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Delaware bans Conversion Therapy

Postby San Lumen » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:11 pm

http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch ... on-therapy

LGBT rights might be under threat in some areas but in the State of Delaware LGBT people just got more rights as they are now the 15th state to ban the abhorrent practice of conversion therapy as the Governor has signed into law a bill outlawing the practice in the state. For those who dont know conversion therapy is a debunked pseudoscience that alleges ones sexual orientation can be changed from homosexual to heterosexual.

It is wonderful news to see this gaining traction as there is absolutely zero evidence that it works and may in fact be harmful to a child and a teens well being the two groups whom it is often used on. Children and teens have no ability to consent and therefore their parents may be irreparably harming their children.

Sexual orientation is not a choice and no amount of therapy can change it. This practice should be outlawed everywhere.

Whats your take NSG? Did the state do the right thing and should more follow?
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Postby Senkaku » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:13 pm

San Lumen wrote:http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/398450-delaware-becomes-15th-state-to-ban-conversion-therapy

LGBT rights might be under threat in some areas but in the State of Delaware LGBT people just got more rights as they are now the 15th state to ban the abhorrent practice of conversation therapy as the Governor has signed into law a bill outlawing the practice in the state. For those who dont know conversation therapy is a debunked pseudoscience that alleges ones sexual orientation can be changed from homosexual to heterosexual.

It is wonderful news to see this gaining traction as there is absolutely zero evidence that it works and may in fact be harmful to a child to teens well being which is who it is often used on. Teens have no ability to consent and therefore their parents may be irreparably harming their children.

Sexual orientation is not a choice and no amount of therapy can change it. This practice should be outlawed everywhere.

Whats your take NSG? Did the state do the right thing and should more follow?


for fuck's sakes it's "conversion" not "conversation" lmao
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:13 pm

More states should do this as conversion therapy has been viewed by the vast majority of psychological and psychiatric organizations as complete bunk since the mid-2000s.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:14 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:More states should do this as conversion therapy has been viewed by the vast majority of psychological and psychiatric organizations as complete bunk since the mid-2000s.

Not to mention its harmful to the children and teens subjected to it.

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Postby Geneviev » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:15 pm

This is excellent news. Delaware has done well.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:15 pm

I will never understand this obsession some conservatives have with trying to torture people into denying a part of their identity.
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And about bloody time.
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Postby Grenartia » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:16 pm

About fucking time.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:17 pm

Vassenor wrote:I will never understand this obsession some conservatives have with trying to torture people into denying a part of their identity.

Nor will I. Its mind boggling that people still believe in nonsense like this that being gay is a choice.

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Postby The Serbian Empire » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:17 pm

Vassenor wrote:I will never understand this obsession some conservatives have with trying to torture people into denying a part of their identity.

The answer seems to be that they have a fondness for torture in the first place given how they support waterboarding and other torture worthy integration methods.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:20 pm

Vassenor wrote:I will never understand this obsession some conservatives have with trying to torture people into denying a part of their identity.

Welcome to Christianity, denying part of your identity is 99% of the religion.
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Vassenor wrote:I will never understand this obsession some conservatives have with trying to torture people into denying a part of their identity.

Nor will I. Its mind boggling that people still believe in nonsense like this that being gay is a choice.

>Implying choice matters
>Implying being gay would be an issue if it was a choice
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Kramanica wrote:And just like that all of the world's problems were solved.

Don't worry, global warming is next on the list.

Hopefully.
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Postby Kramanica » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:21 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Vassenor wrote:I will never understand this obsession some conservatives have with trying to torture people into denying a part of their identity.

The answer seems to be that they have a fondness for torture in the first place given how they support waterboarding and other torture worthy integration methods.

I mean... I find torture for those who kill people to be just a wee bit different than torture for people who like the same genitals.
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Kramanica wrote:And just like that all of the world's problems were solved.


I'll take "things no-one has said" for $1000, Alex.

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Postby Geneviev » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:21 pm

Vassenor wrote:I will never understand this obsession some conservatives have with trying to torture people into denying a part of their identity.

It's supposed to be to help them, though it doesn't do that.
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Kramanica wrote:And just like that all of the world's problems were solved.


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Kramanica wrote:And just like that all of the world's problems were solved.


I'll take "things no-one has said" for $1000, Alex.

Oh hey, the Daily Double.

I'll take "Overly regurgitated lines in a desparate attempt to be funny" for $1,000,000,000,000,000, Charlie.
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Postby Senkaku » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:22 pm

Kramanica wrote:And just like that all of the world's problems were solved.

Did anyone suggest that? No.

I mean, based on your subsequent post, it doesn't even seem like you oppose it, so why the snark? It seems like a pretty worthy cause to stop innocent kids from getting tortured. What is it about this that pisses you off, exactly? Just the fact that your political opponents are happy about it, or something about the action itself?
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:24 pm

Kramanica wrote:
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I'll take "things no-one has said" for $1000, Alex.

Oh hey, the Daily Double.

I'll take "Overly regurgitated lines in a desparate attempt to be funny" for $1,000,000,000,000,000, Charlie.


What's the reason for the snark? Do you have an issue with this new law?

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:25 pm

Kramanica wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:The answer seems to be that they have a fondness for torture in the first place given how they support waterboarding and other torture worthy integration methods.

I mean... I find torture for those who kill people to be just a wee bit different than torture for people who like the same genitals.

The positions are flipped, for one; it's religious extremists torturing decent Americans who did nothing wrong, as opposed to waterboarding.
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Kramanica wrote:And just like that all of the world's problems were solved.

Did anyone suggest that? No.

I mean, based on your subsequent post, it doesn't even seem like you oppose it, so why the snark? It seems like a pretty worthy cause to stop innocent kids from getting tortured.

"Conversion therapy" has been dying for some time now. This is just virtue-signalling of the highest order. It's completely meaningless.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:25 pm

Kramanica wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:The answer seems to be that they have a fondness for torture in the first place given how they support waterboarding and other torture worthy integration methods.

I mean... I find torture for those who kill people to be just a wee bit different than torture for people who like the same genitals.

It is tantamount to torture considering what some of these so called doctors and therapists do to their patients.

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Postby Democratic Formosa » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:26 pm

‘Bout time; conversion “therapy” is a foul practice. Wish more states would follow Delaware.
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Postby Senkaku » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:27 pm

Kramanica wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Did anyone suggest that? No.

I mean, based on your subsequent post, it doesn't even seem like you oppose it, so why the snark? It seems like a pretty worthy cause to stop innocent kids from getting tortured.

"Conversion therapy" has been dying for some time now. This is just virtue-signalling of the highest order. It's completely meaningless.

This makes about as much sense as saying that since crime rates are dropping, new legislation to further reduce them and to protect people is "meaningless virtue-signaling."

This is not completely meaningless, it's a considerable step forward for human rights.
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