Saudi Arabia VS Canada human rights activists

[Dooom35796821595]

Do you have a source for a condemnation? All I'm seeing is a tweet where they expressed "concern" and "urged" the activists to be released. No outright condemnation.

Fair enough, but the Canadians should know to hold their tongue either way.

Diplomacy! It means communication between nations! Criticism is part and parcel of it. The Saudis are overreacting.

[Frievolk]

Canada causing a diplomatic crisis by calling out social injustice in a middle eastern absolute monarchy was something I did not see coming lmao. Hopefully the rest of The West won't discard human rights for cheap oil... again.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Fair enough, but the Canadians should know to hold their tongue either way.

Diplomacy! It means communication between nations! Criticism is part and parcel of it. The Saudis are overreacting.

How many times do the Saudis have to make their position clear? The Saudis are just letting the world know that they're tired of criticism on this issue.

[Shrive]

3rd largest proven reserves in the world.

Wow...I knew they were good, but not THAT good

Canada is the largest ethical oil producer- our prairies are full of it.

[Dooom35796821595]

Diplomacy! It means communication between nations! Criticism is part and parcel of it. The Saudis are overreacting.

How many times do the Saudis have to make their position clear? The Saudis are just letting the world know that they're tired of criticism on this issue.

No one cares, and no one will stop criticising them. If anything it will only increase the criticism.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Diplomacy! It means communication between nations! Criticism is part and parcel of it. The Saudis are overreacting.

How many times do the Saudis have to make their position clear? The Saudis are just letting the world know that they're tired of criticism on this issue.

Then they should improve their human rights if they're tired of getting called out for it.

[United Muscovite Nations]

How many times do the Saudis have to make their position clear? The Saudis are just letting the world know that they're tired of criticism on this issue.

Then they should improve their human rights if they're tired of getting called out for it.

The Saudi government has, I think, made clear that they don't particularly care what the rest of the world says about the idea of human rights, and that it will set what rights and privileges its citizens will have.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Then they should improve their human rights if they're tired of getting called out for it.

The Saudi government has, I think, made clear that they don't particularly care what the rest of the world says about the idea of human rights, and that it will set what rights and privileges its citizens will have.

If so, they should expect more criticism.

[Sahansahiye Iran]

Then they should improve their human rights if they're tired of getting called out for it.

The Saudi government has, I think, made clear that they don't particularly care what the rest of the world says about the idea of human rights, and that it will set what rights and privileges its citizens will have.

Seems to care enough to diplomatically censure Canada for criticizing theirs.

[The Frozen Forest]

Then they should improve their human rights if they're tired of getting called out for it.

The Saudi government has, I think, made clear that they don't particularly care what the rest of the world says about the idea of human rights, and that it will set what rights and privileges its citizens will have.

A country that refuses to allow its citizens the rights entitled to them for being human beings isn't going to be applauded by the world. Whether the Saudi Government cares or not isn't the issue, as i'm sure North Korea doesn't care either. They will still face action by the worlds governments, and that's including condemnation. I'd argue that Oil is the only reason the Saudi's even are able to conduct such business freely, because once that black gold runs out there is no reason for countries like the US, Canada, Britain, France, Hell maybe even Russia, to not force the Saudi's to adapt to the times.

Whether they care or not doesn't matter. Still i'm curious to see if this incident blows up into something bigger.

[United Muscovite Nations]

The Saudi government has, I think, made clear that they don't particularly care what the rest of the world says about the idea of human rights, and that it will set what rights and privileges its citizens will have.

A country that refuses to allow its citizens the rights entitled to them for being human beings isn't going to be applauded by the world. Whether the Saudi Government cares or not isn't the issue, as i'm sure North Korea doesn't care either. They will still face action by the worlds governments, and that's including condemnation. I'd argue that Oil is the only reason the Saudi's even are able to conduct such business freely, because once that black gold runs out there is no reason for countries like the US, Canada, Britain, France, Hell maybe even Russia, to not force the Saudi's to adapt to the times.

Whether they care or not doesn't matter. Still i'm curious to see if this incident blows up into something bigger.

If it is merely adaptation to the times, then surely that would mean that people are not entitled to those rights simply for being human beings?

[Petrolheadia]

Then they should improve their human rights if they're tired of getting called out for it.

The Saudi government has, I think, made clear that they don't particularly care what the rest of the world says about the idea of human rights, and that it will set what rights and privileges its citizens will have.

And the world has now made clear that it's tired of their shit and only needs the Saudis as a gas tank.

[Petrolheadia]

A country that refuses to allow its citizens the rights entitled to them for being human beings isn't going to be applauded by the world. Whether the Saudi Government cares or not isn't the issue, as i'm sure North Korea doesn't care either. They will still face action by the worlds governments, and that's including condemnation. I'd argue that Oil is the only reason the Saudi's even are able to conduct such business freely, because once that black gold runs out there is no reason for countries like the US, Canada, Britain, France, Hell maybe even Russia, to not force the Saudi's to adapt to the times.

Whether they care or not doesn't matter. Still i'm curious to see if this incident blows up into something bigger.

If it is merely adaptation to the times, then surely that would mean that people are not entitled to those rights simply for being human beings?

No, it means the Saudis are arseholes with enough oil to make it slightly unimportant.

[Herskerstad]

Fascinating turn of events given that the heir apparent months earlier was breaking some taboos.

[Shofercia]

Saudi Arabia be-heading some Human Rights

Oh, Canada, where do I begin? Shouldn't your analytics team actually follow current events in the Middle East before yapping about the Middle East? Don't get me wrong, under normal circumstances, Canada did nothing wrong, and doesn't deserve this, but it's the Middle East we're talking about, eh?

So let's recap what's been going on. Saudi Arabia hasn't been doing quite good. Despite the sanctions against Qatar, that saber rattling failed, and made the workers in Qatar worse off. Iran has quite a bit of control in Iraq, Saudis don't. The Russians said that Syria's off limits, Saudis obliged. To sum it up, Saudi has been unable to even saber rattle, while the Iranians are expanding their influence. Add their rather bad campaign in Yemen, and... in comes Trudeau's Administration.

These guys want to play with the big boys. You could almost see Trudeau pulling up his diapers saying "I'm a big boy now!" So in comes Canada, head first, criticizing Saudi Arabia. What a chance for the Saudis to rattle that saber! And it's being handed to them on a silver platter. Oh, Canada. So of course the Saudis oblige. The Saudis are quite good at investing and know how to make it count. They needed to wave something, anything. And Canada offered them the opportunity. Bye bye ambassador guy.

Am I rooting for the Saudis? Nope. Just pointing out how, once again, someone failed at basic analytics.

[United Muscovite Nations]

If it is merely adaptation to the times, then surely that would mean that people are not entitled to those rights simply for being human beings?

No, it means the Saudis are arseholes with enough oil to make it slightly unimportant.

I'm making a philosophical rather than political point.

[Petrolheadia]

No, it means the Saudis are arseholes with enough oil to make it slightly unimportant.

I'm making a philosophical rather than political point.

It's even worse philosophically.

[New Raffica]

A nation with a large history of human rights abuses gets called out for human rights abuses, and throws a tantrum. It's the middle east though, so i'm not surprised

[United Muscovite Nations]

I'm making a philosophical rather than political point.

It's even worse philosophically.

What is the philosophical backing for universal human rights that can't be disagreed with? There are no self-evident rights.

[Britain-Nationalist]

Diplomacy! It means communication between nations! Criticism is part and parcel of it. The Saudis are overreacting.

How many times do the Saudis have to make their position clear? The Saudis are just letting the world know that they're tired of criticism on this issue.

Are you actually supporting the Saudis here?

Just wondering because your signature reads that you are a supporter of pan-Arabism, as am i.

[United Muscovite Nations]

How many times do the Saudis have to make their position clear? The Saudis are just letting the world know that they're tired of criticism on this issue.

Are you actually supporting the Saudis here?

Just wondering because your signature reads that you are a supporter of pan-Arabism, as am i.

I think the Saudi position is extreme on the issue, but I think the Saudis have a right to protect their culture from outside-imposed changes in areas like women's rights.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Are you actually supporting the Saudis here?

Just wondering because your signature reads that you are a supporter of pan-Arabism, as am i.

I think the Saudi position is extreme on the issue, but I think the Saudis have a right to protect their culture from outside-imposed changes in areas like women's rights.

Wtf
Women's rights have eff all to do with culture.

[United Muscovite Nations]

I think the Saudi position is extreme on the issue, but I think the Saudis have a right to protect their culture from outside-imposed changes in areas like women's rights.

Wtf
Women's rights have eff all to do with culture.

Of course they have a lot to do with culture. A woman's position in society is an extremely cultural phenomenon.

[Britain-Nationalist]

Are you actually supporting the Saudis here?

Just wondering because your signature reads that you are a supporter of pan-Arabism, as am i.

I think the Saudi position is extreme on the issue, but I think the Saudis have a right to protect their culture from outside-imposed changes in areas like women's rights.

The Saudis are evil. They, meaning most in the Saudi government, deserve to die for their crimes against their neighbours.

Not to mention their collusion with Israel and the USA.

[United Muscovite Nations]

I think the Saudi position is extreme on the issue, but I think the Saudis have a right to protect their culture from outside-imposed changes in areas like women's rights.

The Saudis are evil. They, meaning most in the Saudi government, deserve to die for their crimes against their neighbours.

Not to mention their collusion with Israel and the USA.

The Saudis aren't that bad to their neighbors. I'm not a big fan of them, but they tend to stick up for many of their neighbors, and enjoy good relations with Kuwait, Jordan, and Egypt.

I don't like their collusions with Israel and the US either, but it's better than the alternative of letting Iran take over much of the Arab world.