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Postby Salandriagado » Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:26 am

Major-Tom wrote:
Shrillland wrote:From the Washington Post: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/trump-ditches-144-year-old-postal-pact-that-boosts-chinese-retailers/ar-BBOwvhn?li=BBnb7Kz

Effective October 18, 2019, the US will be the first nation to pull out of the Universal Postal Union, the international body that's responsible for postal services, which the US helped create back in 1874. Trump's doing it because of steep discounts that the Chinese pay on sending small parcels, which, I think, could've been settled without giving the world the finger...again. But then he wouldn't be Trump, would he?


To be perfectly honest, I didn't even know there was such a thing as the UPU or whatever. I'll have to read about it before I make an opinion.


You know how if you post something internationally, you put US stamps bought from the USPO on it, and it magically gets there, despite passing through the hands of at least one other organisation in an entirely different country that you never gave a penny to? That's what the UPU allows.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

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Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

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Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby Salandriagado » Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:27 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Shrillland wrote:From the Washington Post: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/trump-ditches-144-year-old-postal-pact-that-boosts-chinese-retailers/ar-BBOwvhn?li=BBnb7Kz

Effective October 18, 2019, the US will be the first nation to pull out of the Universal Postal Union, the international body that's responsible for postal services, which the US helped create back in 1874. Trump's doing it because of steep discounts that the Chinese pay on sending small parcels, which, I think, could've been settled without giving the world the finger...again. But then he wouldn't be Trump, would he?

WHAT

THE UNIVERSAL POSTAL UNION

THE OLDEST INTERNATIONAL ORGANISATION IN THE WORLD

and the least controversial, I might add. This is petty and useless. But it is a metaphor. The UPU is seen as the first stepping stone in a more international society. Even in the 19th century, countries knew to give up a little sovereignty for huge gains. I guess it is a hint as to which time Donald Trump wants to return to: somewhere before 1874.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Univers ... ership.png

The US would join the prestigious ranks of the Western Saharan State by leaving the UPU.


Third oldest. The ITU and CCNR are older.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

Vilatania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby Salandriagado » Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:28 am

Grand Britannia wrote:
Shrillland wrote:From the Washington Post: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/trump-ditches-144-year-old-postal-pact-that-boosts-chinese-retailers/ar-BBOwvhn?li=BBnb7Kz

Effective October 18, 2019, the US will be the first nation to pull out of the Universal Postal Union, the international body that's responsible for postal services, which the US helped create back in 1874. Trump's doing it because of steep discounts that the Chinese pay on sending small parcels, which, I think, could've been settled without giving the world the finger...again. But then he wouldn't be Trump, would he?

I can see the .001% of people that buy ripoff items on eBay from China be annoyed at this.

Beyond that, nice.


And literally everybody who ever wants to ship anything to or from anywhere else in the world at all.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

Vilatania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby Salandriagado » Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:29 am

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Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Why is it nice? This agreement is the basis of international postal services. Without it, the US will have to make seperate agreements with every country on earth. This is a disruption to all international postage coming from or to the United States.

So, again, why is this nice?


Yes, because without an agreement in place the postal service will stop working on all parcels to and out of the US. Every single action on planet Earth must be legalised or regulated by an act specifically mentioning the event in the jurisdiction applicable.

In reality, things will continue as normal. But countries will pay the full cost of sending things to the US.


When parcels are posted out of the United States, the provisions of the UTU allow for the other countries handling those parcels to be paid for doing so. Without it, yes, absolutely, non-American postal services will stop accepting US parcels. They aren't going to work for free.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

Vilatania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby Dahon » Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:35 am



Conceivably, protesting could become big business. Bigly business, Trump-ah Trump-ah, doll-ah doll-ah...
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Postby Dahon » Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:43 am

Shrillland wrote:From the Washington Post: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/trump-ditches-144-year-old-postal-pact-that-boosts-chinese-retailers/ar-BBOwvhn?li=BBnb7Kz

Effective October 18, 2019, the US will be the first nation to pull out of the Universal Postal Union, the international body that's responsible for postal services, which the US helped create back in 1874. Trump's doing it because of steep discounts that the Chinese pay on sending small parcels, which, I think, could've been settled without giving the world the finger...again. But then he wouldn't be Trump, would he?


Well, ain't this royally fucking us over (and by "us" I mean "us Filipinos", as conceivably our... hah... export labor in the United States will now have to jump more hoops to send fucking packages in between vacations).

But I guess giving up a little sovereignty for smoother intercontinental service is too much for... Trump.
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Postby Dahon » Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:46 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Shrillland wrote:From the Washington Post: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/trump-ditches-144-year-old-postal-pact-that-boosts-chinese-retailers/ar-BBOwvhn?li=BBnb7Kz

Effective October 18, 2019, the US will be the first nation to pull out of the Universal Postal Union, the international body that's responsible for postal services, which the US helped create back in 1874. Trump's doing it because of steep discounts that the Chinese pay on sending small parcels, which, I think, could've been settled without giving the world the finger...again. But then he wouldn't be Trump, would he?


y tho


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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:53 am

Dahon wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
y tho


He's a fucking dick, that's fucking why


Ehh, I wouldn't go that far. Few people do things just because they are dicks, and almost never consistently. Trump has a good point in that the UPU should reassess their classification system, because some assumptions it is based on are no longer true- he isn't just tearing down the system for the sake of tearing it down, though that is probably on the agenda.

If you dismiss people you disagree with and their actions because "lol they dumb/crazy/evil", good luck ever understanding folks across the aisle.
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Postby Dahon » Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:05 am

Yeah well I'm pushing all my doubt on Trump and Trump alone, as Trump has the record -- and besides, the Philippines has a fucking lot of our people working fucking there, people who remit most of their fucking earnings and send a lot of other fucking goodies here, and they're gonna be fucked over by Trump fucking with that treaty instead of I dunno talking it the fuck over --

-- yeah, if this seems intemperate, I'm controlling myself here; I personally wouldn't be affected by this, as with most of Trump's harebrained schemes to dick over the rest of the international community. But millions of my fellow compatriots, those families of migrants now toiling and fighting off homesickness in the States so they can earn a decent fucking salary, they definitely will, as if living under the bloodstained boot of one dick of a president ain't fucking fantastic enough --
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:06 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Dahon wrote:
He's a fucking dick, that's fucking why


Ehh, I wouldn't go that far. Few people do things just because they are dicks, and almost never consistently. Trump has a good point in that the UPU should reassess their classification system, because some assumptions it is based on are no longer true- he isn't just tearing down the system for the sake of tearing it down, though that is probably on the agenda.

If you dismiss people you disagree with and their actions because "lol they dumb/crazy/evil", good luck ever understanding folks across the aisle.

Trump is dumb, though. You can't understand his policies and decisions if you're going to assume that everything he does is actually somehow really clever, because his policies and decisions are going to be dumb because one, he is dumb, and two, he is convinced he's a genius and doesn't need to listen to anyone else.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:14 am

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G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Ehh, I wouldn't go that far. Few people do things just because they are dicks, and almost never consistently. Trump has a good point in that the UPU should reassess their classification system, because some assumptions it is based on are no longer true- he isn't just tearing down the system for the sake of tearing it down, though that is probably on the agenda.

If you dismiss people you disagree with and their actions because "lol they dumb/crazy/evil", good luck ever understanding folks across the aisle.

Trump is dumb, though. You can't understand his policies and decisions if you're going to assume that everything he does is actually somehow really clever, because his policies and decisions are going to be dumb because one, he is dumb, and two, he is convinced he's a genius and doesn't need to listen to anyone else.


Oh yes. You should definitely interpret his actions through a lenses of impetuousness, pettiness, and irrationality. But I would hardly say all of his motivations stem from those quarters- or even the motivations of most politicians- because ultimately those ideas come from somewhere logical in the depths of a reptilian brain.
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Postby Dahon » Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:15 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Trump is dumb, though. You can't understand his policies and decisions if you're going to assume that everything he does is actually somehow really clever, because his policies and decisions are going to be dumb because one, he is dumb, and two, he is convinced he's a genius and doesn't need to listen to anyone else.


Oh yes. You should definitely interpret his actions through a lenses of impetuousness, pettiness, and irrationality. But I would hardly say all of his motivations stem from those quarters- or even the motivations of most politicians- because ultimately those ideas come from somewhere logical in the depths of a reptilian brain.


Apology by piecemeal evolution...?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:16 am

Ifreann wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Ehh, I wouldn't go that far. Few people do things just because they are dinks, and almost never consistently. Trump has a good point in that the UPU should reassess their classification system, because some assumptions it is based on are no longer true- he isn't just tearing down the system for the sake of tearing it down, though that is probably on the agenda.

If you dismiss people you disagree with and their actions because "lol they dumb/crazy/evil", good luck ever understanding folks across the aisle.

Trump is dumb, though. You can't understand his policies and decisions if you're going to assume that everything he does is actually somehow really clever, because his policies and decisions are going to be dumb because one, he is dumb, and two, he is convinced he's a genius and doesn't need to listen to anyone else.


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Postby Trumptonium1 » Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:22 pm

Dahon wrote:
Shrillland wrote:From the Washington Post: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/trump-ditches-144-year-old-postal-pact-that-boosts-chinese-retailers/ar-BBOwvhn?li=BBnb7Kz

Effective October 18, 2019, the US will be the first nation to pull out of the Universal Postal Union, the international body that's responsible for postal services, which the US helped create back in 1874. Trump's doing it because of steep discounts that the Chinese pay on sending small parcels, which, I think, could've been settled without giving the world the finger...again. But then he wouldn't be Trump, would he?


Well, ain't this royally fucking us over (and by "us" I mean "us Filipinos", as conceivably our... hah... export labor in the United States will now have to jump more hoops to send fucking packages in between vacations).


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Postby Petrasylvania » Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:25 pm

Trumptonium1 wrote:
Dahon wrote:
Well, ain't this royally fucking us over (and by "us" I mean "us Filipinos", as conceivably our... hah... export labor in the United States will now have to jump more hoops to send fucking packages in between vacations).


A very good thing

Getting the salt fix? Only reason extra unnecessary procedures and costs can be remotely considered good. You're not even American are you?
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Postby Shrillland » Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:48 pm

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A very good thing

Getting the salt fix? Only reason extra unnecessary procedures and costs can be remotely considered good. You're not even American are you?


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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:49 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:
Shrillland wrote:From the Washington Post: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/trump-ditches-144-year-old-postal-pact-that-boosts-chinese-retailers/ar-BBOwvhn?li=BBnb7Kz

Effective October 18, 2019, the US will be the first nation to pull out of the Universal Postal Union, the international body that's responsible for postal services, which the US helped create back in 1874. Trump's doing it because of steep discounts that the Chinese pay on sending small parcels, which, I think, could've been settled without giving the world the finger...again. But then he wouldn't be Trump, would he?

I can see the .001% of people that buy ripoff items on eBay from China be annoyed at this.

Beyond that, nice.


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Postby Oil exporting People » Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:53 pm

Trump Embraces Foreign Aid to Counter China’s Global Influence

President Trump, seeking to counter China’s growing geopolitical influence, is embracing a major expansion of foreign aid that will bankroll infrastructure projects in Africa, Asia and the Americas — throwing his support behind an initiative he once sought to scuttle.

With little fanfare, Mr. Trump signed a bill a little over a week ago that created a new foreign aid agency — the United States International Development Finance Corporation — and gave it authority to provide $60 billion in loans, loan guarantees and insurance to companies willing to do business in developing nations.

The move was a significant reversal for Mr. Trump, who has harshly criticized foreign aid from the opening moments of his presidential campaign in 2015. Since becoming president, Mr. Trump has proposed slashing $3 billion in overseas assistance, backed eliminating funding for the Overseas Private Investment Corporation and taken steps to gut the United States Agency for International Development, the State Department agency that dispenses $22.7 billion a year in grants around the world.

The president’s shift has less to do with a sudden embrace of foreign aid than a desire to block Beijing’s plan for economic, technological and political dominance. China has spent nearly five years bankrolling a plan to gain greater global influence by financing big projects across Asia, Eastern Europe and Africa.

Now, Mr. Trump wants to fight fire with fire.

“I’ve changed, and I think he’s changed, and it is all about China,” said Representative Ted Yoho, Republican of Florida, who helped sell the plan to other conservative Republicans in the House Freedom Caucus, which has historically opposed foreign aid programs.

“My whole impetus in running for Congress in the first place was to get rid of foreign aid. It was my thing,” said Mr. Yoho, chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on Asia and the Pacific. “But if we can reformulate and modernize it, yeah, I have no problem with that. There are people who want to do this for humanitarian aid, fine. There are people like me who want to do this for national security, like me, fine.”

The effort is part of a sweeping attempt by the Trump administration to prevent China’s economic and political dominance. Mr. Trump has already imposed tariffs on $250 billion in Chinese goods as punishment for Beijing’s trade practices, which he says put American companies at a disadvantage. Last week, his administration detailed a plan to use expanded powers to crack down on foreign investment in the United States, which was aimed primarily at making it harder for China to gain access to American technology and trade secrets.

And the administration said last week that it would sharply restrict exports of civilian nuclear technology to China.

The new bipartisan push to increase foreign aid began under the Obama administration, but it was rebranded as a means of competing with China’s “Belt and Road Initiative” which has a goal of distributing $1 trillion in construction aid and investments to over 100 countries.

China’s biggest investments are targeted to countries, like Pakistan and Nigeria, with a goal of expanding Beijing’s geopolitical power and gaining access to natural resources like minerals and oil. But it is also spending billions on projects in smaller countries that are less likely to turn a monetary or political profit. Last month, President Xi Jinping said China would provide $60 billion in financial support to Africa, including credit lines, grants and investment financing.

The investments have raised concerns that poor and emerging nations like Djibouti and Sri Lanka could be increasingly beholden to China, which can seize local assets if countries default on loans.

“The whole point of China’s activity is building things no one else wanted to build — rail lines between African countries that hate each other, roads in bad terrain, power plants that are never going to make any money,” said Derek M. Scissors, a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute who studies the Chinese and Indian economies.

“If a country can’t pay, they will take assets they want,” he added. “But they aren’t setting a debt trap. This is about expanding their reach and exercising passive power.”

The United States’ initiative is far less ambitious. But it “allows us, at least, to compete,” said Tom Hart, North America executive director of ONE, the development nonprofit that the musician Bono helped found.

The new agency will supplant the Overseas Private Investment Corporation, established in 1971 as a lending facility to encourage American companies to invest in developing countries, and will have twice its overall lending capacity. The new entity, like the old, is funded primarily through fees, and will provide loans, loan guarantees and political risk insurance to companies willing to take the gamble of investing in developing countries.

O.P.I.C. has earned millions of dollars each year for the Treasury Department, the result of a conservative investment strategy including loans to American corporations for relatively low-risk projects, such as a $400 million loan to General Electric, Bechtel and other investors in 2015 to build Egypt’s biggest petrochemical plant.

The new $60 billion aid program was tucked into a five-year reauthorization of the Federal Aviation Administration and its passage was the product of a quiet, bipartisan effort. It included ONE, the Brookings Institution, conservative House members like Mr. Yoho and Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross. It was led by Ray Washburne, the president of O.P.I.C. and a top Republican fund-raiser from Texas.

O.P.I.C., like most other foreign development agencies, has come under heavy fire from the right, which has argued that such assistance is a waste of federal resources and a form of corporate welfare. During President Barack Obama’s second term, the Republican-controlled House balked at reauthorizing the agency.

Passengers aboard a Kenya Railways train on the Mombasa-Nairobi line, which was funded by China’s One Belt, One Road initiative.CreditLuis Tato/Bloomberg
During his presidential campaign, Mr. Trump vowed to “stop sending aid to countries that hate us.”

“I’m astonished, to be honest. I still can’t believe we got it done,” said Senator Chris Coons, Democrat of Delaware, who sits on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. “We’ve been working on this since 2015. It is basically the same proposal we had under the Obama administration. We rebranded to focus it on China.”

The agency contains new accountability measures and includes reporting requirements to prevent gender discrimination and the use of child labor, but it is otherwise similar to its predecessor.

Shortly after being picked as budget director last year, Mick Mulvaney — with the president’s enthusiastic support — proposed slashing the State Department’s foreign aid budget by one-third, a plan that zeroed out O.P.I.C.’s budget.

“It is not a soft-power budget,” Mr. Mulvaney explained at the time. “This is a hard-power budget.”

Soft power has, however, proved hard to kill.

Congressional Republicans rejected Mr. Mulvaney’s cuts. And Secretary of State Mike Pompeo fought Mr. Mulvaney’s attempts to claw back $3 billion in foreign aid spending this year, telling Mr. Trump that the cuts would weaken the country’s position in the world and his own standing with the department’s pro-foreign-aid career staff, according to two administration officials with knowledge of the exchanges.

In the end, Mr. Yoho sold Mr. Mulvaney on supporting the expansion of the investment fund, arguing that its expansion would probably cost taxpayers nothing.

Senator Bob Corker, the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, emphasized that the initiative represented a strategic shift. Mr. Trump seems to be learning that the projections of military power alone will not be enough to compete with China, he said.

“We’re seeing what China is doing throughout Africa and South America, especially Venezuela, and people are waking up and realizing we have to have involvement with the countries, not just for a return on investment, but to move them toward a market-based approach,” said Mr. Corker, a Tennessee Republican who is not running for re-election. “So much of our foreign policy now is focused on trying to check China, especially their nefarious activities.”

Significant questions remain about how the fund will operate in its new expanded form. The key to its success, development officials said, is to create a new system that will carefully vet investments for maximum economic and political impact — and to ensure that projects don’t fail as a result of corruption and mismanagement, a problem that has plagued China’s investments in Malaysia and elsewhere.

A bigger question is whether it will do anything to reduce China’s global influence.

“I’m pretty skeptical,” Mr. Scissors said. “The whole concept is that we give more money to big players who make investments in places where they don’t lose money. We’ve finessed the public relations problem. But we aren’t really competing with the Chinese.”
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Postby Corrian » Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:11 pm


His support is still way higher than it should be.
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A fair chunk of that might be because space operations are being moved away from the USAF into its own separate branch. I don't imagine a lot of Army personnel were particularly happy when the USAAF was turned into the USAF.

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Oil exporting People wrote:Trump Embraces Foreign Aid to Counter China’s Global Influence
President Trump, seeking to counter China’s growing geopolitical influence, is embracing a major expansion of foreign aid that will bankroll infrastructure projects in Africa, Asia and the Americas — throwing his support behind an initiative he once sought to scuttle.

With little fanfare, Mr. Trump signed a bill a little over a week ago that created a new foreign aid agency — the United States International Development Finance Corporation — and gave it authority to provide $60 billion in loans, loan guarantees and insurance to companies willing to do business in developing nations.

The move was a significant reversal for Mr. Trump, who has harshly criticized foreign aid from the opening moments of his presidential campaign in 2015. Since becoming president, Mr. Trump has proposed slashing $3 billion in overseas assistance, backed eliminating funding for the Overseas Private Investment Corporation and taken steps to gut the United States Agency for International Development, the State Department agency that dispenses $22.7 billion a year in grants around the world.

The president’s shift has less to do with a sudden embrace of foreign aid than a desire to block Beijing’s plan for economic, technological and political dominance. China has spent nearly five years bankrolling a plan to gain greater global influence by financing big projects across Asia, Eastern Europe and Africa.

Now, Mr. Trump wants to fight fire with fire.

“I’ve changed, and I think he’s changed, and it is all about China,” said Representative Ted Yoho, Republican of Florida, who helped sell the plan to other conservative Republicans in the House Freedom Caucus, which has historically opposed foreign aid programs.

“My whole impetus in running for Congress in the first place was to get rid of foreign aid. It was my thing,” said Mr. Yoho, chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on Asia and the Pacific. “But if we can reformulate and modernize it, yeah, I have no problem with that. There are people who want to do this for humanitarian aid, fine. There are people like me who want to do this for national security, like me, fine.”

The effort is part of a sweeping attempt by the Trump administration to prevent China’s economic and political dominance. Mr. Trump has already imposed tariffs on $250 billion in Chinese goods as punishment for Beijing’s trade practices, which he says put American companies at a disadvantage. Last week, his administration detailed a plan to use expanded powers to crack down on foreign investment in the United States, which was aimed primarily at making it harder for China to gain access to American technology and trade secrets.

And the administration said last week that it would sharply restrict exports of civilian nuclear technology to China.

The new bipartisan push to increase foreign aid began under the Obama administration, but it was rebranded as a means of competing with China’s “Belt and Road Initiative” which has a goal of distributing $1 trillion in construction aid and investments to over 100 countries.

China’s biggest investments are targeted to countries, like Pakistan and Nigeria, with a goal of expanding Beijing’s geopolitical power and gaining access to natural resources like minerals and oil. But it is also spending billions on projects in smaller countries that are less likely to turn a monetary or political profit. Last month, President Xi Jinping said China would provide $60 billion in financial support to Africa, including credit lines, grants and investment financing.

The investments have raised concerns that poor and emerging nations like Djibouti and Sri Lanka could be increasingly beholden to China, which can seize local assets if countries default on loans.

“The whole point of China’s activity is building things no one else wanted to build — rail lines between African countries that hate each other, roads in bad terrain, power plants that are never going to make any money,” said Derek M. Scissors, a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute who studies the Chinese and Indian economies.

“If a country can’t pay, they will take assets they want,” he added. “But they aren’t setting a debt trap. This is about expanding their reach and exercising passive power.”

The United States’ initiative is far less ambitious. But it “allows us, at least, to compete,” said Tom Hart, North America executive director of ONE, the development nonprofit that the musician Bono helped found.

The new agency will supplant the Overseas Private Investment Corporation, established in 1971 as a lending facility to encourage American companies to invest in developing countries, and will have twice its overall lending capacity. The new entity, like the old, is funded primarily through fees, and will provide loans, loan guarantees and political risk insurance to companies willing to take the gamble of investing in developing countries.

O.P.I.C. has earned millions of dollars each year for the Treasury Department, the result of a conservative investment strategy including loans to American corporations for relatively low-risk projects, such as a $400 million loan to General Electric, Bechtel and other investors in 2015 to build Egypt’s biggest petrochemical plant.

The new $60 billion aid program was tucked into a five-year reauthorization of the Federal Aviation Administration and its passage was the product of a quiet, bipartisan effort. It included ONE, the Brookings Institution, conservative House members like Mr. Yoho and Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross. It was led by Ray Washburne, the president of O.P.I.C. and a top Republican fund-raiser from Texas.

O.P.I.C., like most other foreign development agencies, has come under heavy fire from the right, which has argued that such assistance is a waste of federal resources and a form of corporate welfare. During President Barack Obama’s second term, the Republican-controlled House balked at reauthorizing the agency.

Passengers aboard a Kenya Railways train on the Mombasa-Nairobi line, which was funded by China’s One Belt, One Road initiative.CreditLuis Tato/Bloomberg
During his presidential campaign, Mr. Trump vowed to “stop sending aid to countries that hate us.”

“I’m astonished, to be honest. I still can’t believe we got it done,” said Senator Chris Coons, Democrat of Delaware, who sits on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. “We’ve been working on this since 2015. It is basically the same proposal we had under the Obama administration. We rebranded to focus it on China.”

The agency contains new accountability measures and includes reporting requirements to prevent gender discrimination and the use of child labor, but it is otherwise similar to its predecessor.

Shortly after being picked as budget director last year, Mick Mulvaney — with the president’s enthusiastic support — proposed slashing the State Department’s foreign aid budget by one-third, a plan that zeroed out O.P.I.C.’s budget.

“It is not a soft-power budget,” Mr. Mulvaney explained at the time. “This is a hard-power budget.”

Soft power has, however, proved hard to kill.

Congressional Republicans rejected Mr. Mulvaney’s cuts. And Secretary of State Mike Pompeo fought Mr. Mulvaney’s attempts to claw back $3 billion in foreign aid spending this year, telling Mr. Trump that the cuts would weaken the country’s position in the world and his own standing with the department’s pro-foreign-aid career staff, according to two administration officials with knowledge of the exchanges.

In the end, Mr. Yoho sold Mr. Mulvaney on supporting the expansion of the investment fund, arguing that its expansion would probably cost taxpayers nothing.

Senator Bob Corker, the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, emphasized that the initiative represented a strategic shift. Mr. Trump seems to be learning that the projections of military power alone will not be enough to compete with China, he said.

“We’re seeing what China is doing throughout Africa and South America, especially Venezuela, and people are waking up and realizing we have to have involvement with the countries, not just for a return on investment, but to move them toward a market-based approach,” said Mr. Corker, a Tennessee Republican who is not running for re-election. “So much of our foreign policy now is focused on trying to check China, especially their nefarious activities.”

Significant questions remain about how the fund will operate in its new expanded form. The key to its success, development officials said, is to create a new system that will carefully vet investments for maximum economic and political impact — and to ensure that projects don’t fail as a result of corruption and mismanagement, a problem that has plagued China’s investments in Malaysia and elsewhere.

A bigger question is whether it will do anything to reduce China’s global influence.

“I’m pretty skeptical,” Mr. Scissors said. “The whole concept is that we give more money to big players who make investments in places where they don’t lose money. We’ve finessed the public relations problem. But we aren’t really competing with the Chinese.”



About time, America has been seriously losing in the geopolitics world by not matching China's investments.



It was all fun and games until the bonesaw was pulled on the man. *taps head*
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