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Postby Mardla » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:28 pm

“At any one time no more than 50% of priests are practicing celibacy.” That was the hypothesis and thrust of A Secret World (1990) and repeated in Celibacy in Crisis (2003) In May 1993 at the Vatican International Conference on Celibacy in Rome Cardinal Jose Sanchez then Chairman of the Dicastery on Clergy fielded questions about my study and conclusions and a similar sociological statistical report by Fr. Victor Kotze of South Africa. Father Kotze concluded that in any three-year period only 45% of priests were practicing celibacy. When asked directly by reporter Mark Dowd, and a reporter recording for the BBC TV what the Cardinal thought of those studies he said, “I have no reason to doubt the accuracy of those figures."


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The article goes on to note that the break in priestly celibacy is mainly homosexual. More disturbing is that this issue is linked with certain priests supporting each other regarding keeping sexual abuse incidents hush hush and the perpetrators protected.

Is there anyone here who isn't upset by this? I know I am. Any remedies you suggest? Clearly it's a serious problem. Perhaps ending celibacy requirements for priests would help, allowed married men to be priests. But with or without that, there clearly needs to be a crackdown. The Vatican should start a serious and wide-scale investigation organization, preferably compromised of married men, to audit the clergy. Use sting operations if necessary. Start requiring clergy to sign agreements that would allow searches of their homes and computers without notice. Be proactive in asking their flocks about them and gathering info.
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Postby The South Falls » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:31 pm

So force the clergy to be straight, and only then they can break celibacy vows. You don't just pick and choose what to enforce.
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Postby Grenartia » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:33 pm

Mardla wrote:More disturbing is that this issue is linked with certain priests supporting each other regarding keeping sexual abuse incidents hush hush and the perpetrators protected.


Implying gays are child molesters and/or accessories to it.
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Postby The Lone Alliance » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:33 pm

What's weirding me out is that this is an Antiquity nation with zero posts on the board until today.
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Postby Mardla » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:36 pm

The South Falls wrote:So force the clergy to be straight, and only then they can break celibacy vows. You don't just pick and choose what to enforce.

Celibacy is attracting a lot of homosexuals is what is going on, since it gives a good cover for their fetish.
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:36 pm

Off the top of my head, the Church may need to consider allowing priests to marry.

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Postby -United Republic of Freedonia » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:37 pm

Meh, but they should consider more that Homosexual sex is sex and it breaks the celibacy.

Question: Celibacy forbids masturbation?.
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Where they're covering up abuse, that is a problem that needs to be rooted out. If they're just having consensual gay sex, who cares dude?
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:39 pm

The Sherpa Empire wrote:Where they're covering up abuse, that is a problem that needs to be rooted out. If they're just having consensual gay sex, who cares dude?

Homosexual sex is a sin in Catholicism - and Christianity in general.
Also, if marriage was allowed, wouldn't that go against the rules of being a priest?
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Postby Mardla » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:41 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Mardla wrote:More disturbing is that this issue is linked with certain priests supporting each other regarding keeping sexual abuse incidents hush hush and the perpetrators protected.


Implying gays are child molesters and/or accessories to it.

I am talking about the raping of adolescent boys.
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:42 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
The Sherpa Empire wrote:Where they're covering up abuse, that is a problem that needs to be rooted out. If they're just having consensual gay sex, who cares dude?

Homosexual sex is a sin in Catholicism - and Christianity in general.
Also, if marriage was allowed, wouldn't that go against the rules of being a priest?


As it stands, yes. However, it can be changed.

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Postby Puldania » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:42 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
The Sherpa Empire wrote:Where they're covering up abuse, that is a problem that needs to be rooted out. If they're just having consensual gay sex, who cares dude?

Homosexual sex is a sin in Catholicism - and Christianity in general.
Also, if marriage was allowed, wouldn't that go against the rules of being a priest?

Leviticus was nulled a while ago iirc
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Postby Page » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:43 pm

If they're having sex with consenting adults, I'd say that's progress!
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Cawcutt, writing to the group, had called for killing or sodomizing Cardinal Ratzinger, because he was seen as an opponent of gays (“Kill [Ratzinger]? Pray for him? Why not just f— him??? Any volunteers — ugh!!!”).


This, I find, is particularly disturbing.
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Postby -United Republic of Freedonia » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:43 pm

Dooom35796821595 wrote:Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

Fuck, i didn't expected that someone would post that.
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Postby Mardla » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:43 pm

-United Republic of Freedonia wrote:Meh, but they should consider more that Homosexual sex is sex and it breaks the celibacy.

Question: Celibacy forbids masturbation?.

Catholicism forbids masturbation.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:45 pm

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Homosexual sex is a sin in Catholicism - and Christianity in general.
Also, if marriage was allowed, wouldn't that go against the rules of being a priest?


As it stands, yes. However, it can be changed.

But wouldn't that be going against Catholicism?
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El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Homosexual sex is a sin in Catholicism - and Christianity in general.
Also, if marriage was allowed, wouldn't that go against the rules of being a priest?

Leviticus was nulled a while ago iirc

Idk the Bible, so idk what that has to do with priest marriage.
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:47 pm

Mardla wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
Implying gays are child molesters and/or accessories to it.

I am talking about the raping of adolescent boys.


Pedophilia is a primary or exclusive fixation on children (of either sex), whilst homosexuality is the attraction to men exclusively, and the actions of these pedophile priests fall squarely in the former.

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Postby The East Marches II » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:49 pm

The promotions are impressive, it seems if you are a shitbird, you go up in the ranks. That culture of booting upstairs troublesome people may bring temp fixes but is a disaster in the long term. With such a culture, it is not surprising abuses emerged.
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:51 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:But wouldn't that be going against Catholicism?


No, it's more of a tradition that the Church requires for priests to partake in, in order for them to seem more like Christ, but it isn't a biblical requirement.

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Postby Grenartia » Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:08 pm

Mardla wrote:
The South Falls wrote:So force the clergy to be straight, and only then they can break celibacy vows. You don't just pick and choose what to enforce.

Celibacy is attracting a lot of homosexuals is what is going on, since it gives a good cover for their fetish.


Something tells me you know nothing about homosexuality.
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:09 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Mardla wrote:Celibacy is attracting a lot of homosexuals is what is going on, since it gives a good cover for their fetish.


Something tells me you know nothing about homosexuality.


When they call it a fetish, you know they don't know much about it.

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Postby Grenartia » Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:15 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
The Sherpa Empire wrote:Where they're covering up abuse, that is a problem that needs to be rooted out. If they're just having consensual gay sex, who cares dude?

1. Homosexual sex is a sin in Catholicism - 2. and Christianity in general.
3. Also, if marriage was allowed, wouldn't that go against the rules of being a priest?


1. Only because of stupid interpretations.

2. False.

3. Only because other stupid interpretations influenced the making of said rules.

Mardla wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
Implying gays are child molesters and/or accessories to it.

I am talking about the raping of adolescent boys.


Which has nothing to do with homosexuality.

Mardla wrote:
-United Republic of Freedonia wrote:Meh, but they should consider more that Homosexual sex is sex and it breaks the celibacy.

Question: Celibacy forbids masturbation?.

Catholicism forbids masturbation.


Which is quite stupid.

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Mardla wrote:I am talking about the raping of adolescent boys.


Pedophilia is a primary or exclusive fixation on children (of either sex), whilst homosexuality is the attraction to men exclusively, and the actions of these pedophile priests fall squarely in the former.


Precisely.

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Grenartia wrote:
Something tells me you know nothing about homosexuality.


When they call it a fetish, you know they don't know much about it.


Indeed. And generally, people who call it a fetish on here don't last very long, because they tend not to be able to argue their point without trolling or flaming.
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Postby Giovenith » Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:18 pm

As long as it's with consenting adults, I couldn't care less.

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
The Sherpa Empire wrote:Where they're covering up abuse, that is a problem that needs to be rooted out. If they're just having consensual gay sex, who cares dude?

Homosexual sex is a sin in Catholicism - and Christianity in general.
Also, if marriage was allowed, wouldn't that go against the rules of being a priest?


They're not interested in following rules that they themselves made up and are only enforced by themselves anymore? Good heavens.
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