Im not altalking aboit American involvement in the war. Don’t know where you’re getting that from. Anyway, it was the Axis’ fault that America got involved.
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by Sovaal » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:29 pm
by Khataiy » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:29 pm
Uxupox wrote:Khataiy wrote:US policy at the time and stances regarding Germany and Japan was rather provocative and standoffish, it was bound to happen, so in reality the US could have prevented it by acting wiser on an international scale, as well as engaging in dialogue with the axis powers post-Pearl harbor instead of going full gun-ho into war sparing the lives of hundreds of thousands.
Sorry buddy but the Imperial Japanese nor the German Reich dictated American foreign policy. They decided to attack the United States out of their own measure not our damn fault they got what they deserved.
by Uxupox » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:29 pm
Bakery Hill wrote:Oil exporting People wrote:
I'll try to find it if I can, it was a super fascinating read; roughly similar events occurred in Japan, in that GIs began siding with the locals pretty well. With regards to Germany in particular, there is at least one verified instance of a Mexican stand off between Soviet and American units when the Americans attempted to intervene against rapes being carried out by the Soviets against German women. The American GI stance was also partially responsible for the ending of no fraternization rules and the change of official policy on the reconstruction of Germany on the whole.
Ending no fraternisation was a mistake. It should still be in place.
by Bakery Hill » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:29 pm
Uxupox wrote:Khataiy wrote:US policy at the time and stances regarding Germany and Japan was rather provocative and standoffish, it was bound to happen, so in reality the US could have prevented it by acting wiser on an international scale, as well as engaging in dialogue with the axis powers post-Pearl harbor instead of going full gun-ho into war sparing the lives of hundreds of thousands.
Sorry buddy but the Imperial Japanese nor the German Reich dictated American foreign policy. They decided to attack the United States out of their own measure not our damn fault they got what they deserved.
by Sovaal » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:30 pm
Dogmeat wrote:Sovaal wrote:You accept Wikipedia?
Yes. As I said, I find the story plausible.
Just, you know, c'mon guys, it's the Daily Mail. They're not exactly scholars over there.
by Bakery Hill » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:30 pm
by Uxupox » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:30 pm
Khataiy wrote:Uxupox wrote:
Sorry buddy but the Imperial Japanese nor the German Reich dictated American foreign policy. They decided to attack the United States out of their own measure not our damn fault they got what they deserved.
American policy was to arm the British and French militaries and to completely reject dialogue with Japan and this was prior to pearl harbor, America had no business arming the British or French it was a huge waste of money and allies protecting Poland was also ridiculous and quite pointless.
by Khataiy » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:30 pm
Sovaal wrote:Khataiy wrote:The holocaust wasn't well known when America entered the war, so on account of pure ignorance, it would have been a good case of let sleeping dogs lie.
Im not altalking aboit American involvement in the war. Don’t know where you’re getting that from. Anyway, it was the Axis’ fault that America got involved.
by Rhodevus » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:30 pm
Khataiy wrote:Uxupox wrote:
Sorry buddy but the Imperial Japanese nor the German Reich dictated American foreign policy. They decided to attack the United States out of their own measure not our damn fault they got what they deserved.
American policy was to arm the British and French militaries and to completely reject dialogue with Japan and this was prior to pearl harbor, America had no business arming the British or French it was a huge waste of money and allies protecting Poland was also ridiculous and quite pointless.
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by Kanadorika » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:30 pm
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by Strength and Order » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:30 pm
Khataiy wrote:Strength and Order wrote:
Japan attacked the USA and then declared war immediately after, followed by Germany. What exactly was the US supposed to do, just let itself be invaded?
US policy at the time and stances regarding Germany and Japan was rather provocative and standoffish, it was bound to happen, so in reality the US could have prevented it by acting wiser on an international scale, as well as engaging in dialogue with the axis powers post-Pearl harbor instead of going full gun-ho into war sparing the lives of hundreds of thousands.
by Uxupox » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:31 pm
by Sovaal » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:31 pm
Khataiy wrote:Uxupox wrote:
Sorry buddy but the Imperial Japanese nor the German Reich dictated American foreign policy. They decided to attack the United States out of their own measure not our damn fault they got what they deserved.
American policy was to arm the British and French militaries and to completely reject dialogue with Japan and this was prior to pearl harbor, America had no business arming the British or French it was a huge waste of money and allies protecting Poland was also ridiculous and quite pointless.
by Khataiy » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:31 pm
Uxupox wrote:Khataiy wrote:American policy was to arm the British and French militaries and to completely reject dialogue with Japan and this was prior to pearl harbor, America had no business arming the British or French it was a huge waste of money and allies protecting Poland was also ridiculous and quite pointless.
What dialogue? It was more like give us your shit or we bombed. They decided to chose the latter.
by Rhodevus » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:32 pm
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by Bakery Hill » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:32 pm
by Sovaal » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:33 pm
Khataiy wrote:Sovaal wrote:Im not altalking aboit American involvement in the war. Don’t know where you’re getting that from. Anyway, it was the Axis’ fault that America got involved.
Like I said if there was better dialogue this whole thing could have been avoided, but instead Roosevelt was busy thinking with what's between his legs than what would have been the more logical outcome based on simple wisdom.
by Khataiy » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:33 pm
Rhodevus wrote:Khataiy wrote:American policy was to arm the British and French militaries and to completely reject dialogue with Japan and this was prior to pearl harbor, America had no business arming the British or French it was a huge waste of money and allies protecting Poland was also ridiculous and quite pointless.
Well, the reason for lack of dialogue with Japan was because of their ongoing invasion of China.
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:33 pm
Uxupox wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:It is technically illegal and on principal it is a war crime.
That said, what the GI's did was... well, let's just say I'm not going to shed any tears over the death of Nazi fucksticks who killed innocent people.
And....where I in General Patton's position, yeah I'd burn those papers too.
I didn't see no war crime being committed there.
by Providenska » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:34 pm
by Khataiy » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:34 pm
Uxupox wrote:Khataiy wrote:No it wasn't, Hitler didn't even anticipate a war with the US or even Britain for that matter, he even wanted to approach the UK for an alliance to invade the Soviet Union.
Then Hitler's brain must have melted since he for no apparent reasoning decided to declare war on the United States.
by Rhodevus » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:34 pm
Khataiy wrote:Rhodevus wrote:
Well, the reason for lack of dialogue with Japan was because of their ongoing invasion of China.
I disagree with the Japanese invasion of China and would have condemned it if I was alive at the time, but with this being said, it would have been best to look the other way.
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by Kanadorika » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:34 pm
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by Sovaal » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:34 pm
Uxupox wrote:Khataiy wrote:No it wasn't, Hitler didn't even anticipate a war with the US or even Britain for that matter, he even wanted to approach the UK for an alliance to invade the Soviet Union.
Then Hitler's brain must have melted since he for no apparent reasoning decided to declare war on the United States.
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