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[Telconi]

Why you always forget your boy Obama?

So when did Obama say that guns should be taken without due process?

January 16, 2013

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

What I'd really like to see are hostile opinion pieces in media Trump consumes, as well as some hostility from even Trumpist diehards, the Jim Ps of the blogosphere and whatnot.

So far, muted. Muted.

Why would they do that? I mean, honestly, give me one good reason why they would attack him.

Because every American is helped by a president who works professionally, instead of using presidential statements to go off on a tirade worth 21 tweets. Presidential statements, even if they don't have legal force on their own, have some legal meaning, and a president should craft them carefully.

[Telconi]

Why would they do that? I mean, honestly, give me one good reason why they would attack him.

Because every American is helped by a president who works professionally, instead of using presidential statements to go off on a tirade worth 21 tweets. Presidential statements, even if they don't have legal force on their own, have some legal meaning, and a president should craft them carefully.

Okay, that's a great argument for why Trump should stop being an ass.

[Dahon]

What I'd really like to see are hostile opinion pieces in media Trump consumes, as well as some hostility from even Trumpist diehards, the Jim Ps of the blogosphere and whatnot.

So far, muted. Muted.

Why would they do that? I mean, honestly, give me one good reason why they would attack him.

Because they're decent people, decent as I am. As I am. Decent as I am.

[Vassenor]

So when did Obama say that guns should be taken without due process?

January 16, 2013

Not seeing anything about taking guns without due process.

Or here.

[Ifreann]

What I'd really like to see are hostile opinion pieces in media Trump consumes, as well as some hostility from even Trumpist diehards, the Jim Ps of the blogosphere and whatnot.

So far, muted. Muted.

Why would they do that? I mean, honestly, give me one good reason why they would attack him.

Can you really not wrap your mind around why journalists, even journalists who support Trump, should be concerned that Trump very openly cares more about money and deals than the lives of journalists? This isn't rocket surgery, you know.

[Petrasylvania]

Why would they do that? I mean, honestly, give me one good reason why they would attack him.

Can you really not wrap your mind around why journalists, even journalists who support Trump, should be concerned that Trump very openly cares more about money and deals than the lives of journalists? This isn't rocket surgery, you know.

Telc has to be contrarian against all libs no matter how basic a point is.

[Telconi]

Why would they do that? I mean, honestly, give me one good reason why they would attack him.

Can you really not wrap your mind around why journalists, even journalists who support Trump, should be concerned that Trump very openly cares more about money and deals than the lives of journalists? This isn't rocket surgery, you know.

It's possible to be concerned and not write it.

[Telconi]

January 16, 2013

Not seeing anything about taking guns without due process.

Or here.

Oh look, Vassenor is incapable of acknowledging Obama's wrongdoing.

"Everybody drink" is the phrase IIRC.

[Liriena]

Not seeing anything about taking guns without due process.

Or here.

Oh look, Vassenor is incapable of acknowledging Obama's wrongdoing.

You have to actually provide proof that it's a wrongdoing if you expect anyone to acknowledge it. Don't be dickish towards Vass for not agreeing with you when you have failed to make a credible case.

[Valrifell]

Not seeing anything about taking guns without due process.

Or here.

Oh look, Vassenor is incapable of acknowledging Obama's wrongdoing.

"Everybody drink" is the phrase IIRC.

Aren't you the one who constantly pulls the "opinions aren't inherently evil" card or something like it?

[Liriena]

Oh look, Vassenor is incapable of acknowledging Obama's wrongdoing.

"Everybody drink" is the phrase IIRC.

Aren't you the one who constantly pulls the "opinions aren't inherently evil" card or something like it?

Telconi being an inconsistent and disingenuous poster?

Everybody drink.

[Telconi]

Oh look, Vassenor is incapable of acknowledging Obama's wrongdoing.

"Everybody drink" is the phrase IIRC.

Aren't you the one who constantly pulls the "opinions aren't inherently evil" card or something like it?

The executive Order signed by Obama factually exists, it's contents are not subjective.

[Vassenor]

Not seeing anything about taking guns without due process.

Or here.

Oh look, Vassenor is incapable of acknowledging Obama's wrongdoing.

"Everybody drink" is the phrase IIRC.

You said Obama called for guns to be taken without due process. I'm asking you to prove that, and you keep refusing.

[Valrifell]

Aren't you the one who constantly pulls the "opinions aren't inherently evil" card or something like it?

The executive Order signed by Obama factually exists, it's contents are not subjective.

Your weirdly gun-based morality system is entirely up for debate, however. Since your assertion that Obama did wrong is based on that, it makes it entirely subjective.

[Telconi]

Oh look, Vassenor is incapable of acknowledging Obama's wrongdoing.

"Everybody drink" is the phrase IIRC.

You said Obama called for guns to be taken without due process. I'm asking you to prove that, and you keep refusing.

Okay, prove Trump did.

[Vassenor]

Aren't you the one who constantly pulls the "opinions aren't inherently evil" card or something like it?

The executive Order signed by Obama factually exists, it's contents are not subjective.

So what part of that order calls for guns to be taken without due process?

[Telconi]

The executive Order signed by Obama factually exists, it's contents are not subjective.

Your weirdly gun-based morality system is entirely up for debate, however. Since your assertion that Obama did wrong is based on that, it makes it entirely subjective.

Quote chains exist, you might want to make use of them.

[Liriena]

You said Obama called for guns to be taken without due process. I'm asking you to prove that, and you keep refusing.

Okay, prove Trump did.

"no u", quoth Telconi.

[Valrifell]

Your weirdly gun-based morality system is entirely up for debate, however. Since your assertion that Obama did wrong is based on that, it makes it entirely subjective.

Quote chains exist, you might want to make use of them.

We're talking about taking guns away without due process or something, iunno.

[Telconi]

Quote chains exist, you might want to make use of them.

We're talking about taking guns away without due process or something, iunno.

The operative part here is "Iunno" perhaps you should, before making uninformed comments?

[Vassenor]

You said Obama called for guns to be taken without due process. I'm asking you to prove that, and you keep refusing.

Okay, prove Trump did.

https://www.snopes.com/ap/2018/03/01/trump-says-lawmakers-fearful-nra-act-guns/

Trump raised eyebrows by suggesting that law enforcement officials should be able to confiscate people’s firearms without a court order to prevent potential tragedies.

“Take the guns first, go through due process second,” he suggested.

We even have video.

[Genivaria]

You said Obama called for guns to be taken without due process. I'm asking you to prove that, and you keep refusing.

Okay, prove Trump did.

Telc playbook.
-Makes claim to defend Trump
-Refuses to back it
-Tries to turn it around and demand evidence from the opposition without having provided evidence.
Yep everything's normal here.

[Genivaria]

Okay, prove Trump did.

https://www.snopes.com/ap/2018/03/01/trump-says-lawmakers-fearful-nra-act-guns/

Trump raised eyebrows by suggesting that law enforcement officials should be able to confiscate people’s firearms without a court order to prevent potential tragedies.

“Take the guns first, go through due process second,” he suggested.

What are you talking about? Trump didn't say that! Fake News! /sarc

[Telconi]

Okay, prove Trump did.

https://www.snopes.com/ap/2018/03/01/trump-says-lawmakers-fearful-nra-act-guns/

Trump raised eyebrows by suggesting that law enforcement officials should be able to confiscate people’s firearms without a court order to prevent potential tragedies.

“Take the guns first, go through due process second,” he suggested.

We even have video.

So lemme get this straight, Trump is bad for suggesting that a government agency should be empowered to deprive citizens of rights without a court order.

But Obama, who actually empowered a government agency to deprive citizens of rights without a court order, is perfectly fine.

And why is that?