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Restructure the US Government

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:23 pm
by Tribes Republic
So I want to know how people would Restructure the US Government from the current branches the US government has into a monarchy and to start off I will post how I would do it.


So starting with the Executive Branch I would make it so that it is still at the top of the government structure of the US. That being said where the US has a President and Vice-President I would give each a purpose with the President being in charge of foreign relations and the Vice-President being in charge of domestic affairs.

The Departments under the President
State, Defense, Immigration, Veterans Affairs, CIA, NSA, the U.S. Trade Representative, and the US UN Representative


The Departments under the Vice-President
Education, Interior, FBI, IRS, Justice, Agriculture, Homeland Security, FAA, FCC, etc.


The Vice-President would also be required to sit at the head of the Senate as is defined in the US Constitution with the Vice-President being the "President of the Senate" which would turn the US Senate into something like the UK House of Commons as the Vice-President would go back to being the canidate who came in second place during the election of President, or both the President and Vice-President would be elected separately as they techically are now. I was also thinking that sense the Vice-President is "President of the Senate" then I would make it so the Vice-President is choosen by the Majority Party in the US Senate something like this would make it so that the Vice-President can directly decide what laws are passed or not but It would be easier to remove a Vice-President as the Senate could just hold a vote of "No Confindence" like in the UK House of Commons with the removal of Prime Minister or the US House of Representatives could draw papers of "Early VP Election" if the Vice-President is elected sparately from the President.


US House of Representatives
The House of Representatives wouldn't really change much as the only changes I'd make to it would be that Representatives can only serve four years in the House and the position of "Speaker of the House" would be an elected position with the same powers as he/she has now, but with one extra power and that would be as the "Head of Government" and the name would be changed from "Speaker of the House" to "Chairman/Chairwoman of Congress" and they would have the power to recall both houses of the Legislature.

US Supreme Court of the United States
This branch wouldn't really change at all but the Chief Justice would be Elected by the people every three years with no term limit as to how long they can serve but the canidate would have to have passed the BAR Exam in their home state as well as pass a new Exam made exculcively created for the Position of Chief Justice which would be a test of their knownledge on the US Constitution which would have to be taken before they could even run for Chief Justice of SCOTUS.


So how would you Restructure the US Government either with or without the current Branches

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:27 pm
by Thermodolia
How the hell is that a monarchy?!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:29 pm
by New haven america
Thermodolia wrote:How the hell is that a monarchy?!

This^

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:29 pm
by Strength and Order
Tribes Republic wrote:So how would you Restructure the US Government either with or without the current Branches


There's no fixing the corrupt, bureaucratic cancer that is the US government. I would not 'restructure' it at all, especially not into a monarchy. I'd abolish it and establish a single-party fascist state instead.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:34 pm
by Tribes Republic
Thermodolia wrote:How the hell is that a monarchy?!


I said Restructure the US Government I got the idea from searching for "Restructuring the US Government as a monarchy" but I want to know how other people would Restructure the US Government either as a monarchy or something else entirely

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:35 pm
by Tribes Republic
Strength and Order wrote:
Tribes Republic wrote:So how would you Restructure the US Government either with or without the current Branches


There's no fixing the corrupt, bureaucratic cancer that is the US government. I would not 'restructure' it at all, especially not into a monarchy. I'd abolish it and establish a single-party fascist state instead.


That's interesting but how would it run and what would it look like

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:35 pm
by Svobodnaya Respublika Belarus
monarchy isn't good. we definitely need some restructuring, though.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:36 pm
by The Holy Therns
Tribes Republic wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:How the hell is that a monarchy?!


I said Restructure the US Government I got the idea from searching for "Restructuring the US Government as a monarchy" but I want to know how other people would Restructure the US Government either as a monarchy or something else entirely


Literally your first sentence is "So I want to know how people would Restructure the US Government from the current branches the US government has into a monarchy and to start off I will post how I would do it."

Then you proceed to describe what is not a monarchy.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:38 pm
by Tribes Republic
The Holy Therns wrote:
Tribes Republic wrote:
I said Restructure the US Government I got the idea from searching for "Restructuring the US Government as a monarchy" but I want to know how other people would Restructure the US Government either as a monarchy or something else entirely


Literally your first sentence is "So I want to know how people would Restructure the US Government from the current branches the US government has into a monarchy and to start off I will post how I would do it."

Then you proceed to describe what is not a monarchy.

that's the first sentence read the last one

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:39 pm
by Tribes Republic
Svobodnaya Respublika Belarus wrote:monarchy isn't good. we definitely need some restructuring, though.


How would you Restructure the US Government

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:39 pm
by Thanatttynia
Tribes Republic wrote:
The Holy Therns wrote:
Literally your first sentence is "So I want to know how people would Restructure the US Government from the current branches the US government has into a monarchy and to start off I will post how I would do it."

Then you proceed to describe what is not a monarchy.

that's the first sentence read the last one

Heads up that the edit function allows you to edit text you've already input as well as add new text

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:40 pm
by Torrocca
I'd restructure it into its complete destruction to make way for an American Anarchist society. :^)

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:41 pm
by Thermodolia
Torrocca wrote:I'd restructure it into its complete destruction to make way for an American Anarchist society. :^)

Ewww.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:41 pm
by The Holy Therns
Tribes Republic wrote:
The Holy Therns wrote:
Literally your first sentence is "So I want to know how people would Restructure the US Government from the current branches the US government has into a monarchy and to start off I will post how I would do it."

Then you proceed to describe what is not a monarchy.

that's the first sentence read the last one


I already did.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:41 pm
by El-Amin Caliphate
I'd restructure it into either an Islamic government or a Theodemocracy

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:42 pm
by Freezic Vast
I'd create a one party, imperial state, ban the GOP and the Dems and form an American/Roman imperial Senate style republic. We need a Pax Americana.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:42 pm
by Torrocca
Thermodolia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:I'd restructure it into its complete destruction to make way for an American Anarchist society. :^)

Ewww.


... D.C. will be spared for those who wish to maintain old America. c:

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:42 pm
by Strength and Order
Tribes Republic wrote:
Strength and Order wrote:
There's no fixing the corrupt, bureaucratic cancer that is the US government. I would not 'restructure' it at all, especially not into a monarchy. I'd abolish it and establish a single-party fascist state instead.


That's interesting but how would it run and what would it look like


Simple, really. All power would be invested into a single government organism comprised entirely of party members and headed by a strong central authority figure. Said individual would have the final say in all party decisions, obviously, and would be the primary driving force behind all actions undertaken by the state. Should any of his or her actions be deemed incompetent, ideologically impure, or treasonous there will be a vote of no confidence among party members. Should it succeed, they will be forced to step down or face arrest by the party's paramilitary wing. To prevent the creation of a 'cult of personality', all loyalty programs in the military and society will be directed toward ideology and not any specific person - with emphasis on ideological purity.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:42 pm
by Thermodolia
The Holy Therns wrote:
Tribes Republic wrote: that's the first sentence read the last one


I already did.

And it still doesn’t make sense

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:43 pm
by Strength and Order
Torrocca wrote:I'd restructure it into its complete destruction to make way for an American Anarchist society. :^)


An excellent way to bring about a new fascist order, thank you for your support.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:44 pm
by New haven america
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:I'd restructure it into either an Islamic government or a Theodemocracy

No.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:44 pm
by Torrocca
Strength and Order wrote:
Torrocca wrote:I'd restructure it into its complete destruction to make way for an American Anarchist society. :^)


An excellent way to bring about a new fascist order, thank you for your support.


Nah. The continent-wide militia force will stop that dead in its tracks. :^)

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:44 pm
by Torrocca
Strength and Order wrote:
Tribes Republic wrote:
That's interesting but how would it run and what would it look like


Simple, really. All power would be invested into a single government organism comprised entirely of party members and headed by a strong central authority figure. Said individual would have the final say in all party decisions, obviously, and would be the primary driving force behind all actions undertaken by the state. Should any of his or her actions be deemed incompetent, ideologically impure, or treasonous there will be a vote of no confidence among party members. Should it succeed, they will be forced to step down or face arrest by the party's paramilitary wing. To prevent the creation of a 'cult of personality', all loyalty programs in the military and society will be directed toward ideology and not any specific person - with emphasis on ideological purity.


>How to create a Byzantine political court 101

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:46 pm
by Senkaku
So an elected Chief Justice who has to have passed the bar and some made-up new exam on their "knowledge of the Constitution", a VP who acts more like a PM and who controls some elements of the executive but not others, two-term limits on the House, and the Speaker gets renamed and can "recall both houses" (do you mean like dissolve them and call snap elections?)...

Seems like a bona fide NS summer shitshow of an idea to me lol :p

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:46 pm
by Thermodolia
Torrocca wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Ewww.


... D.C. will be spared for those who wish to maintain old America. c:

Nah. Join me comrade in making glorious Stalinist United Socialist Republics of America! If don’t support to da gulag with you