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Postby Kash Island » Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:04 pm

Are we surprised by the New York Times though? I mean they just hired a SUPER anti-white racist as an editor and after her EXTREMELY racist tweets were uncovered they just ignored it.

hypocrysy at it's absolute finest...
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:19 pm

Kash Island wrote:Are we surprised by the New York Times though? I mean they just hired a SUPER anti-white racist as an editor and after her EXTREMELY racist tweets were uncovered they just ignored it.

hypocrysy at it's absolute finest...

Proof?
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Postby Aunsend » Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:27 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Kash Island wrote:Are we surprised by the New York Times though? I mean they just hired a SUPER anti-white racist as an editor and after her EXTREMELY racist tweets were uncovered they just ignored it.

hypocrysy at it's absolute finest...

Proof?


“Oh man it's kind of sick how much joy I get out of being cruel to old white men,”

Jeong compared “dumb*** f-----g white people” to dogs, said that “old white men” were “lemmings,” opined that white people would “go extinct soon,” and used the hashtag #CancelWhitePeople.

“Are white people genetically predisposed to burn faster in the sun, thus logically being only fit to live underground like groveling goblins,”

Here ya go, I guess

Edit: To be fair, these are from around 2014
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El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Kash Island wrote:Are we surprised by the New York Times though? I mean they just hired a SUPER anti-white racist as an editor and after her EXTREMELY racist tweets were uncovered they just ignored it.

hypocrysy at it's absolute finest...

Proof?


Here's some screencaps of her tweets.
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El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Proof?


Here's some screencaps of her tweets.
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Postby Zex » Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:46 pm

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Soviet-mongol wrote:The problem ako with white states is they tend to vote Republican. For the Democrats to win it is necesarly to settle refugees there.
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:So you're so disturbed that people will disagree with you, that you're going to import people who have no idea about what our culture stands for, or, might even hold our values in contempt, just to change an election. That is a very foolish idea in the long run.
USS Monitor wrote:Except it's not going to change the outcome of elections because NH already votes Democrat...

And you shouldn't be talking about it in first person saying "our" culture if you didn't already think of that.
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I used "our culture" to reference American Culture. I'm an American, so I don't think I did anything wrong.
USS Monitor wrote:It's a discussion about NH, not the whole country.
Zex wrote:Except that the linked article in the OP mentioned surrounding states, and OP opened the discussion to the entirety of the US, but I'll add; forgetting that free movement is a thing in the states & implying the same argument shouldn't be applied elsewhere (like south afr*ca being too dark).



USS Monitor wrote:If LNA was a proper Yankee, he'd know. This is really basic stuff that New England votes Democrat, and for anyone to think that preserving the local culture or preserving the white majority would make it vote Republican is just ignorant. (then please explain to me as to why we don't find a country like America outside of America? P.S., you can't, because arguing that culture doesn't effect the voting of individuals is literally an untenable position. Now I'll agree with you on race, so please point out who in this chain has asserted or even suggested we should keep America white.) If you're going to talk about protecting the culture or the values or whatever, you should at least have some basic idea of what those values are (point out the specific person here who doesn't).

The argument article has nothing to do with increasing immigration to the US as a whole. The people that some business owners in NH wants to attract might be coming from other parts of the US. Or they might be people that were planning to come to the US regardless, but they're trying decide, "Do I want to go to California or do I want to go to New Hampshire?" There's just nothing about it that suggests wanting to change federal immigration policies.
Accurate, as the article (from what I skimmed) doesn't actually call for foreign immigration. That being said, the conversation started talking about immigration. It may have not been on point, but in was on topic, until you arrived and blessed me with the opportunity of watching two people screech passed each other.
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Postby US-SSR » Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:42 pm

USS Monitor wrote:
US-SSR wrote:New Hampshire..., like the region and nation it is a part of, is becoming less white. Diversity is strength. Live it or live with it.


Diversity isn't strength or weakness. It's just diversity...


Scientifically speaking, a genetically diverse population is going to be more likely to succeed (survive) than a genetically similar one. I'd argue that's evidence of the strength of diversity, and that the principle applies equally to other kinds of diversity, philosophical, cultural, artistic and so on. Off topic here maybe but still I have to wonder what was the point of the OP then? Someone else weirded out by the lack of diversity in the Granite State?

I got a taste of what the flip side of that was like the first time I set foot in the nation's capital. I arrived by bus and set out walking to the Harrington Hotel on 11th and E. After 3-4 blocks I spotted a white guy across the street and had a sudden impulse to shout out "hey brother, over here!"
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It's only too white when the only wypipo I can find aren't girls /s In other news, no.
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Postby Liriena » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:31 pm

The article raises an interesting and not unimportant issue (minority stress). A systematic process migration of non-white people into the state does sound like a weird idea for a solution, though. I'm sure there are better ways to tackle minority stress without actively trying to experiment with demographics on a mass scale.

Nice to see the usual race-baiters and grievance-peddlers flock to this storm in a tea cup of a story like moths to the flame, though. Never ones to miss your daily Two Minutes Hate, eh fellas? If I spent as much time worrying about homophobia in op-eds as y'all do about anti-white racism in NYT op-eds, I'd be a neurotic mess.
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Postby Liriena » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:36 pm

Kash Island wrote:Are we surprised by the New York Times though? I mean they just hired a SUPER anti-white racist as an editor and after her EXTREMELY racist tweets were uncovered they just ignored it.

hypocrysy at it's absolute finest...

That debacle actually surprised me. I figured the NYT would get scared shitless as soon as people found out about that and drop her. I mean, this is the same NYT that's still trying to figure out if white supremacists are actually bad and really doesn't like entertaining any ideas to the left of Clinton.

Either way, bad move. This isn't even a James Gunn situation (oh gawd I want him back so bad).
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Postby Uiiop » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:44 pm

Liriena wrote:The article raises an interesting and not unimportant issue (minority stress). A systematic process migration of non-white people into the state does sound like a weird idea for a solution, though. I'm sure there are better ways to tackle minority stress without actively trying to experiment with demographics on a mass scale.

Nice to see the usual race-baiters and grievance-peddlers flock to this storm in a tea cup of a story like moths to the flame, though. Never ones to miss your daily Two Minutes Hate, eh fellas? If I spent as much time worrying about homophobia in op-eds as y'all do about anti-white racism in NYT op-eds, I'd be a neurotic mess.

What do you think of Bakery Hill's analysis of the situation?
Bakery Hill wrote:It just sounds like really thin justification for capital to bring in cheap labour.

“We have 2.7 percent unemployment, an opioid crisis that has significantly impacted employability and the reality of an aging population that will absolutely require direct service care at some point,” said Ms. Brady. “And we don’t have a pipeline of talent that’s going to support that.”


But I suppose by concentrating purely on the culture war aspect of it and all fighting amongst ourselves we can ignore that.


Bakery Hill wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Their rationale is that non-white people are set to become a majority in the US, and therefore they need to figure out how to get them to move to New Hampshire before the opioid crisis and ageing population leaves them with a state full of people who can't work and need care. That's not racist, no matter how badly you want it to be.

I would say the rationale is probably more "the labour market is too restricted, and to keep wages down we need to ship in more workers, preferably desperate ones." This is much easier for the state to do than to say, fix the mammoth opioid crisis destroying communities. Just let them destroy themselves and ship in warm bodies from wherever to replace them as you need. Does that sound a bit dodgy? Ah well, slap some identity politics on and culture war rhetoric on top. Now you're a progressive! Great PR move.


Looking at the article it does seem more like they need new blood than what other reasons they have in mind.
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Postby Liriena » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:58 pm

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Liriena wrote:The article raises an interesting and not unimportant issue (minority stress). A systematic process migration of non-white people into the state does sound like a weird idea for a solution, though. I'm sure there are better ways to tackle minority stress without actively trying to experiment with demographics on a mass scale.

Nice to see the usual race-baiters and grievance-peddlers flock to this storm in a tea cup of a story like moths to the flame, though. Never ones to miss your daily Two Minutes Hate, eh fellas? If I spent as much time worrying about homophobia in op-eds as y'all do about anti-white racism in NYT op-eds, I'd be a neurotic mess.

What do you think of Bakery Hill's analysis of the situation?
Bakery Hill wrote:It just sounds like really thin justification for capital to bring in cheap labour.



But I suppose by concentrating purely on the culture war aspect of it and all fighting amongst ourselves we can ignore that.


Bakery Hill wrote:I would say the rationale is probably more "the labour market is too restricted, and to keep wages down we need to ship in more workers, preferably desperate ones." This is much easier for the state to do than to say, fix the mammoth opioid crisis destroying communities. Just let them destroy themselves and ship in warm bodies from wherever to replace them as you need. Does that sound a bit dodgy? Ah well, slap some identity politics on and culture war rhetoric on top. Now you're a progressive! Great PR move.


Looking at the article it does seem more like they need new blood than what other reasons they have in mind.

I actually agree with it. One thing that stood out to me in the article was the mention of how this apparently affected employers.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:57 am

Liriena wrote:
Kash Island wrote:Are we surprised by the New York Times though? I mean they just hired a SUPER anti-white racist as an editor and after her EXTREMELY racist tweets were uncovered they just ignored it.

hypocrysy at it's absolute finest...

That debacle actually surprised me. I figured the NYT would get scared shitless as soon as people found out about that and drop her. I mean, this is the same NYT that's still trying to figure out if white supremacists are actually bad and really doesn't like entertaining any ideas to the left of Clinton.

Either way, bad move. This isn't even a James Gunn situation (oh gawd I want him back so bad).

Emphasis mine. The New York Times editorial board has called for confederate monuments to be taken down, and a NYT reporter called out Donald Trump for being a misogynist and possibly a white supremacist. Where's the sympathy for White Supremacy, I certainly don't see it.

Liriena wrote:Nice to see the usual race-baiters and grievance-peddlers flock to this storm in a tea cup of a story like moths to the flame, though. Never ones to miss your daily Two Minutes Hate, eh fellas? If I spent as much time worrying about homophobia in op-eds as y'all do about anti-white racism in NYT op-eds, I'd be a neurotic mess.

You do "worry" a lot, you are being very hypocritical, I know this because I've seen some of your previous posts. I guarantee that if this was about any other racial group, you'll be screaming bloody murder.
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El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Kash Island wrote:Are we surprised by the New York Times though? I mean they just hired a SUPER anti-white racist as an editor and after her EXTREMELY racist tweets were uncovered they just ignored it.

hypocrysy at it's absolute finest...

Proof?

She made some over arching statements about white people as a sort of "anti-trolling" or some dumb shit like that. Super racist? No, but honestly should've been enough for the NYT to not hire her, but off point anyway.
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LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I guarantee that if this was about any other racial group, you'll be screaming bloody murder.

I too love to speculate about hypotheticals in order to pretend my opponent is bad. Totally honest tactic. :roll:
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It is not too white. Ppl r where they r

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Postby Kash Island » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:21 pm

Liriena wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I guarantee that if this was about any other racial group, you'll be screaming bloody murder.

I too love to speculate about hypotheticals in order to pretend my opponent is bad. Totally honest tactic. :roll:


I call bullshit, I would bet you would be livid had this been about transpeople or anyone non-white.
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Kash Island wrote:
Liriena wrote:I too love to speculate about hypotheticals in order to pretend my opponent is bad. Totally honest tactic. :roll:


I call bullshit, I would bet you would be livid had this been about transpeople or anyone non-white.

Bet as much as you'd like. You won't know for sure until it happens, so your bet is entirely pointless as anything but self-indulgence. :P
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Postby Proctopeo » Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:56 pm

Liriena wrote:
Kash Island wrote:
I call bullshit, I would bet you would be livid had this been about transpeople or anyone non-white.

Bet as much as you'd like. You won't know for sure until it happens, so your bet is entirely pointless as anything but self-indulgence. :P

It's a fair assumption to make, but yes, we don't know for sure until such a situation arises.
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Liriena wrote:Bet as much as you'd like. You won't know for sure until it happens, so your bet is entirely pointless as anything but self-indulgence. :P

It's a fair assumption to make.

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Postby US-SSR » Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:21 pm

White supremacists are still sore Roseanne lost her series for calling a black woman a gorilla. Hence the whataboutism and false equivalency whenever someone from a minority group pokes fun at them. You know, the kind of behavior that they call other people "snowflakes" for demonstrating.
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Postby Proctopeo » Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:21 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:It's a fair assumption to make.

No it's not.

Patterns, my friend. Patterns. While not completely reliable, they're pretty accurate overall.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:47 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:No it's not.

Patterns, my friend. Patterns.

Prove them.
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Postby Proctopeo » Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:02 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Patterns, my friend. Patterns.

Prove them.

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