Seattle Police Exodus?

[Len Hyet]

Okay let's back up a second. Infallible means "incapable of erring". Police are by no means incapable of erring. In fact just in capital crime cases there's about a 4% wrongful conviction rate.

then there is no such thing as temporary invulnerability in video games (but this is not true)

Okay, I need you to say that you understand that real life is not like videogames. That's very important to me that you understand that.

[San Lumen]

No I do not. I merely call out their actions when they are wrong. If I was anti police would I have taken the exam?

I can't speak to your motives for writing the exam but so far, your posts have never been pro-police

So one is not allowed to criticize the police when they are wrong because that makes one anti police? I have tremendous respect for the job that they do. I took the exam because I want to be a cop and make my city a better place

[Hammer Britannia]

then there is no such thing as temporary invulnerability in video games (but this is not true)

Okay, I need you to say that you understand that real life is not like videogames. That's very important to me that you understand that.

I mean, IM is the person who thought NationStates is a good example of how economics work

Oh, and that GTA 5 is a accurate representation of America

[Len Hyet]

Okay, I need you to say that you understand that real life is not like videogames. That's very important to me that you understand that.

I mean, IM is the person who thought NationStates is a good example of how economics work

Oh, and that GTA 5 is a accurate representation of America

That's definitely a part of my concern.

[San Lumen]

Okay let's back up a second. Infallible means "incapable of erring". Police are by no means incapable of erring. In fact just in capital crime cases there's about a 4% wrongful conviction rate.

then there is no such thing as temporary invulnerability in video games (but this is not true)

Stop making comparisons to video games it’s a stupid analogy

[The United Colonies of Earth]

Okay, I need you to say that you understand that real life is not like videogames. That's very important to me that you understand that.

I mean, IM is the person who thought NationStates is a good example of how economics work

Oh, and that GTA 5 is a accurate representation of America

GTA 5 is a semi-accurate representation of this country, not the US.

[Infected Mushroom]

then there is no such thing as temporary invulnerability in video games (but this is not true)

Stop making comparisons to video games it’s a stupid analogy

It is the best analogy in this case

[San Lumen]

Stop making comparisons to video games it’s a stupid analogy

It is the best analogy in this case

No it really isn't.

And i ask again how im anti police when I criticize them for doing something wrong and when I took the police exam?

I would not have taken the exam if I was anti police. I did it because i want make my city a better place.

[Dogmeat]

Stop making comparisons to video games it’s a stupid analogy

It is the best analogy in this case

Ha.

No.

[Infected Mushroom]

It is the best analogy in this case

No it really isn't.

And i ask again how im anti police when I criticize them for doing something wrong and when I took the police exam?

I would not have taken the exam if I was anti police. I did it because i want make my city a better place.

You come across as anti-police to me because the vast majority of your posts are criticising/blaming the police. That's all I can speak to.

If you are in fact pro-police, then I am surprised.

[San Lumen]

No it really isn't.

And i ask again how im anti police when I criticize them for doing something wrong and when I took the police exam?

I would not have taken the exam if I was anti police. I did it because i want make my city a better place.

You come across as anti-police to me because the vast majority of your posts are criticising/blaming the police. That's all I can speak to.

If you are in fact pro-police, then I am surprised.

The threads in which we were discussing the police they had done something wrong. How it makes me anti police to criticize them for doing something inappropriate dont understand.

Never once have i expressed anti police views.

I have tremendous respect for the police. I even have friends who are cops.

[Liriena]

What's your take NSG?

Honestly, I'm definitely biased, but it looks to me like the police are making a desperate PR move of self-victimization because their authority has been rightfully challenged by their own citizens and they'd prefer reclaiming that authority through deceit than by actually demonstrating good faith and accountability towards the people.

[The Lone Alliance]

You know I realize something, a high turnover rate in policing is actually bad, because that means you're going to get more and more new inexperienced police... who are far more likely to screw up, and we see when police screw up that's a bad thing.

If all the experienced cops leave we'll be left with a bunch of possibly panicky newbies who will either overreact and kill someone, or cower and let something bad happen.

Then again I heard education is having the same problem, experienced people are leaving because they're fed up with being treated like shit.

[Major-Tom]

They fighting in Tacoma now?

[Infected Mushroom]

You come across as anti-police to me because the vast majority of your posts are criticising/blaming the police. That's all I can speak to.

If you are in fact pro-police, then I am surprised.

The threads in which we were discussing the police they had done something wrong. How it makes me anti police to criticize them for doing something inappropriate dont understand.

Never once have i expressed anti police views.

I have tremendous respect for the police. I even have friends who are cops.

if you were pro-police then we would be in agreement a lot more, but its seldom the case so

[Des-Bal]

Honestly, I'm definitely biased, but it looks to me like the police are making a desperate PR move of self-victimization because their authority has been rightfully challenged by their own citizens and they'd prefer reclaiming that authority through deceit than by actually demonstrating good faith and accountability towards the people.

Nothing good happens from the police losing authority. They have to use more violence and people stop cooperating meaning fewer crimes see proper resolution.

[San Lumen]

The threads in which we were discussing the police they had done something wrong. How it makes me anti police to criticize them for doing something inappropriate dont understand.

Never once have i expressed anti police views.

I have tremendous respect for the police. I even have friends who are cops.

if you were pro-police then we would be in agreement a lot more, but its seldom the case so

are you joking? Is one not allowed to criticize the police when they do wrong or according to you are we supposed to sing their constant praises and never condemn them or investigate for wrongdoing?

Honestly, I'm definitely biased, but it looks to me like the police are making a desperate PR move of self-victimization because their authority has been rightfully challenged by their own citizens and they'd prefer reclaiming that authority through deceit than by actually demonstrating good faith and accountability towards the people.

Nothing good happens from the police losing authority. They have to use more violence and people stop cooperating meaning fewer crimes see proper resolution.

How are they losing authority? if you want respect you have to give it in return. If you work with the community and get to know them you'll find the community wants to help the police in return. We have seen a return to community policing in my city and a return to things like foot patrol and its working.

Another thing that could also help is requiring police to reside in the city they work in. If your not a resident of the city you protect what incentive do you have to care about it?