On the Dachau Massacre

[Strength and Order]

The SS often executed prisoners. Anyway, the killing was stopped pretty quickly. And honestly it was a far better fate than they deserved.

Yet again vindictive and hypocritical, America should have never gotten involved.

...You realize Germany declared war on the US, right?

[Oil exporting People]

I'd be interested to see the work. But that seems to be the case for any displaced group sadly enough. They become a Problem and that breeds resentment.

I'll try to find it if I can, it was a super fascinating read; roughly similar events occurred in Japan, in that GIs began siding with the locals pretty well. With regards to Germany in particular, there is at least one verified instance of a Mexican stand off between Soviet and American units when the Americans attempted to intervene against rapes being carried out by the Soviets against German women. The American GI stance was also partially responsible for the ending of no fraternization rules and the change of official policy on the reconstruction of Germany on the whole.

[Kowani]

Understandable, but still unlawful.

Yeah, pretty much this. The SS members morally deserved to die though.

[Khataiy]

Yet again vindictive and hypocritical, America should have never gotten involved.

For the record, Germany declared war on them.

After the US declared war on Japan, the thing is Pearl Harbor should have never happened.

[Strength and Order]

For the record, Germany declared war on them.

After the US declared war on Japan, the thing is Pearl Harbor should have never happened.

Japan attacked the USA and then declared war immediately after, followed by Germany. What exactly was the US supposed to do, just let itself be invaded?

[Uxupox]

For the record, Germany declared war on them.

After the US declared war on Japan, the thing is Pearl Harbor should have never happened.

???? What lol.

[Dogmeat]

For the record, Germany declared war on them.

After the US declared war on Japan, the thing is Pearl Harbor should have never happened.

Japan refused to declare war on the Soviet Union, so Germany could easily have declined war with America. I agree that Pearl Harbor should never have happened, but you can hardly blame the Americans for that.

[Kanadorika]

For the record, Germany declared war on them.

After the US declared war on Japan, the thing is Pearl Harbor should have never happened.

So the US shouldn't declare war on a foreign power which devastated a naval fleet and killed thousands of sailors? I'm not sure what you are trying to get at.

[Rhodevus]

For the record, Germany declared war on them.

After the US declared war on Japan, the thing is Pearl Harbor should have never happened.

Just because it shouldn't have, doesn't mean it didn't. It still happened, so debating whether or not it should have happened isn't necessary for this

[Sovaal]

I find this story plausible, but the Daily Mail is not a reliable source for anything, and especially not this given their Nazi sympathies.

You accept Wikipedia?

[Sovaal]

The SS often executed prisoners. Anyway, the killing was stopped pretty quickly. And honestly it was a far better fate than they deserved.

Yet again vindictive and hypocritical, America should have never gotten involved.

And the Nazis should have never committed the holocaust.

[Strength and Order]

After the US declared war on Japan, the thing is Pearl Harbor should have never happened.

So the US shouldn't declare war on a foreign power which devastated a naval fleet and killed thousands of sailors? I'm not sure what you are trying to get at.

I'm guessing he's going to argue about how it was somehow America's fault that they were bombed and attacked by an aggressive foreign power.

[Dogmeat]

I find this story plausible, but the Daily Mail is not a reliable source for anything, and especially not this given their Nazi sympathies.

You accept Wikipedia?

Yes. As I said, I find the story plausible.

Just, you know, c'mon guys, it's the Daily Mail. They're not exactly scholars over there.

[Bombadil]

So the US shouldn't declare war on a foreign power which devastated a naval fleet and killed thousands of sailors? I'm not sure what you are trying to get at.

I'm guessing he's going to argue about how it was somehow America's fault that they were bombed and attacked by an aggressive foreign power.

Yeah.. and shortly that the Nazis were only interested in rebuilding Germany and were forced into war by bankers and their control of foreign powers.. and all it implies.

Fine people on both sides indeed.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

It is technically illegal and on principal it is a war crime.


That said, what the GI's did was... well, let's just say I'm not going to shed any tears over the death of Nazi fucksticks who killed innocent people.

And....where I in General Patton's position, yeah I'd burn those papers too.

But a trial would be more official and better.

[Khataiy]

After the US declared war on Japan, the thing is Pearl Harbor should have never happened.

Japan attacked the USA and then declared war immediately after, followed by Germany. What exactly was the US supposed to do, just let itself be invaded?

US policy at the time and stances regarding Germany and Japan was rather provocative and standoffish, it was bound to happen, so in reality the US could have prevented it by acting wiser on an international scale, as well as engaging in dialogue with the axis powers post-Pearl harbor instead of going full gun-ho into war sparing the lives of hundreds of thousands.

[Uxupox]

It is technically illegal and on principal it is a war crime.


That said, what the GI's did was... well, let's just say I'm not going to shed any tears over the death of Nazi fucksticks who killed innocent people.

And....where I in General Patton's position, yeah I'd burn those papers too.

I didn't see no war crime being committed there.

[Strength and Order]

I'm guessing he's going to argue about how it was somehow America's fault that they were bombed and attacked by an aggressive foreign power.

Yeah.. and shortly that the Nazis were only interested in rebuilding Germany and were forced into war by bankers and their control of foreign powers.. and all it implies.

Fine people on both sides indeed.

I'm a fascist and even I know that's a bullshit, apologetic excuse.

[The Holy Empire of the United Americas]

And the Nazis should have ever committed the holocaust.

[Khataiy]

Yet again vindictive and hypocritical, America should have never gotten involved.

And the Nazis should have ever committed the holocaust.

The holocaust wasn't well known when America entered the war, so on account of pure ignorance, it would have been a good case of let sleeping dogs lie.

[Bakery Hill]

I'd be interested to see the work. But that seems to be the case for any displaced group sadly enough. They become a Problem and that breeds resentment.

I'll try to find it if I can, it was a super fascinating read; roughly similar events occurred in Japan, in that GIs began siding with the locals pretty well. With regards to Germany in particular, there is at least one verified instance of a Mexican stand off between Soviet and American units when the Americans attempted to intervene against rapes being carried out by the Soviets against German women. The American GI stance was also partially responsible for the ending of no fraternization rules and the change of official policy on the reconstruction of Germany on the whole.

Ending no fraternisation was a mistake. It should still be in place.

[Sovaal]

So the US shouldn't declare war on a foreign power which devastated a naval fleet and killed thousands of sailors? I'm not sure what you are trying to get at.

I'm guessing he's going to argue about how it was somehow America's fault that they were bombed and attacked by an aggressive foreign power.

I swear to god if they bring up the embargoes...

[Rhodevus]

Japan attacked the USA and then declared war immediately after, followed by Germany. What exactly was the US supposed to do, just let itself be invaded?

US policy at the time and stances regarding Germany and Japan was rather provocative and standoffish, it was bound to happen, so in reality the US could have prevented it by acting wiser on an international scale, as well as engaging in dialogue with the axis powers post-Pearl harbor instead of going full gun-ho into war sparing the lives of hundreds of thousands.

So, it was America's fault that they got into a war after being attacked? That isn't logical. You don't appease someone who deliberately attacks you. Europe tried that only a few years before and it lead to WW2.

[Uxupox]

Japan attacked the USA and then declared war immediately after, followed by Germany. What exactly was the US supposed to do, just let itself be invaded?

US policy at the time and stances regarding Germany and Japan was rather provocative and standoffish, it was bound to happen, so in reality the US could have prevented it by acting wiser on an international scale, as well as engaging in dialogue with the axis powers post-Pearl harbor instead of going full gun-ho into war sparing the lives of hundreds of thousands.

Sorry buddy but the Imperial Japanese nor the German Reich dictated American foreign policy. They decided to attack the United States out of their own measure not our damn fault they got what they deserved.

[Bakery Hill]

And the Nazis should have ever committed the holocaust.

Are you pro-holocaust?