Massive Ring of Homosexuals in Catholic Clergy

[Adirondack Commonwealth]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transubstantiation

How odd. it would seem before and after the middle ages it was largely viewed as a symbolic ritual.

Then you've been taught objectively wrong according to Catholic doctrine.

[Aellex]

Yes a lot of shit that is taught may not be necessary for everyday life but they are still more useful than anything Catholic schools teach you.

You realise that Catholic schools teach (at the least here in Australia, and I can’t imagine it’s different elsewhere) national curriculum stuff, right? The only difference that I can really think of is that religion (as a class) is a requirement.

Dunno about the rest of the world but here they're essentially better version of public schools because they get to decide who they take and who they don't.

[Baltenstein]

How is this news? The politically incorrect stereotype of the "gay Catholic priest" is about as old as that of the "pedophile Catholic priest".

[Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft]

Source?

....The whole Christ is truly present, body, blood, soul, and divinity, under the appearances of bread and wine....

Transubstantiation (Latin: transsubstantiatio; Greek: μετουσίωσις metousiosis) is, according to the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church, the change of substance or essence by which the bread and wine offered in the sacrifice of the sacrament of the Eucharist during the Mass, become, in reality, the body and blood of Jesus Christ.

As Catholics, we firmly believe that the real presence of Christ is in the Holy Eucharist.

If you want to continue this discussion it should be continued in the CDT.

Moving it to CDT right now.

[Hatterleigh]

Well... 1 in 3 child molesters are homosexual so uhh... They are more likely to be.

Than Heterosexuals?

if 1 in 3 child molesters are homosexual, then that means that 2 in 3 are heterosexual.

You realize the math doesn't support your conclusion, right?

Umm, you do realize that homosexuals and bisexuals make up only 3% of the population, right? That means homosexuals are overrepresented in child molesters 11 times more than they should be.

[Adirondack Commonwealth]

No it wasn't.

https://www.ucg.org/the-good-news/the-p ... er-symbols

I trust this more than wikipedia.

....That's not even a Catholic site. It's very obviously Protestant.

[Andsed]

Well I agree that is not a good idea to close Catholic schools I am going to say this. Regular school teach actually important facts and are needed for society. Catholic schools only teach religion which we don't need to survive as a society.

Catholic schools meet state graduation requirements, so they teach the "actually important facts," whatever that statement is supposed to mean. Religion is quite important for society, especially if you're religious and believe the path to true fullness and life is found in your religion. It's really quite ignorant and false to assert that don't teach "important" things.

Okay after doing some research yeah catholic school do have a curriculum and are like normal schools just with more religion. What I remembered must have been something like Sunday school. But no religion is not needed for society to function. Saying that is like saying we need cults to function untrue. Religion is more of a burden to be honest as we need money to build churches and such and not to mention some of those religious nuts(Cough Cough Westboro baptist church Cough Cough.)

[Aellex]

No it wasn't.

https://www.ucg.org/the-good-news/the-p ... er-symbols

I trust this more than wikipedia.

This is literally the website of a Protestant sect. Why would you trust it more than actual sourced articles and the very tradition of what's supposed to be your Church.

[The New California Republic]

I think priests should consider getting vasectomies or other operations to lower sex drive.

Vasectomies don't lower sex drive, castrations do. On the subject of the latter, Matthew 19:12 says that:

For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

[Baltenstein]

That is why I said "Catholics believe..."

In both perspectives, no new religion is founded or two split from one. They believe they are the continuation of the Church founded bt Christ.

From a secular, external perspective, the original religion split into two different sects, like Sunni and Shi'a Islam.

Don't forget the Orthodox Church, m'kay.

[Hakons]

Traditional Christianitiy does not believe it is a metaphor. We believe Christ is truly present in the Eucharist. The pH would, of course, not change, because the change is hidden to human perception. Just as Christ's divinity was hidden when He was begotten as a human child, His flesh and divinity is hidden within the Eucharist.

I'm talking about detection by an electronic pH sensor

Traditional Christianitiy does not believe it is a metaphor. We believe Christ is truly present in the Eucharist. The pH would, of course, not change, because the change is hidden to human perception.

So...wait, Christ either had acidic blood, or our instruments for measuring the pH of wine are lying to us?

As I said, the change is imperceptible to humans. The pH meters would not be lying, they would just do what they always do and report the pH. The change is miraculous and beyond our perception. The elements still look and smell like bread and wine, but the Eucharist is, by divine miracle, the body, blood, soul, and divinity of Christ. If, for example, one was to cut Christ open when He walked with us, one would not "see" His divinity, but He is still divine. If one were to break open a piece of the Eucharistic bread, one would not "see" flesh or divinity, but it is truly the flesh and divinity of God.

Edit: I'll stop now, since I'm threadjacking. Any more discussion on this should be in the CDT.

[Scomagia]

Implying gays are child molesters and/or accessories to it.

Well... 1 in 3 child molesters are homosexual so uhh... They are more likely to be.

Where's your source for that?

[Scomagia]

I would say that if you are gay you shouldn't join the Catholic Clergy. It's expressly against the rules of the Church. Further, just why would you want to be the face of a religion that considers you at worst an abomination and at best a misguided sinner for acting on your hardwired sexual interests?

The Church needs to drop the whole celibacy thing once and for all. Priests could, in the past, marry. There's nothing foundational about the practice of celibacy. It's not supported by scripture and it's a damn fine way of turning your priest class into a pack of liars because celibacy is contrary to human nature and only a few people can actually remain celibate for a serious length of time. All of those who can't remain celibate are going to fuck, and then they will lie about it. If you have to live a lie daily, well those lies pile up. Every lie you tell brings the next one closer to your lips and drives the truth further away. Why institutionalize that kind of degenerating mindset? Let them marry, let them fuck!

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Heh, "massive ring".

[The New California Republic]

Heh, "massive ring".

[Uxupox]

No it wasn't.

https://www.ucg.org/the-good-news/the-p ... er-symbols

I trust this more than wikipedia.

ask your local priest since you say you are a catholic.

[The Serbian Empire]

I am not surprised that a highly devote LGBT Catholic who wanted to keep their faith would join the clergy whether as priest, monk, or nun. Given those circumstances, the lack of celibacy is because there's enough gay priests and monks or lesbian nuns would find each other within their locations.

I think priests should consider getting vasectomies or other operations to lower sex drive.

Vasectomies don't lower sex drive, castrations do. On the subject of the latter, Matthew 19:12 says that:

For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

Eunuchs also included trans women since other texts mention about Scythian priestesses who had breasts and a phallus consuming of pregnant mare urine.

[Mardla]

I am not surprised that a highly devote LGBT Catholic who wanted to keep their faith would join the clergy whether as priest, monk, or nun. Given those circumstances, the lack of celibacy is because there's enough gay priests and monks or lesbian nuns would find each other within their locations.

Vasectomies don't lower sex drive, castrations do. On the subject of the latter, Matthew 19:12 says that:

For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

Eunuchs also included trans women since other texts mention about Scythian priestesses who had breasts and a phallus consuming of pregnant mare urine.

I had no idea people were so progressive back then.

[Lothara]

Homosexual sex is a sin in Catholicism - and Christianity in general.
Also, if marriage was allowed, wouldn't that go against the rules of being a priest?

Leviticus was nulled a while ago iirc

Isn't that blasphemy?

[Internationalist Bastard]

I am not surprised that a highly devote LGBT Catholic who wanted to keep their faith would join the clergy whether as priest, monk, or nun. Given those circumstances, the lack of celibacy is because there's enough gay priests and monks or lesbian nuns would find each other within their locations.


Eunuchs also included trans women since other texts mention about Scythian priestesses who had breasts and a phallus consuming of pregnant mare urine.

I had no idea people were so progressive back then.

Many cultures had various degrees of acceptance of lgbt people
It’s just that cultures that don’t accept them at all are the ones who prevailed, and now we’re starting to reverse that
I need to remember the documentary I saw that talked about how the church played up anti homosexuality because it was common in Rome, which was going through a population decline

[The New California Republic]

Leviticus was nulled a while ago iirc

Isn't that blasphemy?

...no...?

[Lothara]

Isn't that blasphemy?

...no...?

Thought disregarding books was blasphemy.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

...no...?

Thought disregarding books was blasphemy.

You can literally disregard books if Jesus says you can.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

...no...?

Thought disregarding books was blasphemy.

Well, some bibles have certain books that others do not. For example, most Protestant bibles do not have certain books that you'll find in a Catholic bible. Like, say, The Maccabees for example, is in Catholic bibles but IIRC, not in Protestant bibles.

[Ieskarios]

Thought disregarding books was blasphemy.

Well, some bibles have certain books that others do not. For example, most Protestant bibles do not have certain books that you'll find in a Catholic bible. Like, say, The Maccabees for example, is in Catholic bibles but IIRC, not in Protestant bibles.

We have a lot of other books too in Orthodoxy.