Preferably yes
It’s terribly dangerous to be a street prostitute, although I doubt it’d eliminate all business outside of brothels
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by Internationalist Bastard » Sun Sep 23, 2018 8:46 pm
by Givienci » Sun Sep 23, 2018 8:52 pm
I'm not saying that a candidate only needs to focus on Alaskan issues or that they'd win a national election doing that. I'm saying that the EC is about appealing to a plurality of views, which will differ nationally but regionally tend to homogenize. If you as a presidential candidate take a pro-gun stance, you'll lose people with an exclusively urbanite view on the issue in large metro areas and their associated states (e.g. New York, Illinois, California), but gain people in states with wildlife problems (Alaska, Idaho, Montana, Oregon, Washington, etc.) or a notable hunting culture (Northwest and the South). Most issues transcend state lines and a lot of states will have populations with overlapping interests, needs, and attitudes. Because of that, the equalizer actually does work. For instance, taking a more protectionist/nationalist stance on trade will appeal to people living in the rust belt states especially--that adds up to a lot of potential EC votes, so appealing to the region is worthwhile.Uiiop wrote:Givienci wrote:Well, Alaska actually has 3 EC votes which is the minimum. On a population adjusted basis, Alaska gets more representation than California because alaska effectively gets 1 EC vote per ~246k people vs 1 EC vote per ~719k people in California. In a sense, it helps act as an equalizer.
Mixed it up with Arizona. That i'll concede.
Your correction only shows to prove that your equalizer does jack shit. 5% would still be overwhelmed by the 95%.
by Uiiop » Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:47 pm
Givienci wrote:I'm not saying that a candidate only needs to focus on Alaskan issues or that they'd win a national election doing that. I'm saying that the EC is about appealing to a plurality of views, which will differ nationally but regionally tend to homogenize. If you as a presidential candidate take a pro-gun stance, you'll lose people with an exclusively urbanite view on the issue in large metro areas and their associated states (e.g. New York, Illinois, California), but gain people in states with wildlife problems (Alaska, Idaho, Montana, Oregon, Washington, etc.) or a notable hunting culture (Northwest and the South). Most issues transcend state lines and a lot of states will have populations with overlapping interests, needs, and attitudes. Because of that, the equalizer actually does work. For instance, taking a more protectionist/nationalist stance on trade will appeal to people living in the rust belt states especially--that adds up to a lot of potential EC votes, so appealing to the region is worthwhile.Uiiop wrote:Mixed it up with Arizona. That i'll concede.
Your correction only shows to prove that your equalizer does jack shit. 5% would still be overwhelmed by the 95%.
In a simple majority system, there's virtually no reason to spend any time canvasing outside NYC, Miami, Chicago, Seattle, LA, SF, and other places like that--that's where you get the bang for your buck. But, believe it or not, there's a life and even people outside the odorous metro areas and their viewpoints and concerns are no less valid than the urbanite's.
Anyway, I'm going to go. I've been at this long enough already. All of this was already duly considered hundreds of years ago, so if you want to study why we have the EC system, I'll point you towards the Federalist Papers and Jon Stuart Mill's On Liberty,
by Uiiop » Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:59 pm
by Telconi » Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:25 pm
by Internationalist Bastard » Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:33 pm
by Vassenor » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:40 am
Givienci wrote:I'm not saying that a candidate only needs to focus on Alaskan issues or that they'd win a national election doing that. I'm saying that the EC is about appealing to a plurality of views, which will differ nationally but regionally tend to homogenize. If you as a presidential candidate take a pro-gun stance, you'll lose people with an exclusively urbanite view on the issue in large metro areas and their associated states (e.g. New York, Illinois, California), but gain people in states with wildlife problems (Alaska, Idaho, Montana, Oregon, Washington, etc.) or a notable hunting culture (Northwest and the South). Most issues transcend state lines and a lot of states will have populations with overlapping interests, needs, and attitudes. Because of that, the equalizer actually does work. For instance, taking a more protectionist/nationalist stance on trade will appeal to people living in the rust belt states especially--that adds up to a lot of potential EC votes, so appealing to the region is worthwhile.Uiiop wrote:Mixed it up with Arizona. That i'll concede.
Your correction only shows to prove that your equalizer does jack shit. 5% would still be overwhelmed by the 95%.
In a simple majority system, there's virtually no reason to spend any time canvasing outside NYC, Miami, Chicago, Seattle, LA, SF, and other places like that--that's where you get the bang for your buck. But, believe it or not, there's a life and even people outside the odorous metro areas and their viewpoints and concerns are no less valid than the urbanite's.
Anyway, I'm going to go. I've been at this long enough already. All of this was already duly considered hundreds of years ago, so if you want to study why we have the EC system, I'll point you towards the Federalist Papers and Jon Stuart Mill's On Liberty,
by Uiiop » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:42 am
Vassenor wrote:Givienci wrote:I'm not saying that a candidate only needs to focus on Alaskan issues or that they'd win a national election doing that. I'm saying that the EC is about appealing to a plurality of views, which will differ nationally but regionally tend to homogenize. If you as a presidential candidate take a pro-gun stance, you'll lose people with an exclusively urbanite view on the issue in large metro areas and their associated states (e.g. New York, Illinois, California), but gain people in states with wildlife problems (Alaska, Idaho, Montana, Oregon, Washington, etc.) or a notable hunting culture (Northwest and the South). Most issues transcend state lines and a lot of states will have populations with overlapping interests, needs, and attitudes. Because of that, the equalizer actually does work. For instance, taking a more protectionist/nationalist stance on trade will appeal to people living in the rust belt states especially--that adds up to a lot of potential EC votes, so appealing to the region is worthwhile.
In a simple majority system, there's virtually no reason to spend any time canvasing outside NYC, Miami, Chicago, Seattle, LA, SF, and other places like that--that's where you get the bang for your buck. But, believe it or not, there's a life and even people outside the odorous metro areas and their viewpoints and concerns are no less valid than the urbanite's.
Anyway, I'm going to go. I've been at this long enough already. All of this was already duly considered hundreds of years ago, so if you want to study why we have the EC system, I'll point you towards the Federalist Papers and Jon Stuart Mill's On Liberty,
You do realise that even if you win 100% of the vote in all 100 of the largest cities in the U.S. that's not even 20% of the voting public, right?
by Telconi » Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:01 am
by Internationalist Bastard » Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:07 am
by Nekokuni » Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:56 am
by Petrasylvania » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:00 am
Nekokuni wrote:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1043995561895108609
I feel sorry for the Prime Minister every time he has to visit Trump. Wonder what random historical event involving Japan that the president will remember this time.
by Zurkerx » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:56 am
by Petrasylvania » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:14 am
Zurkerx wrote:So, apparently Rosenstein will either resign or be fired today.
Well, let's see if the Mueller Probe survives, or will Trump be full steam ahead.
Edit: White House has accepted his resignation.
by Senkaku » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:16 am
Zurkerx wrote:So, apparently Rosenstein will either resign or be fired today.
Well, let's see if the Mueller Probe survives, or will Trump be full steam ahead.
Edit: White House has accepted his resignation.
by Valrifell » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:32 am
Senkaku wrote:Zurkerx wrote:So, apparently Rosenstein will either resign or be fired today.
Well, let's see if the Mueller Probe survives, or will Trump be full steam ahead.
Edit: White House has accepted his resignation.
Can we just skip to the tanks in the streets part I'm getting bored with all this dicking around
by Cannot think of a name » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:36 am
by Vassenor » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:14 am
If you’re just joining us, Rod Rosenstein has resigned but also hasn’t resigned yet and is going to the White House in order to resign and also to be fired and also he’s already BEEN fired and is already gone and also isn’t resigning or getting fired.
by Cannot think of a name » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:49 am
Vassenor wrote:If you’re just joining us, Rod Rosenstein has resigned but also hasn’t resigned yet and is going to the White House in order to resign and also to be fired and also he’s already BEEN fired and is already gone and also isn’t resigning or getting fired.
by The Black Forrest » Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:04 am
by Zurkerx » Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:13 am
Vassenor wrote:If you’re just joining us, Rod Rosenstein has resigned but also hasn’t resigned yet and is going to the White House in order to resign and also to be fired and also he’s already BEEN fired and is already gone and also isn’t resigning or getting fired.
by Cannot think of a name » Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:36 am
Zurkerx wrote:Vassenor wrote:If you’re just joining us, Rod Rosenstein has resigned but also hasn’t resigned yet and is going to the White House in order to resign and also to be fired and also he’s already BEEN fired and is already gone and also isn’t resigning or getting fired.
I literally had to read this a few times before I understood what was being fully said here. Now it appears Rosenstein will meet Trump on Thursday. I wonder how that will go.
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