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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:10 am

Sovaal wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
No, i've been appalled at the Saudis for a while now.

Just that that image is just horrible.

If they did that, I'd go straight to my army office and get enlisted.

No use too, only way a war would actually break out is if they actually went though with, or something else to piss US off enough.


Yeah, thats what I said, If they did that would mean if they went though with killing thousands people.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:11 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:They apologized for the image.


I don't think I'll forgive them. Threatening to kill thousands of people is horrible.

My step sister lives in Toronto. I'm from the GTA. If those Saudi fucktards think that they can get off with a 'sorry' like they gave me a medium instead of a large at the drive thru in tim hortons they can think again.

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Nah. Trudeau finalized a deal which he could've stopped, and then thoroughly defended that finalization, so the blame ought to rest on him.


That was one percent of the deal while Harper did the other 99%.

Might as well round that up.

He still finalized the deal, which means he approved of the deal.
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Postby Thanatttynia » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:11 am

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Thanatttynia wrote:Trudeau gave it to the go ahead; as a good neoliberal he has no problem with arming repressive regimes with no respect for human rights to use in unjust conflicts as long as there's money coming his way.


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Thanatttynia wrote:Trudeau gave it to the go ahead; as a good neoliberal he has no problem with arming repressive regimes with no respect for human rights to use in unjust conflicts as long as there's money coming his way.

Being buddies with despots has nothing to do with neoliberalism.

Claiming solidarity with progressive movements at the same time as callously selling those movements out for money is peak neoliberalism, however.


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Thanatttynia wrote:Trudeau gave it to the go ahead; as a good neoliberal he has no problem with arming repressive regimes with no respect for human rights to use in unjust conflicts as long as there's money coming his way.

Or maybe he just wanted to stay consistent with the previous government.

The deal was almost done by the time he got in might as well do it and then not do any future deals.

That deal was 99% done by Harper, so Harper should get the blame.

Considering the arms were probably used to kill innocent people in an unjust and unfair conflict I think there's more than enough blame to go around for the both of them
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Postby Sovaal » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:11 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Sovaal wrote:No use too, only way a war would actually break out is if they actually went though with, or something else to piss US off enough.


Yeah, thats what I said, If they did that would mean if they went though with killing thousands people.

Ah, okay. Realistically, it be near suicidal for them to go through with such an action.
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Postby Torrocca » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:13 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:They apologized for the image.


I don't think I'll forgive them. Threatening to kill thousands of people is horrible.

My step sister lives in Toronto. I'm from the GTA. If those Saudi fucktards think that they can get off with a 'sorry' like they gave me a medium instead of a large at the drive thru in tim hortons they can think again.

Torrocca wrote:
Nah. Trudeau finalized a deal which he could've stopped, and then thoroughly defended that finalization, so the blame ought to rest on him.


That was one percent of the deal while Harper did the other 99%.

Might as well round that up.


Well that 1% was mighty sure more important than that 99% seeing as it was what finalized the deal, which he could've stopped.

As he didn't stop its finalization, the blame rests solely on him.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:14 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:They apologized for the image.


I don't think I'll forgive them. Threatening to kill thousands of people is horrible.

My step sister lives in Toronto. I'm from the GTA. If those Saudi tards think that they can get off with a 'sorry' like they gave me a medium instead of a large at the drive thru in tim hortons they can think again.

To be clear, the Sa'oodi gov didn't make that image. It was a Saudi youth org that did it, took it down, and apologized.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:17 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
I don't think I'll forgive them. Threatening to kill thousands of people is horrible.

My step sister lives in Toronto. I'm from the GTA. If those Saudi fucktards think that they can get off with a 'sorry' like they gave me a medium instead of a large at the drive thru in tim hortons they can think again.



That was one percent of the deal while Harper did the other 99%.

Might as well round that up.

He still finalized the deal, which means he approved of the deal.


Harper set up, started talks, finalized talks, and did all of the leg work for the deal.

All Trudeau did was say yes to the deal that was already done by Harper.

Sovaal wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Yeah, thats what I said, If they did that would mean if they went though with killing thousands people.

Ah, okay. Realistically, it be near suicidal for them to go through with such an action.


It would be suicidal, and I would love to be part of the suicide of those misogynistic, gay killing, human rights abuseing assholes.

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Postby Torrocca » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:19 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:He still finalized the deal, which means he approved of the deal.


Harper set up, started talks, finalized talks, and did all of the leg work for the deal.

All Trudeau did was say yes to the deal that was already done by Harper.


He said yes when he wasn't forced to say yes. Hence, it's his fault the deal went through.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:19 am

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
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I don't think I'll forgive them. Threatening to kill thousands of people is horrible.

My step sister lives in Toronto. I'm from the GTA. If those Saudi tards think that they can get off with a 'sorry' like they gave me a medium instead of a large at the drive thru in tim hortons they can think again.

To be clear, the Sa'oodi gov didn't make that image. It was a Saudi youth org that did it, took it down, and apologized.


Doesn't make it any better. Death threats are death threats.

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Postby Thanatttynia » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:20 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:He still finalized the deal, which means he approved of the deal.


Harper set up, started talks, finalized talks, and did all of the leg work for the deal.

All Trudeau did was say yes to the deal that was already done by Harper.

And in doing so, he is complicit in the killing of Yemeni children ( :
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:21 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:To be clear, the Sa'oodi gov didn't make that image. It was a Saudi youth org that did it, took it down, and apologized.


Doesn't make it any better. Death threats are death threats.

Ik. But it's still a different deal with a group saying something vs the gov saying something.
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Postby Torrocca » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:22 am

Thanatttynia wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Harper set up, started talks, finalized talks, and did all of the leg work for the deal.

All Trudeau did was say yes to the deal that was already done by Harper.

And in doing so, he is complicit in the killing of Yemeni children ( :


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Postby Sovaal » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:24 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:He still finalized the deal, which means he approved of the deal.


Harper set up, started talks, finalized talks, and did all of the leg work for the deal.

All Trudeau did was say yes to the deal that was already done by Harper.

Sovaal wrote:Ah, okay. Realistically, it be near suicidal for them to go through with such an action.


It would be suicidal, and I would love to be part of the suicide of those misogynistic, gay killing, human rights abuseing assholes.

Id rather not have a bunch of Canuck civilians die to have it happen however. Oh well, realpolitik at work I guess.
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Postby Happsborough » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:25 am

This is absurd. The Saudis have proven time and time again that they are nothing but terrorist sympathizers who fund terrorists, threaten westerners and western nations, and oppress their people.
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Postby Sovaal » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:26 am

Happsborough wrote:This is absurd. The Saudis have proven time and time again that they are nothing but terrorist sympathizers who fund terrorists, threaten westerners and western nations, and oppress their people.

However they have oil, so nothing will be done.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:28 am

Happsborough wrote:This is absurd. The Saudis have proven time and time again that they are nothing but terrorist sympathizers who fund terrorists, threaten westerners and western nations, and oppress their people.

At the risk of sounding like a whataboutist, the West does this as well.
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:29 am

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Happsborough wrote:This is absurd. The Saudis have proven time and time again that they are nothing but terrorist sympathizers who fund terrorists, threaten westerners and western nations, and oppress their people.

At the risk of sounding like a whataboutist, the West does this as well.

1. Yes this is whataboutism.
2. What terrorists do we sponsor?
3. Interesting that you try to compare a specific nation with a broad cultural/geo-political group, makes it easier for ya huh?
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:29 am

Sovaal wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Harper set up, started talks, finalized talks, and did all of the leg work for the deal.

All Trudeau did was say yes to the deal that was already done by Harper.



It would be suicidal, and I would love to be part of the suicide of those misogynistic, gay killing, human rights abuseing assholes.

Id rather not have a bunch of Canuck civilians die to have it happen however. Oh well, realpolitik at work I guess.


I'd also rather not have that happen. Just saying if it did by Easter we would have a brand new democracy in the middle east.

Torrocca wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Harper set up, started talks, finalized talks, and did all of the leg work for the deal.

All Trudeau did was say yes to the deal that was already done by Harper.


He said yes when he wasn't forced to say yes. Hence, it's his fault the deal went through.


Why be inconsistent and rude?

Harpers started it, it is Harpers mess.

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Doesn't make it any better. Death threats are death threats.

Ik. But it's still a different deal with a group saying something vs the gov saying something.


That group is also interested in politics and represents a part of the Saudi's.

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Postby United States of Devonta » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:32 am

Maybe this is a good thing.

It will hopefully encourage the United States and other nations to cut ties with Saudi Arabia. No dictatorship should get aid, let alone one who is overseeing one of the worst cases of starvation in the regions history (i.e Yemen).
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Postby Torrocca » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:33 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
He said yes when he wasn't forced to say yes. Hence, it's his fault the deal went through.


Why be inconsistent and rude?

Harpers started it, it is Harpers mess.


This is some Nuremberg-defense levels of denial for Trudeau's complicity in this mess.
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Postby Avidius Legion » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:36 am

Erdogan in cool sunglasses wrote:I've never thought I say that but Saudis finally did the right thing. Ambassador of any country doesn't have the right to speak like that even if he/she is right.

Amen. Saudis are asshole but at least they did the right thing here, that foreign countries have no right to interfere with how other country run themselves and especially diplomats that main responsibility is to keep friendly relation to say such things. They also send important message that western countries can't just act all they want without repercussion.
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Postby Thanatttynia » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:38 am

Avidius Legion wrote:
Erdogan in cool sunglasses wrote:I've never thought I say that but Saudis finally did the right thing. Ambassador of any country doesn't have the right to speak like that even if he/she is right.

Amen. Saudis are asshole but at least they did the right thing here, that foreign countries have no right to interfere with how other country run themselves and especially diplomats that main responsibility is to keep friendly relation to say such things. They also send important message that western countries can't just act all they want without repercussion.

Why shouldn't foreign countries stand up for human rights?
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:40 am

Torrocca wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Why be inconsistent and rude?

Harpers started it, it is Harpers mess.


This is some Nuremberg-defense levels of denial for Trudeau's complicity in this mess.

Put it this way:

If you have two cats and one cat makes a massive mess while the other only adds a bit of mess, what cat do you blame more?

The cat who did most of the mess or the other cat who only contributed a tiny bit of mess?

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Postby Torrocca » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:42 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
This is some Nuremberg-defense levels of denial for Trudeau's complicity in this mess.

Put it this way:

If you have two cats and one cat makes a massive mess while the other only adds a bit of mess, what cat do you blame more?

The cat who did most of the mess or the other cat who only contributed a tiny bit of mess?


Your analogy is misrepresentative of what happened. It's more like if the first cat moved a vase to the very edge of a table, but didn't knock it over, and the second one did knock it over. You can't blame the first one for the second one actually committing to the fuckup.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:43 am

Genivaria wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:At the risk of sounding like a whataboutist, the West does this as well.

2. What terrorists do we sponsor?

I can only speak for the US (so I probs shouldn't've said "the West". The US used to support the Syrian rebels, most of whom were terrorists, for example.
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