Geneviev wrote:The Free Joy State wrote:If they want it? You mean if, if their parents and their pastors and their spiritiaul leaders guilt trip them? If the friends at their church groups tease them?
If someone genuinely, freely wanted it as minors -- and that's a big if; you could see it from space -- they'd still want it at 18 or 21.
And as for "it can be effective". Source, please.
And I mean peer-reviewed research published by a reputable source, such as a recognised journal of psychology or psychiatry, the APA or the NCBI. And I will be looking up the author's other work for obvious bias.
An "ex-gay" blog or equivalent does not count.
If they want to be the way their church or their family wants them to be. If they don't want to be LGBT for whatever reason. They shouldn't be forced to not be the way they want to be.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1025647527010
People are the way their are.
"Being the way your church wants you to be" is alternately known as brainwashing.
And the author of that study recanted and apologised.
This is the end of his apology:
“You know, it’s the only regret I have; the only professional one,” Dr. Spitzer said of the study, near the end of a long interview. “And I think, in the history of psychiatry, I don’t know that I’ve ever seen a scientist write a letter saying that the data were all there but were totally misinterpreted. Who admitted that and who apologized to his readers.”
He looked away and back again, his big eyes blurring with emotion. “That’s something, don’t you think?”
And from his obituary in the Telegraph, it sums up the issue with his study:
The study was seized upon by the so-called “ex-gay” movement who used his argument to push what they called “reparative therapy”.
In his mea culpa, Spitzer admitted that the “fatal flaw” in his study had been the impossibility of telling whether his interviewees had genuinely changed their sexual orientation.