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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:38 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
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That's what cargo planes are for! You can also refit a tanker or two.

Even if the Canadians did get all of their troops there, I mean every single one, they'd still be outnumbered about 10:1.


We out skill them.
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Postby Agarntrop » Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:39 am

Let's not threadjack and make this thread about a possible Canada-Saudi war before one of the mods kicks all of our asses.
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Postby Frievolk » Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:40 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Even if the Canadians did get all of their troops there, I mean every single one, they'd still be outnumbered about 10:1.


We out skill them.

Canada also has an, ironically, more disciplined military, even if its total military is outnumbered by that of KSA five to one.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:42 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Even if the Canadians did get all of their troops there, I mean every single one, they'd still be outnumbered about 10:1.


We out skill them.

Not that much. I also hate to break it to you, but your military is in a lousy state due to poor funding. The equipment is poorly maintained.
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Postby Spaceania » Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:46 am

Agarntrop wrote:Let's not threadjack and make this thread about a possible Canada-Saudi war before one of the mods kicks all of our asses.

Good idea lol
I personally support canada since the goal of a government is to provide for its own people which Saudi Arabia is clearly not doing well.
Plus i dont think we should be caring to much about the nation itself since the nation doesn't have feelings and we should be caring about the real people who suffer under the nation
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Postby Spaceania » Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:48 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
We out skill them.

Not that much. I also hate to break it to you, but your military is in a lousy state due to poor funding. The equipment is poorly maintained.

If a war did happen it wouldn't matter since in the current scenario it would not be Canada starting it so the world would side with Canada
Plus i bet theirs enough people looking for an excuse to annex Saudi Arabia
Lastly the Canadian military is actualy quite good
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Postby Kashida » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:58 am

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Put it this way:

If you have two cats and one cat makes a massive mess while the other only adds a bit of mess, what cat do you blame more?

The cat who did most of the mess or the other cat who only contributed a tiny bit of mess?


Your analogy is misrepresentative of what happened. It's more like if the first cat moved a vase to the very edge of a table, but didn't knock it over, and the second one did knock it over. You can't blame the first one for the second one actually committing to the fuckup.

This is why I dont have cats....or ties to Saudi Arabia
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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:59 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
We out skill them.

Not that much. I also hate to break it to you, but your military is in a lousy state due to poor funding. The equipment is poorly maintained.

Dude, the Saudi military redefines the term "in a lousy state" and "poorly maintained".
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Postby Frievolk » Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:30 pm

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United Muscovite Nations wrote:Not that much. I also hate to break it to you, but your military is in a lousy state due to poor funding. The equipment is poorly maintained.

Dude, the Saudi military redefines the term "in a lousy state" and "poorly maintained".

Yeah, but it's pretty modernized where equipment is concerned, and outnumbers the Canadian army 5 to 1.
I mean, sure, a war between Canada and Arabia would be over in less than a month with a full Canadian victory, but still.
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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:51 pm

Frievolk wrote:
Sahansahiye Iran wrote:Dude, the Saudi military redefines the term "in a lousy state" and "poorly maintained".

Yeah, but it's pretty modernized where equipment is concerned, and outnumbers the Canadian army 5 to 1.
I mean, sure, a war between Canada and Arabia would be over in less than a month with a full Canadian victory, but still.

How so? This site gives the numbers at roughly 170,000 Canadians to 500,000 Saudis. More like 2 to 1.
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Postby Page » Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:54 pm

Why are we discussing a ridiculously hypothetical war between Canada and Saudi Arabia? What's next, Bhutan takes on Lichtenstein?
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Page wrote:Why are we discussing a ridiculously hypothetical war between Canada and Saudi Arabia? What's next, Bhutan takes on Lichtenstein?

Well, duh.
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Postby Torrocca » Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:59 pm

Page wrote:Why are we discussing a ridiculously hypothetical war between Canada and Saudi Arabia? What's next, Bhutan takes on Lichtenstein?


Yes. It all starts with the withdrawal of B H U T A N E S E P A S S P O R T S from the hands of Lichtensteiners.
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Torrocca wrote:
Page wrote:Why are we discussing a ridiculously hypothetical war between Canada and Saudi Arabia? What's next, Bhutan takes on Lichtenstein?


Yes. It all starts with the withdrawal of B H U T A N E S E P A S S P O R T S from the hands of Lichtensteiners.


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Postby Shofercia » Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:04 pm

Page wrote:Why are we discussing a ridiculously hypothetical war between Canada and Saudi Arabia? What's next, Bhutan takes on Lichtenstein?


My money's on Bhutan, since they can form a battalion, whereas Liechtenstein has a mere company. Their training is roughly equal, so I think it'll be up to the numbers to determine... :P


Torrocca wrote:Aye, maybe, but the Canucks will be losing their home turf advantage of winter and ice, so they'll really be up against the (sand) grain(s) here. :P


We are absolutely terrible :P

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Shofercia wrote:With hockey pucks? :P

Torrocca wrote:High stakes for the Sandley Cup this year, eh?

Shofercia wrote:Now there's a cup that Canada might actually win :P

Torrocca wrote:I dunno, the Saudis wouldn't desert from that kinda win that easily. :P

Shofercia wrote:But with quality goaltending, (defending artillery and missile launchers as they take ground,) the Canucks might just have them for desert :P

Torrocca wrote:Aye, maybe, but the Canucks will be losing their home turf advantage of winter and ice, so they'll really be up against the (sand) grain(s) here. :P
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Postby Torrocca » Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:22 pm

Shofercia wrote:
Page wrote:Why are we discussing a ridiculously hypothetical war between Canada and Saudi Arabia? What's next, Bhutan takes on Lichtenstein?


My money's on Bhutan, since they can form a battalion, whereas Liechtenstein has a mere company. Their training is roughly equal, so I think it'll be up to the numbers to determine... :P


Torrocca wrote:Aye, maybe, but the Canucks will be losing their home turf advantage of winter and ice, so they'll really be up against the (sand) grain(s) here. :P


We are absolutely terrible :P

United Muscovite Nations wrote:Canada couldn't conquer Saudi Arabia if it wanted to.

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:We would snipe them to death.

Shofercia wrote:With hockey pucks? :P

Torrocca wrote:High stakes for the Sandley Cup this year, eh?

Shofercia wrote:Now there's a cup that Canada might actually win :P

Torrocca wrote:I dunno, the Saudis wouldn't desert from that kinda win that easily. :P

Shofercia wrote:But with quality goaltending, (defending artillery and missile launchers as they take ground,) the Canucks might just have them for desert :P

Torrocca wrote:Aye, maybe, but the Canucks will be losing their home turf advantage of winter and ice, so they'll really be up against the (sand) grain(s) here. :P


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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:32 pm

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Frievolk wrote:Yeah, but it's pretty modernized where equipment is concerned, and outnumbers the Canadian army 5 to 1.
I mean, sure, a war between Canada and Arabia would be over in less than a month with a full Canadian victory, but still.

How so? This site gives the numbers at roughly 170,000 Canadians to 500,000 Saudis. More like 2 to 1.

It's wrong, Canada only has 24,000 reserve personnel, while the saudis have hundreds of thousands of reserves.
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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:44 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Sahansahiye Iran wrote:How so? This site gives the numbers at roughly 170,000 Canadians to 500,000 Saudis. More like 2 to 1.

It's wrong, Canada only has 24,000 reserve personnel, while the saudis have hundreds of thousands of reserves.

It's usually considered good etiquette to provide a source when making a claim and refuting someone else's point.
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Postby Frievolk » Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:46 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Sahansahiye Iran wrote:How so? This site gives the numbers at roughly 170,000 Canadians to 500,000 Saudis. More like 2 to 1.

It's wrong, Canada only has 24,000 reserve personnel, while the saudis have hundreds of thousands of reserves.

No it does not lmao.
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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:47 pm

Frievolk wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:It's wrong, Canada only has 24,000 reserve personnel, while the saudis have hundreds of thousands of reserves.

No it does not lmao.
Saudi reserve is 25,000 men, not "hundreds of thousands"
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Maybe he was counting the National Guard, too? I dunno.
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Postby North Arkana » Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:48 pm

The Saudis are so hilariously bad in the things that mean the difference between victory and defeat (initiative, training, dissemination of knowledge, etc) that an open war would result in a collapse of complex command structures. The technical skill to maintain their up-to-date systems just aren't there, and they'd have to begin fighting the only effective way Arab militaries have shown themselves to capable of fighting, in an asymmetric manner, but that'd also mean they surrender any hold on strategic locations.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:48 pm

Frievolk wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:It's wrong, Canada only has 24,000 reserve personnel, while the saudis have hundreds of thousands of reserves.

No it does not lmao.
Saudi reserve is 25,000 men, not "hundreds of thousands"
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Lmao, that's my bad, I read 250,000.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:49 pm

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Frievolk wrote:No it does not lmao.
Saudi reserve is 25,000 men, not "hundreds of thousands"
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Maybe he was counting the National Guard, too? I dunno.

I was counting them, but their manpower is in active duty, not reserves. I misread the reserves.
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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:52 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Sahansahiye Iran wrote:Maybe he was counting the National Guard, too? I dunno.

I was counting them, but their manpower is in active duty, not reserves. I misread the reserves.

Yee. That's what I thought.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:57 pm

Sahansahiye Iran wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:I was counting them, but their manpower is in active duty, not reserves. I misread the reserves.

Yee. That's what I thought.

Yeah, on the wiki page, it says 25,000 reserves, and 250,000 total right under it. I just switched the lines without noticing it. I apologize for any confusion.
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