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Telconi wrote:

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Yes. Quite. At least, in scale. Obama received similar (or even greater) intensity of negativity, but Trump's criticism is more wide-spread. This, however, is because he is one of worst presidents, at least in living memory.

I'm pretty sure we were both alive for Barry...

What did Obama do to make you have less guns?

Loben wrote:

Petrasylvania wrote:So you want a junta.

more like an army with a state.

So... basically a junta.

Fartsniffage wrote:

Telconi wrote:
I'm pretty sure we were both alive for Barry...

What did Obama do to make you have less guns?

Import restrictions of Russian arms without a """"sporting purpose""""

Valrifell wrote:

Loben wrote:
more like an army with a state.

Friendly reminder that Prussia no longer exists at all, so.

Prussia was a fluke that died an unnecessary death at the hands of germany's post great war political structuring.

could be said that germany *also* died with it.

Valgora wrote:

Loben wrote:
more like an army with a state.

So... basically a junta.

armed republic, junta, same end goal.

Loben wrote:

Valgora wrote:So... basically a junta.

armed republic, junta, same end goal.

So your end goal is a military dictatorship?

Valgora wrote:

Loben wrote:
armed republic, junta, same end goal.

So your end goal is a military dictatorship?

better then becoming a second europe.

Loben wrote:

Valgora wrote:So... basically a junta.

armed republic, junta, same end goal.

So... that's a yes on the military dictatorship front is what you're saying.

Telconi wrote:

Fartsniffage wrote:
What did Obama do to make you have less guns?

Import restrictions of Russian arms without a """"sporting purpose""""

International controls on imports and exports are cool according to Trump. Has he relaxed the the import of Russian firearms?

Loben wrote:

Valgora wrote:So your end goal is a military dictatorship?

better then becoming a second europe.

Europe is the way it is in no small part because of militaristic dictatorships lol

Loben wrote:

Valgora wrote:So your end goal is a military dictatorship?

better then becoming a second europe.

So you think that becoming a military dictatorship along with the likely destruction of our rights is better than becoming anything like Europe?

Senkaku wrote:

Loben wrote:
better then becoming a second europe.

Europe is the way it is in no small part because of militaristic dictatorships lol

its more of a reaction after them

Aversion to military service, outright disdain for the personnel and purposeful incompetence in procurement.

Valgora wrote:

Loben wrote:
better then becoming a second europe.

So you think that becoming a military dictatorship along with the likely destruction of our rights is better than becoming anything like Europe?

in a roundabout way perhaps.

Loben wrote:

Valgora wrote:So you think that becoming a military dictatorship along with the likely destruction of our rights is better than becoming anything like Europe?

in a roundabout way perhaps.

At least I know for sure that you don't like freedom.

Valgora wrote:

Loben wrote:
in a roundabout way perhaps.

At least I know for sure that you don't like freedom.

sure i do. Freedom from European style governance.

Valgora wrote:

Loben wrote:
in a roundabout way perhaps.

At least I know for sure that you don't like freedom.

How's that?

Telconi wrote:

Valgora wrote:At least I know for sure that you don't like freedom.

How's that?

He wants a military dictatorship.
A military dictatorship would likely jeopardize our rights and freedoms.
But he's fine with that so long as we don't become anything like Europe.

Therefore, he doesn't like freedom.

Loben wrote:

Valgora wrote:At least I know for sure that you don't like freedom.

sure i do. Freedom from European style governance.

So why does America need to be freed from Representative Democracy?

Loben wrote:

Valrifell wrote:
Friendly reminder that Prussia no longer exists at all, so.

Prussia was a fluke that died an unnecessary death at the hands of germany's post great war political structuring.

could be said that germany *also* died with it.

Prussia still existed as a state of the Weimar Republic, and her importance was re-elevated by the Nazis. One of the stipulations of the Treaty of Paris, iirc, was that Germany dissolve Prussia as a legal entity in its entirety, because Prussian militarism so easily helped the Nazis stoke the national tempers and take power.

Valrifell wrote:

Loben wrote:
Prussia was a fluke that died an unnecessary death at the hands of germany's post great war political structuring.

could be said that germany *also* died with it.

Prussia still existed as a state of the Weimar Republic, and her importance was re-elevated by the Nazis. One of the stipulations of the Treaty of Paris, iirc, was that Germany dissolve Prussia as a legal entity in its entirely, because Prussian militarism so easily helped the Nazis stoke the national tempers and take power.

considering the weimar republic failed.....

Valrifell wrote:

Loben wrote:
Prussia was a fluke that died an unnecessary death at the hands of germany's post great war political structuring.

could be said that germany *also* died with it.

Prussia still existed as a state of the Weimar Republic, and her importance was re-elevated by the Nazis. One of the stipulations of the Treaty of Paris, iirc, was that Germany dissolve Prussia as a legal entity in its entirety, because Prussian militarism so easily helped the Nazis stoke the national tempers and take power.

But you digress.

Farnhamia wrote:

Valrifell wrote:
Prussia still existed as a state of the Weimar Republic, and her importance was re-elevated by the Nazis. One of the stipulations of the Treaty of Paris, iirc, was that Germany dissolve Prussia as a legal entity in its entirety, because Prussian militarism so easily helped the Nazis stoke the national tempers and take power.

But you digress.

The Prussian issue for Trump comes with a silent 'p'.

Farnhamia wrote:

Valrifell wrote:
Prussia still existed as a state of the Weimar Republic, and her importance was re-elevated by the Nazis. One of the stipulations of the Treaty of Paris, iirc, was that Germany dissolve Prussia as a legal entity in its entirety, because Prussian militarism so easily helped the Nazis stoke the national tempers and take power.

But you digress.

Naturally.

Though tangentially related to that, Trump's admiration of the military appears entirely rhetorical. No action has come from him to actually benefit the soldiers beyond jingoism to rally his base. Which is actually pretty circular considering the military swings conservative more oft than not.

But, anyway, such are signs of a politically stagnant or decaying republic.

Loben wrote:

Senkaku wrote:Europe is the way it is in no small part because of militaristic dictatorships lol

its more of a reaction after them

Aversion to military service, outright disdain for the personnel and purposeful incompetence in procurement.

Yes, I know- what exactly do you think would happen here after our hypothetical one ends?

Loben wrote:

Senkaku wrote:Europe is the way it is in no small part because of militaristic dictatorships lol

its more of a reaction after them

Aversion to military service, outright disdain for the personnel and purposeful incompetence in procurement.

I thought we were talking about Europe, not Trump.