That was a good one.
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by Pax Nerdvana » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:13 am
by Ethel mermania » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:16 am
Vassenor wrote:Gallade wrote:Mother Gretel is very, very frightening to be honest. Not on Frollo's level, but the high level of emotional abuse and manipulation of Tangled was very, very real.
And while it came before, Gaston is also quite the shit.
That said, Disney's was a fine adaption of the Hunchback of Notre D'âme. Would have been a lot more popular had it come out today with its themes of social justice and decrying of racial discrimination and hatred of people on a superficial level.
Said themes would also lead to the alt-rightists demanding it be boycotted and some stuff about how the movie was totally written to be 100% anti-Trump rather than being an adaptation of an existing story.
by Gallade » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:17 am
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:19 am
by Pax Nerdvana » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:20 am
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:tet mc tet!
by Ethel mermania » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:28 am
by Abserdia » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:28 am
Gallade wrote:Abserdia wrote:Lust, racism, and power made him more realistic than most Disney villains. Perhaps they thought it went too far, so they never really made an evil character quite so believable.
Mother Gothel is very, very frightening to be honest. Not on Frollo's level, but the high level of emotional abuse and manipulation of Tangled was very, very real.
And while it came before, Gaston is also quite the shit.
That said, Disney's was a fine adaption of the Hunchback of Notre D'âme. Would have been a lot more popular had it come out today with its themes of social justice and decrying of racial discrimination and hatred of people on a superficial level.
by Gallade » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:30 am
Abserdia wrote:Gallade wrote:Mother Gothel is very, very frightening to be honest. Not on Frollo's level, but the high level of emotional abuse and manipulation of Tangled was very, very real.
And while it came before, Gaston is also quite the shit.
That said, Disney's was a fine adaption of the Hunchback of Notre D'âme. Would have been a lot more popular had it come out today with its themes of social justice and decrying of racial discrimination and hatred of people on a superficial level.
Frollo and Mother Gothel are definitely the best Disney villains.
People always criticize the animated Hunchback for not being a faithful adaptation, but I thank God for that.
The original stuff is weird and depressing!
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:31 am
by Hurdergaryp » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:40 am
Gallade wrote:Abserdia wrote:Frollo and Mother Gothel are definitely the best Disney villains.
People always criticize the animated Hunchback for not being a faithful adaptation, but I thank God for that.
The original stuff is weird and depressing!
Everyone must die, the cathedral must be restored. This is your destiny.
by The Free Joy State » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:40 am
Abserdia wrote:Gallade wrote:Mother Gothel is very, very frightening to be honest. Not on Frollo's level, but the high level of emotional abuse and manipulation of Tangled was very, very real.
And while it came before, Gaston is also quite the shit.
That said, Disney's was a fine adaption of the Hunchback of Notre D'âme. Would have been a lot more popular had it come out today with its themes of social justice and decrying of racial discrimination and hatred of people on a superficial level.
Frollo and Mother Gothel are definitely the best Disney villains.
People always criticize the animated Hunchback for not being a faithful adaptation, but I thank God for that.
The original stuff is weird and depressing!
by Gallade » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:42 am
by Hurdergaryp » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:44 am
by Ethel mermania » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:45 am
by Gallade » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:45 am
by Gallade » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:46 am
by The Grim Reaper » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:47 am
by Vassenor » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:47 am
The Free Joy State wrote:Abserdia wrote:Frollo and Mother Gothel are definitely the best Disney villains.
People always criticize the animated Hunchback for not being a faithful adaptation, but I thank God for that.
The original stuff is weird and depressing!
I think Scar's a pretty good Disney villain. I mean, he successfully murders his own brother and sends away his infant nephew (thinking he's killed him) -- terrorising him and emotionally guilt-tripping him into staying away until well into adulthood -- before taking over the pride and -- by implication -- marrying his brother's widows, before completely destroying the lands. IIRC, even Claudius in Hamlet wasn't quite that bad.
by Ethel mermania » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:49 am
The Grim Reaper wrote:Gallade wrote:Even as a participant in French standard secularism that proposal is morally outrageous to me. You can take our city, but you'll never take our aesthetic.
I've always wanted to become a civil celebrant and buy my own set of clerical vestments. Deck them out with a nice disco-themed stole, get some glitter on there too.
by Ethel mermania » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:49 am
by Esternial » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:50 am
The Grim Reaper wrote:Gallade wrote:Even as a participant in French standard secularism that proposal is morally outrageous to me. You can take our city, but you'll never take our aesthetic.
I've always wanted to become a civil celebrant and buy my own set of clerical vestments. Deck them out with a nice disco-themed stole, get some glitter on there too.
by Gallade » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:50 am
The Grim Reaper wrote:Gallade wrote:Even as a participant in French standard secularism that proposal is morally outrageous to me. You can take our city, but you'll never take our aesthetic.
I've always wanted to become a civil celebrant and buy my own set of clerical vestments. Deck them out with a nice disco-themed stole, get some glitter on there too.
by The Grim Reaper » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:50 am
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