ignore the current scientific consensus under the notion that paradigm shifts happen. Clearly no amount of facts or logic will help here considering you've granted yourself a mechanism to handwave that.

All of this still doesn't change the fact that this argument is you trying to cast me in a particular role to justify how you can support Reps here with the wall while bemoaning the loss of compromise.


No I’ve ignore the consensus because the concensus isn’t proof of anything. 1000 years ago everyone thought Galen’s humors was “settled science”. The one guy who knows it’s bullshit doesn’t still practice it just because everyone else says so.


1,500 years ago, everybody knew that the Earth was the center of the universe. 500 years ago, everybody knew that the Earth was flat. And 15 minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow.
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Postby Telconi » Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:13 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
No I’ve ignore the consensus because the concensus isn’t proof of anything. 1000 years ago everyone thought Galen’s humors was “settled science”. The one guy who knows it’s bullshit doesn’t still practice it just because everyone else says so.


1,500 years ago, everybody knew that the Earth was the center of the universe. 500 years ago, everybody knew that the Earth was flat. And 15 minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow.


I know that quotes from Men in Black aren't compelling arguments...
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:14 pm

Telconi wrote:
Vassenor wrote:


I know that quotes from Men in Black aren't compelling arguments...


But the idea that just because science has changed before we should reject models we don't like out of hand is?
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Postby Communist Xomaniax » Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:17 pm

Telconi wrote:These suggestions become policies, these policies become bills. These bills suck.

Can you give an example of a bill meant to target climate change that you wouldn't think sucks?
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Postby Jerzylvania » Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:19 pm

Trump says he's proud to shutdown gov't to Schumer and Pelosi in rancorous Oval Office meeting

I gave never seen anything like this between a POTUS and legislators from opposing party. Truly astounding. Does 45 even understand the legislative process? Negotiation? The art of... oh, right! :eyebrow:
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:56 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:Trump says he's proud to shutdown gov't to Schumer and Pelosi in rancorous Oval Office meeting

I gave never seen anything like this between a POTUS and legislators from opposing party. Truly astounding. Does 45 even understand the legislative process? Negotiation? The art of... oh, right! :eyebrow:

Donnie's entire Presidency alternates between imagining he's still on WWE and wailing about how Mean Old Bob Mueller wants to burn him at the stake.
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Postby Telconi » Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:57 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Telconi wrote:
I know that quotes from Men in Black aren't compelling arguments...


But the idea that just because science has changed before we should reject models we don't like out of hand is?


You sure spend a lot of time with that straw for someone who gets upset about things you didn't say...
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Postby Corrian » Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:59 pm

God, Trump repeats himself so much.
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Postby Corrian » Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:03 pm

Oh boy, reminder Trump doesn't even know how the government works.

Yeah, I'm watching the Pelosi, Schumer, and Trump thing.
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Postby Corrian » Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:08 pm

Haha Schumer and Pelosi are so done.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:27 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:Trump says he's proud to shutdown gov't to Schumer and Pelosi in rancorous Oval Office meeting

I have never seen anything like this between a POTUS and legislators from opposing party. Truly astounding. Does 45 even understand the legislative process? Negotiation? The art of... oh, right! :eyebrow:

Donnie's entire Presidency alternates between imagining he's still on WWE and wailing about how Mean Old Bob Mueller wants to burn him at the stake.


To all seventh and eighth graders' delight. Most of us older kids want to see him just float off somewhere never to be seen or heard from again. Unfortunately, that only happens after leaving Pence and McConnell in charge.
Donald Trump has no clue as to what "insuring the domestic tranquility" means

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Corrian
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Postby Corrian » Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:57 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Donnie's entire Presidency alternates between imagining he's still on WWE and wailing about how Mean Old Bob Mueller wants to burn him at the stake.


To all seventh and eighth graders' delight. Most of us older kids want to see him just float off somewhere never to be seen or heard from again. Unfortunately, that only happens after leaving Pence and McConnell in charge.

Most of you "Older kids" voted for Trump.
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Jerzylvania
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Postby Jerzylvania » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:01 pm

Corrian wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
To all seventh and eighth graders' delight. Most of us older kids want to see him just float off somewhere never to be seen or heard from again. Unfortunately, that only happens after leaving Pence and McConnell in charge.

Most of you "Older kids" voted for Trump.


Only the home schooled ones. :p
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Corrian
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Postby Corrian » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:02 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Corrian wrote:Most of you "Older kids" voted for Trump.


Only the home schooled ones. :p

Wow, I didn't realize that many people were home schooled.

Also the concept of "You're home schooled so you voted for Trump" is also idiotic.
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Telconi
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Postby Telconi » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:03 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Corrian wrote:Most of you "Older kids" voted for Trump.


Only the home schooled ones. :p


I thought you were against home schooling...
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Postby Jerzylvania » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:09 pm

Corrian wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
Only the home schooled ones. :p

Wow, I didn't realize that many people were home schooled.

Also the concept of "You're home schooled so you voted for Trump" is also idiotic.


That was the point to your original post. You see, all voters are older than 8th grades. ALL OF THEM. Most of them did not vote for Trump. :p
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Postby Jerzylvania » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:10 pm

Telconi wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
Only the home schooled ones. :p


I thought you were against home schooling...


Easy scarecrow.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:19 pm

Corrian wrote:Haha Schumer and Pelosi are so done.

I thought righties wanted Pelosi around.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby Telconi » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:24 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Corrian wrote:Haha Schumer and Pelosi are so done.

I thought righties wanted Pelosi around.


You are, predictably, incorrect.

And when did Corrian become one of the "righties"?
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Postby Corrian » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:24 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Corrian wrote:Haha Schumer and Pelosi are so done.

I thought righties wanted Pelosi around.

Lemme correct, "Haha Schumer and Pelosi are so done with Trump's shit"
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:30 pm

Corrian wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:I thought righties wanted Pelosi around.

Lemme correct, "Haha Schumer and Pelosi are so done with Trump's shit"

January will tell.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby Jerzylvania » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:55 pm

Corrian wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:I thought righties wanted Pelosi around.

Lemme correct, "Haha Schumer and Pelosi are so done with Trump's shit"


Haha Clinton-Dix called and wants his name back.
Donald Trump has no clue as to what "insuring the domestic tranquility" means

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Postby Jerzylvania » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:58 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Corrian wrote:Lemme correct, "Haha Schumer and Pelosi are so done with Trump's shit"

January will tell.


And the totally best shit will be told under oath. ;)

Hope it's on live TV. *buys ten pounds of popcorn online*
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:02 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:January will tell.


And the totally best shit will be told under oath. ;)

Hope it's on live TV. *buys ten pounds of popcorn online*

And Donnie has a record for lying under oath, even better.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

New Flag Courtesy of The Realist Polities

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Postby Jerzylvania » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:05 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
And the totally best shit will be told under oath. ;)

Hope it's on live TV. *buys ten pounds of popcorn online*

And Donnie has a record for lying under oath, even better.


Lying is his default setting.
Donald Trump has no clue as to what "insuring the domestic tranquility" means

The Baltimore Orioles are shocking the baseball world!

Jerzylvania is the NFL Picks League Champion in 2018 and in 2020 as puppet Traffic Signal and AGAIN in 2023 as puppet Joe Munchkin !!!

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