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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:03 pm

Kaggeceria wrote:
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...at a hearing for a Supreme Court nominee. And he's right.

But hey if you wanna cherry pick quotes and post them out of context then go right ahead. You have every right to be wrong.

And this is what you consider to be "something real"?


How was it cherry picked?
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Postby Painisia » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:04 pm

Everybody should stop hating Nike. I am regularly using Nike in my gym class
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Postby Kaggeceria » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:04 pm

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Kaggeceria wrote:Not my job. You're the one making the claim. Burden of proof falls on you.


You're accusing me of cherry picking and discarding context. You need to prove that.

The proof is your post. You literally posted a single quote without providing any context for it at all.

Do you want me to go back and quote your own post for you?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:09 pm

Painisia wrote:Everybody should stop hating Nike. I am regularly using Nike in my gym class


Nike has many reasons to be judged. Kaepernick is not one of them. But hey dummies; you sure showed them burning those costly shoes you bought.

Oh not really relevant to the thread.....
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:09 pm

Painisia wrote:Everybody should stop hating Nike. I am regularly using Nike in my gym class

Yeah what’s this about the cutting Nike logos
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:10 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Painisia wrote:Everybody should stop hating Nike. I am regularly using Nike in my gym class

Yeah what’s this about the cutting Nike logos


You have simpletons destroying their shoes over Nike making kaepernick the new just do it guy.
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:12 pm

I am curious about the Nike thing. I understand boycotting them, but destroying their products after you've bought them doesn't harm them in any way, shape, or form. (If anything, it might actually help them, if people end up buying replacement socks from Nike. It's unlikely, but there's probably at least one person out there stupid enough to do that.)

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Postby Vassenor » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:13 pm

Kaggeceria wrote:
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You're accusing me of cherry picking and discarding context. You need to prove that.

The proof is your post. You literally posted a single quote without providing any context for it at all.

Do you want me to go back and quote your own post for you?


I want you to provide the quote that says what you claim it does.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:16 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Yeah what’s this about the cutting Nike logos


You have simpletons destroying their shoes over Nike making kaepernick the new just do it guy.

Have people actually started acknowledging what prompted the taking a knee that started all this?
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Postby Freezic Vast » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:18 pm

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:I am curious about the Nike thing. I understand boycotting them, but destroying their products after you've bought them doesn't harm them in any way, shape, or form. (If anything, it might actually help them, if people end up buying replacement socks from Nike. It's unlikely, but there's probably at least one person out there stupid enough to do that.)

People have done that for years, buying a rivals product and then burning/destroying it in protest. Have we forgotten what happened when the PS4 and XBox One were both released, and people were buying and smashing the consoles. I don't necessarily understand the concept either though, just seems like a waste of money, it'd be better to just not buy Nike products and buy their rivals stuff.
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:23 pm

Freezic Vast wrote:
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:I am curious about the Nike thing. I understand boycotting them, but destroying their products after you've bought them doesn't harm them in any way, shape, or form. (If anything, it might actually help them, if people end up buying replacement socks from Nike. It's unlikely, but there's probably at least one person out there stupid enough to do that.)

People have done that for years, buying a rivals product and then burning/destroying it in protest. Have we forgotten what happened when the PS4 and XBox One were both released, and people were buying and smashing the consoles. I don't necessarily understand the concept either though, just seems like a waste of money, it'd be better to just not buy Nike products and buy their rivals stuff.

If you buy a product and then destroy it, you still paid for it. The company (usually) doesn't care what you do with it after you buy it, since they got their money. Boycotting the product would be infinitely more helpful, since 1) you get a similar product and 2) you didn't pay the people you hate. That's just basic economics.
I feel like I'd be less confused about this if the people doing it weren't the ones who frequently brag about being economically literate.

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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:24 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Yeah what’s this about the cutting Nike logos


You have simpletons destroying their shoes over Nike making kaepernick the new just do it guy.


Let's just hope they remember to take them off before setting fire to them.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:25 pm

And if you want context, it's not like Trump has been subtle about wanting protesting against him to be banned. Or about calling for people to use violence against protesters.
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Postby Freezic Vast » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:26 pm

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:People have done that for years, buying a rivals product and then burning/destroying it in protest. Have we forgotten what happened when the PS4 and XBox One were both released, and people were buying and smashing the consoles. I don't necessarily understand the concept either though, just seems like a waste of money, it'd be better to just not buy Nike products and buy their rivals stuff.

If you buy a product and then destroy it, you still paid for it. The company (usually) doesn't care what you do with it after you buy it, since they got their money. Boycotting the product would be infinitely more helpful, since 1) you get a similar product and 2) you didn't pay the people you hate. That's just basic economics.
I feel like I'd be less confused about this if the people doing it weren't the ones who frequently brag about being economically literate.

That's kind of my point. If I don't like a product for whatever reason, why pay money for it, especially if there are other companies that sell a similar product. It's like Coca-Cola and Pepsi, or McDonald's and Burger King. If I don't like one, I could just choose the other one. Why would I buy Nike when I could buy Adidas, or Puma, or any other clothing companies products.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:28 pm

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:I am curious about the Nike thing. I understand boycotting them, but destroying their products after you've bought them doesn't harm them in any way, shape, or form. (If anything, it might actually help them, if people end up buying replacement socks from Nike. It's unlikely, but there's probably at least one person out there stupid enough to do that.)

It's not about harming Nike, it's about showing people that you are very mad indeed at the kneeling football man.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:33 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
You have simpletons destroying their shoes over Nike making kaepernick the new just do it guy.

Have people actually started acknowledging what prompted the taking a knee that started all this?


Nope. It's still he was insulting the military.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:35 pm

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:I am curious about the Nike thing. I understand boycotting them, but destroying their products after you've bought them doesn't harm them in any way, shape, or form. (If anything, it might actually help them, if people end up buying replacement socks from Nike. It's unlikely, but there's probably at least one person out there stupid enough to do that.)


Well? If you go back in time to the Exxon Valdez spill. People were "exxon is the devil! BOYCOTT!!!!" Exxon dropped prices and then the excuses came out for why the stopped boycotting....
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:36 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:I am curious about the Nike thing. I understand boycotting them, but destroying their products after you've bought them doesn't harm them in any way, shape, or form. (If anything, it might actually help them, if people end up buying replacement socks from Nike. It's unlikely, but there's probably at least one person out there stupid enough to do that.)

It's not about harming Nike, it's about showing people that you are very mad indeed at the kneeling football man.


They could save time and take out 80+ dollars and burn that.

SEE NIKE YOU COULD HAVE HAD THIS!!!!!
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Postby Telconi » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:39 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:I am curious about the Nike thing. I understand boycotting them, but destroying their products after you've bought them doesn't harm them in any way, shape, or form. (If anything, it might actually help them, if people end up buying replacement socks from Nike. It's unlikely, but there's probably at least one person out there stupid enough to do that.)


Well? If you go back in time to the Exxon Valdez spill. People were "exxon is the devil! BOYCOTT!!!!" Exxon dropped prices and then the excuses came out for why the stopped boycotting....


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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:41 pm

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At the Supreme Court hearings, and he's not entirely wrong about that.

Vass is leaving out key information? I’m shocked I tell you
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:44 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:I am curious about the Nike thing. I understand boycotting them, but destroying their products after you've bought them doesn't harm them in any way, shape, or form. (If anything, it might actually help them, if people end up buying replacement socks from Nike. It's unlikely, but there's probably at least one person out there stupid enough to do that.)


Well? If you go back in time to the Exxon Valdez spill. People were "exxon is the devil! BOYCOTT!!!!" Exxon dropped prices and then the excuses came out for why the stopped boycotting....

Even in that case, Exxon still lost money because they had to drop prices. Not as much as they would have if the boycott had continued, but still some.
If something similar is happening with Nike (I don't know if it is, since everything I can find online talking about it is talking about their stock prices, not their products), then that could make at least some sense, but the whole issue is just... idiotic.
And it's not like Nike wasn't expecting something like this to happen, anyway. They knew what was coming when they signed the man's contract. Literally the only people here who stand to lose a lot of money are the ones ripping their footwear in half.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:44 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Kaggeceria wrote:...at a hearing for a Supreme Court nominee. And he's right.

But hey if you wanna cherry pick quotes and post them out of context then go right ahead. You have every right to be wrong.

And this is what you consider to be "something real"?


So let's see the whole quote including the context.


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The situation in question, if you aren't following, is hecklers and protesters making themselves look like asses during the Kavanaugh hearings. He's absolutely correct in that it's embarrassing for the country to allow morons to stand up and start screeching about shit while we're trying to evaluate the merits of a potential Justice.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:45 pm

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Well? If you go back in time to the Exxon Valdez spill. People were "exxon is the devil! BOYCOTT!!!!" Exxon dropped prices and then the excuses came out for why the stopped boycotting....

Even in that case, Exxon still lost money because they had to drop prices. Not as much as they would have if the boycott had continued, but still some.
If something similar is happening with Nike (I don't know if it is, since everything I can find online talking about it is talking about their stock prices, not their products), then that could make at least some sense, but the whole issue is just... idiotic.
And it's not like Nike wasn't expecting something like this to happen, anyway. They knew what was coming when they signed the man's contract. Literally the only people here who stand to lose a lot of money are the ones ripping their footwear in half.

Something I saw said that they had a 4 Billion drop in sales revenue
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:47 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:Even in that case, Exxon still lost money because they had to drop prices. Not as much as they would have if the boycott had continued, but still some.
If something similar is happening with Nike (I don't know if it is, since everything I can find online talking about it is talking about their stock prices, not their products), then that could make at least some sense, but the whole issue is just... idiotic.
And it's not like Nike wasn't expecting something like this to happen, anyway. They knew what was coming when they signed the man's contract. Literally the only people here who stand to lose a lot of money are the ones ripping their footwear in half.

Something I saw said that they had a 4 Billion drop in sales revenue

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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:50 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Something I saw said that they had a 4 Billion drop in sales revenue

Nike or Exxon?

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