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Postby Telconi » Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:55 pm

Bombadil wrote:Part of the issue is that the consequences of Trump haven't come home to roost yet, look at stock market growth and fall from 1995 to now.. we're due a massive crash and Trump is only fuelling it with his dumb tax cuts and screwing around with global trade.

Add to that all the damage he's doing internally by fucking around with constitutional issues and externally by pissing everyone off except, as I remember it, Israel and Hungary I think.


And Saudi Arabia evidently.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:57 pm

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There are things that are not fucking said and not fucking done, and the Democrats have done far less of both since that fucking dick of a president took office. If the Republicans here and beyond will piss on a corpse on their way to Trump's castles in the air, their party deserves all the death it could get, doomed forever as the Party of Trump, the Party of the Unspeakable.

Obama did drone US citizens, though. The journalist in question wasn't an American, nor does his death greatly affect us beyond moral outrage.

One citizen, who was a jihadi mouthpiece and mastermind. Clearly the same as a Washington Post journalist, but wouldn't surprise me if you unironically believe that.
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Postby Bombadil » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:02 pm

Telconi wrote:
Bombadil wrote:Part of the issue is that the consequences of Trump haven't come home to roost yet, look at stock market growth and fall from 1995 to now.. we're due a massive crash and Trump is only fuelling it with his dumb tax cuts and screwing around with global trade.

Add to that all the damage he's doing internally by fucking around with constitutional issues and externally by pissing everyone off except, as I remember it, Israel and Hungary I think.


And Saudi Arabia evidently.


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Postby Telconi » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:02 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Obama did drone US citizens, though. The journalist in question wasn't an American, nor does his death greatly affect us beyond moral outrage.

One citizen, who was a jihadi mouthpiece and mastermind. Clearly the same as a Washington Post journalist, but wouldn't surprise me if you unironically believe that.


Glad to see you unironically defend assassinations when it's your boy Barack doing it to people who say things you don't like.
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Postby Telconi » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:04 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Telconi wrote:
And Saudi Arabia evidently.


Fine humanitarian company all..


He's got the best friends, trust him.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:06 pm

Telconi wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:One citizen, who was a jihadi mouthpiece and mastermind. Clearly the same as a Washington Post journalist, but wouldn't surprise me if you unironically believe that.


Glad to see you unironically defend assassinations when it's your boy Barack doing it to people who say things you don't like.

Glad to see you unironically defend a straight out jihadi that was actively working to attack the United States just to score political points. :^]
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Postby Telconi » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:09 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Glad to see you unironically defend assassinations when it's your boy Barack doing it to people who say things you don't like.

Glad to see you unironically defend a straight out jihadi that was actively working to attack the United States just to score political points. :^]


>Gauth doesn't understand what actual moral convictions are.

I'm shocked... shocked I tell you... :roll:
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:12 pm

Telconi wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Glad to see you unironically defend a straight out jihadi that was actively working to attack the United States just to score political points. :^]


>Gauth doesn't understand what actual moral convictions are.

I'm shocked... shocked I tell you... :roll:

Nothing says "moral convictions" like cheerleading for a con artist who excused the murder of an American journalist in a consulate.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby Telconi » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:13 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Telconi wrote:
>Gauth doesn't understand what actual moral convictions are.

I'm shocked... shocked I tell you... :roll:

Nothing says "moral convictions" like cheerleading for a con artist who excused the murder of an American journalist in a consulate.


I don't think you know how cheerleading works.
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Postby Jerzyland » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:16 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:So have the "Better Saudi Than Democrat" shirts come out yet?

It's none of the US' business at all.


I'm calling BS on ^that crock. Khashoggi's children are US citizen and he was employed by a US business. That's our business.
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Postby Xadufell » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:30 pm

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Northern Davincia wrote:It's none of the US' business at all.


I'm calling BS on ^that crock. Khashoggi's children are US citizen and he was employed by a US business. That's our business.


His children being citizens doesn't have any impact on him being a citizen or not.

By your same logic, illegal immigrants are employed by US businesses, are they our business if they get killed by cartels in Mexico?
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Postby Bombadil » Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:15 pm

Xadufell wrote:
Jerzyland wrote:
I'm calling BS on ^that crock. Khashoggi's children are US citizen and he was employed by a US business. That's our business.


His children being citizens doesn't have any impact on him being a citizen or not.

By your same logic, illegal immigrants are employed by US businesses, are they our business if they get killed by cartels in Mexico?


yeah.. except he was a legal US resident with 3 children who are citizens, works for the Washington Post and was murdered at the behest of a key ally leader so.. entirely not the same as your example at all.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:22 pm

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President Trump is creating economic growth and upward mobility for all Americans, by reducing the overall tax burden (corporate tax) he has created more wealth and economic growth than any other president in modern history. Obama failed the USA on many, many fronts. Trump has yet to crash the economy!

Obama didn't crash the economy. That was the subprime lending market, which Obama's policies fixed. And I think that's about wrong. Think of Roosevelt.


Anyway, the corporate tax burden reduction results in nothing but kickbacks.

Roosevelt prolonged the Great Depression.
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Northern Davincia wrote:It's none of the US' business at all.


I'm calling BS on ^that crock. Khashoggi's children are US citizen and he was employed by a US business. That's our business.

It might be a concern of the business, but not of the government.
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Telconi wrote:
Glad to see you unironically defend assassinations when it's your boy Barack doing it to people who say things you don't like.

Glad to see you unironically defend a straight out jihadi that was actively working to attack the United States just to score political points. :^]

Believe it or not, American citizens have the right to a trial before their lives are taken by the government.
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Postby Hediacrana » Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:55 pm

Question: is this the appropriate thread to discuss the 2020 elections, or if not, where do I go?
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Postby Bombadil » Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:13 pm

Hediacrana wrote:Question: is this the appropriate thread to discuss the 2020 elections, or if not, where do I go?


I think generally a small breathing gap between election threads is appreciated.. given we just finished mid terms it'd be great to have, say.. at least a couple of months before we plunge into that nightmare..
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Postby Hediacrana » Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:16 pm

Bombadil wrote:I think generally a small breathing gap between election threads is appreciated.. given we just finished mid terms it'd be great to have, say.. at least a couple of months before we plunge into that nightmare..

I get that, but speculations as to whom might be partaking in the Democratic primaries are already taking off. And while obviously those discussions will bear on discussions relating to the Trump administration, it is a slightly different topic. If I want to know what Democratic candidates people might support here, should I open a separate thread or just ask it here?
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Postby Bombadil » Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:18 pm

Hediacrana wrote:
Bombadil wrote:I think generally a small breathing gap between election threads is appreciated.. given we just finished mid terms it'd be great to have, say.. at least a couple of months before we plunge into that nightmare..

I get that, but speculations as to whom might be partaking in the Democratic primaries are already taking off. And while obviously those discussions will bear on discussions relating to the Trump administration, it is a slightly different topic. If I want to know what Democratic candidates people might support here, should I open a separate thread or just ask it here?


To be fair I'm no authority on the matter :)

You could ask the Mods in Moderation, given they're sober enough to respond I'm sure they'll put across their opinion.
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Trump wanted DOJ to prosecute Clinton, Comey: report

Petty Trump tried to put away political opponents. Complete shocker.
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Postby Dahon » Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:32 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:Trump wanted DOJ to prosecute Clinton, Comey: report

Petty Trump tried to put away political opponents. Complete shocker.


Historically speaking, jailing political opponents is less "petty" and absolutely lockstep "de rigeur authoritarian".
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:58 pm

Hediacrana wrote:
Bombadil wrote:I think generally a small breathing gap between election threads is appreciated.. given we just finished mid terms it'd be great to have, say.. at least a couple of months before we plunge into that nightmare..

I get that, but speculations as to whom might be partaking in the Democratic primaries are already taking off. And while obviously those discussions will bear on discussions relating to the Trump administration, it is a slightly different topic. If I want to know what Democratic candidates people might support here, should I open a separate thread or just ask it here?

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I've been Googling, checking YouTube, what I could access of Twitter, all the conservative news sites, combing the Web for a resounding Republican outcry over that fucking dick's fucking statement (of course he wrote it).

Muted. Fucking muted. Bloody fucking muted. At best. What the bloody fuck.
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Postby Bombadil » Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:42 am

Dahon wrote:I've been Googling, checking YouTube, what I could access of Twitter, all the conservative news sites, combing the Web for a resounding Republican outcry over that fucking dick's fucking statement (of course he wrote it).

Muted. Fucking muted. Bloody fucking muted. At best. What the bloody fuck.


Really, I read an article on FOX news earlier around Republicans calling it the disgrace it is. Even Rubio chimed in.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/marco- ... rica-first

Even in the comments section the reaction seems a little more mixed than the usual toxic pro-Trump stance, where despite a comment that Rand Paul is a typical communist, which made me chuckle, someone made this point..

Trump came down harder on Jim Acosta for asking a question than he did on MBS for killing a journalist.
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Postby Dahon » Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:49 am

Bombadil wrote:
Dahon wrote:I've been Googling, checking YouTube, what I could access of Twitter, all the conservative news sites, combing the Web for a resounding Republican outcry over that fucking dick's fucking statement (of course he wrote it).

Muted. Fucking muted. Bloody fucking muted. At best. What the bloody fuck.


Really, I read an article on FOX news earlier around Republicans calling it the disgrace it is. Even Rubio chimed in.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/marco- ... rica-first


What I'd really like to see are hostile opinion pieces in media Trump consumes, as well as some hostility from even Trumpist diehards, the Jim Ps of the blogosphere and whatnot.

So far, muted. Muted.
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Postby Telconi » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:09 am

Dahon wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
Really, I read an article on FOX news earlier around Republicans calling it the disgrace it is. Even Rubio chimed in.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/marco- ... rica-first


What I'd really like to see are hostile opinion pieces in media Trump consumes, as well as some hostility from even Trumpist diehards, the Jim Ps of the blogosphere and whatnot.

So far, muted. Muted.


Why would they do that? I mean, honestly, give me one good reason why they would attack him.
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Reminder that Trump is the only president to say guns should be taken away without due process.


Why you always forget your boy Obama?


So when did Obama say that guns should be taken without due process?
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