That doesn't justify this law. As an organ donor, I have chosen my body to be used as such if anything unfortunate has happened. Consent should be given, not assumed.
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by His Excellence » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:34 pm
Napkiraly wrote:That doesn't justify this law. As an organ donor, I have chosen my body to be used as such if anything unfortunate has happened. Consent should be given, not assumed.
by MLGDogeland » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:36 pm
by Dooom35796821595 » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:39 pm
by USS Monitor » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:39 pm
by Walpurgisnach » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:39 pm
by Walpurgisnach » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:40 pm
by Walpurgisnach » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:41 pm
by Infected Mushroom » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:43 pm
Fartsniffage wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-45056780A new opt-out system for organ donation will be in place by 2020 in England, if Parliament approves "Max's Law".
Under the plans detailed by ministers, adults will be presumed to be organ donors unless they have specifically recorded their decision not to be.
The government said it would save up to 700 lives each year.
In the UK in 2017, 411 people died before the right donor was found, and more than 5,000 people are currently on the waiting list in England.
A similar opt-out system has been in place in Wales since 2015. Scotland plans to introduce a similar scheme and Northern Ireland has also expressed an interest.
I'm honestly amazed it's taken this long for this to become a thing in England. Dead people don't need organs and if they have an issue with donating they can make it clear before they die.
What say you NSG?
by Neutraligon » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:43 pm
by Napkiraly » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:45 pm
And? Lives are at stake is the justifications for all kinds of authoritarians security measures I'm sure you would oppose.
If people are really bothered by the idea of their organs being used, they can opt out.
by Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:45 pm
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.
by Walpurgisnach » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:45 pm
by Neutraligon » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:46 pm
Walpurgisnach wrote:Neutraligon wrote:How are people's civil rights being violated?
It is not up to the government to decide what happens to your body after you die. People have the right to determine what happens to their body after they die. If you can assume consent for organ harvesting, you may as well assume consent for sexual intercourse. From a rights perspective, this is equivalent to necrophilia.
by Ifreann » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:47 pm
by Walpurgisnach » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:47 pm
Neutraligon wrote:Walpurgisnach wrote:
It is not up to the government to decide what happens to your body after you die. People have the right to determine what happens to their body after they die. If you can assume consent for organ harvesting, you may as well assume consent for sexual intercourse. From a rights perspective, this is equivalent to necrophilia.
I fail to see how the two are in any way similar.
by Napkiraly » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:47 pm
Neutraligon wrote:Walpurgisnach wrote:
It is not up to the government to decide what happens to your body after you die. People have the right to determine what happens to their body after they die. If you can assume consent for organ harvesting, you may as well assume consent for sexual intercourse. From a rights perspective, this is equivalent to necrophilia.
I fail to see how the two are in any way similar. You still have the right to determine what happens after your body dies.
by Neutraligon » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:47 pm
by Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:48 pm
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.
by USS Monitor » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:48 pm
by Neutraligon » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:48 pm
by Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:49 pm
Ifreann wrote:Napkiraly wrote:Why should people have to give consent for what is done with their own bodies instead of it being assumed?
Given that the people in question will be dead, that assuming their consent will see their organs used to save lives instead of feeding worms, and that they will have ample opportunity to opt-out while they're alive, yes, why should consent need to be given instead of assumed?
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.
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