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Postby Diopolis » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:00 pm

Strength and Order wrote:
Estanglia wrote:As a side note, what is the American culture?


I get sick of this question to be honest, as it's usually rhetorically asked by people who think American "has no culture" - as if it was even possible for a country not to possess a culture. So before I answer, I have to ask: are you genuinely asking, and thus admitting ignorance of American culture (which seems unlikely giving how American culture pretty much dominants the world), or are you hoping I won't have an answer and will just make myself look like a fool by being unable to define American culture, or are you simply curious as to how I would define American culture?

Your answer isn't important as I'll humor you no matter what your motive behind the question is, I'm just honestly curious as to your intentions by asking this question.

Well it is true there is no one American culture- there are several American cultures with commonalities.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:00 pm

Diopolis wrote:That's not how translation services work. Translators charge per word- and government documents tend to be longwinded.

That's not how contracting translators work. Translators hired full-time by the government are salaried employees, not paid by the word.
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Postby Kramanica » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:03 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:Fuck it. I'm going to say yes, considering the comments in this thread. People who regard monoracial communities as desirable or natural in the modern world can get fucked by the full might of the US government for all I care.

I'll never understand your confounded obsession with making the US less white.
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Postby Cyclonistan » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:04 pm

There's no such thing as a place that's too white. Likewise, there's no such thing as a place that's too black, too Hispanic, or too Asian.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:05 pm

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Conserative Morality wrote:Fuck it. I'm going to say yes, considering the comments in this thread. People who regard monoracial communities as desirable or natural in the modern world can get fucked by the full might of the US government for all I care.

I'll never understand your confounded obsession with making the US less white.

I'll never understand your obsession with maintaining whiteness.
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Postby Kramanica » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:09 pm

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Kramanica wrote:I'll never understand your confounded obsession with making the US less white.

I'll never understand your obsession with maintaining whiteness.

Not wanting to social engineer the ethnic makeup of US states =/= maintaining whiteness

There is nothing particularly wrong with New Hampshire's population other than their voting habits.
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Postby Estanglia » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:09 pm

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Estanglia wrote:Your experience is definitely different to mine, as it certainly happens here in the UK.
As an anecdote, there's 2 Romanian food shops that are a walking distance from my house, several curry shops and a market filled with products from other cultures. And I know a lot of people that still keep and practice their culture and respects and partakes in the British one.
As a side note, what is the American culture?


Can I ask you first what is the British culture? Also, in what way are the Romanians in your example partaking in Romanian culture, and in what ways are they partaking in Brit culture?

From my own experience, the main parts of British (More specifically the English part as I live in England, so I'm more familiar with it) culture is banter and football. Seriously, you can't go one hour without someone joking about you in a conversation, and they're not always the nice, minor ones, and jokes about the Scots, Irish and Welsh are common. And when the world cup started, the amount of English flags on buildings, cars etc. was huge. I'm the only Brit I know that doesn't like football. You also get a diversity of cultures if that can be considered a feature.
The Romanians in the example partake in their own culture as they sell almost exclusively Romanian goods (food etc.), and in British culture by celebrating some of the aforementioned features.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:09 pm

Cyclonistan wrote:There's no such thing as a place that's too white. Likewise, there's no such thing as a place that's too black, too Hispanic, or too Asian.

Monoracial communities are more vulnerable to racialist xenophobia, as seen in this thread by people who are afraid of places becoming 'less white'.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:10 pm

Kramanica wrote: Not wanting to social engineer the ethnic makeup of US states =/= maintaining whiteness

Yes, I am sure that is why you enter a panic every time the issue of decreasing whiteness comes up. =^)
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Postby Kramanica » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:12 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Kramanica wrote: Not wanting to social engineer the ethnic makeup of US states =/= maintaining whiteness

Yes, I am sure that is why you enter a panic every time the issue of decreasing whiteness comes up. =^)

I enter into a "quote" panic when I see a cabal of social activists, government officials and business leaders trying to alter social engineer the ethnic makeup of states.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:13 pm

Kramanica wrote:I enter into a "quote" panic when I see a cabal of social activists, government officials and business leaders trying to alter social engineer the ethnic makeup of states.

Yes, it is truly horrifying to think a state might become less white for some reason!
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Postby Sick Jumps » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:13 pm

Kramanica wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:I'll never understand your obsession with maintaining whiteness.

Not wanting to social engineer the ethnic makeup of US states =/= maintaining whiteness

There is nothing particularly wrong with New Hampshire's population other than their voting habits.

A swing state with libertarian leanings doesn't seem so bad to me, at least compared to some places.

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Postby Estanglia » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:13 pm

Strength and Order wrote:
Estanglia wrote:As a side note, what is the American culture?


I get sick of this question to be honest, as it's usually rhetorically asked by people who think American "has no culture" - as if it was even possible for a country not to possess a culture. So before I answer, I have to ask: are you genuinely asking, and thus admitting ignorance of American culture (which seems unlikely giving how American culture pretty much dominants the world), or are you hoping I won't have an answer and will just make myself look like a fool by being unable to define American culture, or are you simply curious as to how I would define American culture?

Your answer isn't important as I'll humor you no matter what your motive behind the question is, I'm just honestly curious as to your intentions by asking this question.

I'm genuinely asking. I'm curious to see how you define American culture as everyone would likely have different views on it due to different experiences. Like when I'm explaining British culture in my view, I'm almost certain that someone in Britain will have a different opinion.
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Postby Herador » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:14 pm

I have good news for the people of New Hampshire I have this wonderful machine that can solve all their problems. Why, with a single payment of only $3 I can end all racism in the state for good. My machine will make those different all the same and there won't be another problem to be had.

Coincidentally my machine also removes these changes: $4
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Postby Kramanica » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:15 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Kramanica wrote:I enter into a "quote" panic when I see a cabal of social activists, government officials and business leaders trying to alter social engineer the ethnic makeup of states.

Yes, it is truly horrifying to think a state might become less white for some reason!

When it's done for rather blatantly racist reasons yeah it is pretty bad. Stop trying to fuck with people's lives just to satisfy for fetish for decreasing the white population.
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Postby Proctopeo » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:15 pm

This is... kinda disturbing, really. Various elites want to change the ethnic makeup of an entire region because it's "too white"? Besides being fodder for white nationalists and Nazis, it's also racist and some of the terminology used ("diversify an entire state", for example) seem ethnic cleansing-y.
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Postby Strength and Order » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:15 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:True, but race doesn't exist.


That's not entirely true, it's a bit more complex than that. 'Race' is a broad term which has multiple definitions and interpretations.

Ask enough questions, or rub someone the right way, and they show their racist colors.


Racism is defined as the hatred or fear of other races. As I do neither of those things, I would not be a racist. Your statement is therefor false.

This sounds like support for integration, not assimilation.


Remembering your ancestry and heritage is different from letting it define you.

No it's not. It's called integration or assimilation.


Assimilation is a form of respect.

We don't, no do/should we force immigrants to forget who they are.


I never said we should, that would be impossible anyway.

Then get out more.


You're not funny.

Conserative Morality wrote:Fuck it. I'm going to say yes, considering the comments in this thread. People who regard monoracial communities as desirable or natural in the modern world can get fucked by the full might of the US government for all I care.


It's not about race, it's about culture.

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English is the unofficial national language of the US, is spoken by all native-born Americans and most immigrants (including all the Dutch, Spanish, and French immigrants and their descendants), and is printed on all signs, media outlets, and important documents.

Deal with it.

Actually, that varies by state. In Texas, every sign in official use must be posted in English and Spanish for validity, as must all government documents. In Hawaii, English is actually not even the official language- Hawaiian is.


The only reason Spanish has the status it does in Texas is because of the huge swath of immigrants the state receives as a result of it being on the border with Mexico, and Texas would rather cater to Spanish speakers than make them learn English.

As for Hawaii, well, I'm going to have to side with Kamakawiwo'ole on this: Hawaii should be independent.

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Somehow I doubt there are many people in this country that speak Urdu exclusively. At least, not a percentage that really matters.

Or, you know, they can learn English. Or their children can (and usually do pretty well).

Over 100,000 Urdu speakers in the US with subpar English fluency. Costs less than a dollar per-Urdu-speaking-person to hire an Urdu translator full-time year-round. Assuming it's not contracted out.

What horrific inefficiency.


100,000 people just barely scratches the surface of the total US population. Why cater to so few people? Why cater to them at all? This isn't Pakistan.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:16 pm

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100,000 people just barely scratches the surface of the total US population. Why cater to so few people? Why cater to them at all? This isn't Pakistan.

>> costs literally less than a dollar per person

I'm pretty sure adding ramps to government in buildings costs more than that.
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Postby Qroma » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:17 pm

Nationalist Gold Union wrote:The Congo is too black.

Colonize

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Postby Herador » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:17 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Strength and Order wrote:
100,000 people just barely scratches the surface of the total US population. Why cater to so few people? Why cater to them at all? This isn't Pakistan.

>> costs literally less than a dollar per person

I'm pretty sure adding ramps to government in buildings costs more than that.

Why should we cater to them? This isn't Cripplestan.
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Qroma wrote:
Nationalist Gold Union wrote:The Congo is too black.

Colonize

[laughs in Belgian]
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Postby Herador » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:18 pm

Qroma wrote:
Nationalist Gold Union wrote:The Congo is too black.

Colonize

I agree, the amount of people with both hands in the Congo is just outrageous. Back to it lads.
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Postby Philjia » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:19 pm

The states have low unemployment and an ageing population. Getting people to immigrate isn't a conspiracy, it's a necessity. Nobody wants to end up like Japan.

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:21 pm

Strength and Order wrote:Assimilation is a form of respect.

No it's not. If someone wants to speak a foreign language and cook foreign food, let them.
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Postby Kramanica » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:24 pm

Philjia wrote:Nobody wants to end up like Japan.

And what? Have low crime and a strong economy?
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