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Posted: **Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:04 pm**

Palloth wrote:
Otira wrote:Check your sac of organic matter with ability to talk privilege.

But if you think about it, organic matter is just a certain arrangement of cells, and cells are just a certain arrangement of atoms.

I go way too deep into things sometimes.

Deep thought isn't always a bad thing. I would just suggest that this issue is too complicated a matter to be able to do away with. At least in this lifetime.

Posted: **Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:05 pm**

Palloth wrote:
Otira wrote:Check your sac of organic matter with ability to talk privilege.

But if you think about it, organic matter is just a certain arrangement of cells, and cells are just a certain arrangement of atoms.

I go way too deep into things sometimes.

No. Crude Reductionism isn't deep at all...

Posted: **Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:05 pm**

Uxupox wrote:
Marxist Rainbow wrote:
Implying that black organizations like BLM and NAACP have been trying to empower their communities? Whites and white organizations inevitably push back. The work we do for ourselves is never acknowledged. And somehow, what Torrence said was ok.

Your privilege is showing again. There might be plenty of jobs out there for YOU, but for a poor, uneducated black man?

im was poor and uneducated. i didn't blame nobody but myself for my previous predicament and I made it easily out that whole with sheer diligence. Maybe people should try that method instead of trying to dick it to others just for the persona of being born.

Well, if you are white, do I have to realy explain your success?

If you are black, congratulations. I am genuinely happy for you.

Petrolheadia wrote:
Palloth wrote:But if you think about it, organic matter is just a certain arrangement of cells, and cells are just a certain arrangement of atoms.

I go way too deep into things sometimes.

If you like going deep, get yourself a digger.

A "digger", huh? HMMMMMMMMM.

Petrolheadia wrote:
Marxist Rainbow wrote:
Implying that black organizations like BLM and NAACP have been trying to empower their communities? Whites and white organizations inevitably push back. The work we do for ourselves is never acknowledged. And somehow, what Torrence said was ok.

It still does not change the high black crime rate.

And who is to blame for that?

Posted: **Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:05 pm**

Marxist Rainbow wrote:
Otira wrote:I mean his over the top hyperbole-ridden accusations look like how /pol/acks think their ideological opponents talk anyway. A big walking talking parody.

Well, if you think i'm trolling you should leave rather than bump my thread, right?

Or how about you stop because trolling is not tolerated on NS.

Posted: **Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:05 pm**

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Marxist Rainbow wrote:
Implying that black organizations like BLM and NAACP have been trying to empower their communities? Whites and white organizations inevitably push back. The work we do for ourselves is never acknowledged. And somehow, what Torrence said was ok.

Your privilege is showing again. There might be plenty of jobs out there for YOU, but for a poor, uneducated black man?

Well you obviously don't care to use your fingers, eyes, and brains to look through internet job boards because you have yet to show how there are no jobs for black people. Plus how is it my fault or that of white peoples that a young black American drops out of school and can't find a job. Like the dozens of people told you if you want more jobs and education for black Americans then the solution first starts at home and the black community.

If these people are so concerned about their education impactiong job future, how come they don't look for extrascholar learning opportunities or apply for blue-collar job training?

Posted: **Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:06 pm**

Marxist Rainbow wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
im was poor and uneducated. i didn't blame nobody but myself for my previous predicament and I made it easily out that whole with sheer diligence. Maybe people should try that method instead of trying to dick it to others just for the persona of being born.

Well, if you are white, do I have to realy explain your success?

If you are black, congratulations. I am genuinely happy for you.

Petrolheadia wrote:If you like going deep, get yourself a digger.

A "digger", huh? HMMMMMMMMM.

Petrolheadia wrote:It still does not change the high black crime rate.

And who is to blame for that?

there is literally nothing to discuss with you if you are all basing worth by skin color. makes you no worse than the damn KKK.

Posted: **Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:06 pm**

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Marxist Rainbow wrote:
Well, if you think i'm trolling you should leave rather than bump my thread, right?

Or how about you stop because trolling is not tolerated on NS.

I'm not. Just because somebody says i'm a troll doesn't make it true.

Posted: **Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:06 pm**

Marxist Rainbow wrote:
It still does not change the high black crime rate.

And who is to blame for that?

The person committing the crime, perhaps? You know, the thing called "taking responsibility for one's actions"?

Posted: **Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:07 pm**

Otira wrote:
Palloth wrote:But if you think about it, organic matter is just a certain arrangement of cells, and cells are just a certain arrangement of atoms.

I go way too deep into things sometimes.

Deep thought isn't always a bad thing. I would just suggest that this issue is too complicated a matter to be able to do away with. At least in this lifetime.

It will take many years for humanity to unite.
But all a year is is the amount of time it takes for a small, rocky sphere surrounded by a layer of gases to speed around a ginormous, burning sphere of plasma.

Posted: **Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:07 pm**

Marxist Rainbow wrote:
Gig em Aggies wrote:Or how about you stop because trolling is not tolerated on NS.

I'm not. Just because somebody says i'm a troll doesn't make it true.

You were quick to change your animal and currency from bigoted /pol/ memes after I called you on them.

Posted: **Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:07 pm**

Marxist Rainbow wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
im was poor and uneducated. i didn't blame nobody but myself for my previous predicament and I made it easily out that whole with sheer diligence. Maybe people should try that method instead of trying to dick it to others just for the persona of being born.

Well, if you are white, do I have to realy explain your success?

No, you don't, we realize he worked hard and did not bother complaining about his supposed oppression as a poor person.

Marxist Rainbow wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:It still does not change the high black crime rate.

And who is to blame for that?

Hmmm... black criminals? It's not like there are people out there encouraging them to commit crimes.

Posted: **Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:08 pm**

Petrolheadia wrote:
Gig em Aggies wrote:Well you obviously don't care to use your fingers, eyes, and brains to look through internet job boards because you have yet to show how there are no jobs for black people. Plus how is it my fault or that of white peoples that a young black American drops out of school and can't find a job. Like the dozens of people told you if you want more jobs and education for black Americans then the solution first starts at home and the black community.

If these people are so concerned about their education impactiong job future, how come they don't look for extrascholar learning opportunities or apply for blue-collar job training?

I don't know it just seems like to me he wants to do nothing with his life and get spoon fed by trying to make white people feel guilty about there skin. That to me shows his true intentions.

Posted: **Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:08 pm**

The New California Republic wrote:
Marxist Rainbow wrote:

And who is to blame for that?

The person committing the crime, perhaps? You know, the thing called "taking responsibility for one's actions"?

But the system isn't to blame at all then. Oh, nevermind, i've changed my opinion now, thanks.

OF COURSE people should take personal responsibility. But the system is still there, and receives none of the blame.

Posted: **Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:08 pm**

Palloth wrote:
Otira wrote:Deep thought isn't always a bad thing. I would just suggest that this issue is too complicated a matter to be able to do away with. At least in this lifetime.

It will take many years for humanity to unite.
But all a year is is the amount of time it takes for a small, rocky sphere surrounded by a layer of gases to speed around a ginormous, burning sphere of plasma.

Uh, what?? Stop trying to be deep, it just seems forced now.

Posted: **Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:09 pm**

Marxist Rainbow wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:It's not a racist statement, it is true that the black community needs to fix a good chunk of their problems. A lot of people who condemn criminals who happen to be black are incorrectly called racist. Criminals shouldn't be considered victims, they should be considered predators. I don't think the guy is racist against his own race, I think he was being hyperbolic.

But white people still as a whole haven't owned up to their part in it? Many criminals are victims of circumstance. Poverty breeds crime. The state breeds poverty.

As a Marxist I identify with the poor and downtrodden! Also, the poor and downtrodden murder and rape simply because they are poor and downtrodden!

Posted: **Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:10 pm**

Khabarovsk Kray wrote:
Marxist Rainbow wrote:
But white people still as a whole haven't owned up to their part in it? Many criminals are victims of circumstance. Poverty breeds crime. The state breeds poverty.

As a Marxist I identify with the poor and downtrodden! Also, the poor and downtrodden murder and rape simply because they are poor and downtrodden!

Do you really identify with the poor if you say that?

Posted: **Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:10 pm**

Marxist Rainbow wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:The person committing the crime, perhaps? You know, the thing called "taking responsibility for one's actions"?

But the system isn't to blame at all then. Oh, nevermind, i've changed my opinion now, thanks.

OF COURSE people should take personal responsibility. But the system is still there, and receives none of the blame.

Yes, because the "system" (whatever "system" it is you are referring to...?) forces people to become criminals, doesn't it(!) :roll:

Posted: **Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:10 pm**

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:If these people are so concerned about their education impactiong job future, how come they don't look for extrascholar learning opportunities or apply for blue-collar job training?

I don't know it just seems like to me he wants to do nothing with his life and get spoon fed by trying to make white people feel guilty about there skin. That to me shows his true intentions.

As the saying goes, "Heaven helps the man who helps himself".

To look at well-known examples, BB King and Jimi Hendrix did not complain about the system not letting them express their artfulness, but took jobs - tractor driving and paratrooping, respectively. And Hendrix was really downtrodden, having had to learn his skills on a homemade one-string guitar.

Posted: **Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:11 pm**

The New California Republic wrote:
Marxist Rainbow wrote:
But the system isn't to blame at all then. Oh, nevermind, i've changed my opinion now, thanks.

OF COURSE people should take personal responsibility. But the system is still there, and receives none of the blame.

Yes, because the "system" (whatever "system" it is you are referring to...?) forces people to become criminals, doesn't it(!)

So white men and black men are profiled and approached by the police in the same way?

Posted: **Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:11 pm**

Otira wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Welp, if he was hoping to post rare screencaps to his /pol/ pals he's gonna be disappointed.

I mean his over the top hyperbole-ridden accusations look like how /pol/acks think their ideological opponents talk anyway. A big walking talking parody.

Actually there are people who are genuinely that extreme. I met them at my high school, and we were forced to watch a play that documented "microaggressions", and how all white people were racist, etc. Now don't get me wrong while this thread is a false flag, and I doubt that the OP actually believes what he is saying. I've actually met walking cases of Poe's law.

Posted: **Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:13 pm**

The South Falls wrote:
Khabarovsk Kray wrote:
As a Marxist I identify with the poor and downtrodden! Also, the poor and downtrodden murder and rape simply because they are poor and downtrodden!

Do you really identify with the poor if you say that?

Perhaps Beria would

Posted: **Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:13 pm**

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Otira wrote:I mean his over the top hyperbole-ridden accusations look like how /pol/acks think their ideological opponents talk anyway. A big walking talking parody.

Actually there are people who are genuinely that extreme. I met them at my high school, and we were forced to watch a play that documented "microaggressions", and how all white people were racist, etc. Now don't get me wrong while this thread is a false flag, and I doubt that the OP actually believes what he is saying. I've actually met walking cases of Poe's law.

Fair enough.

Posted: **Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:14 pm**

Marxist Rainbow wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Yes, because the "system" (whatever "system" it is you are referring to...?) forces people to become criminals, doesn't it(!)

So white men and black men are profiled and approached by the police in the same way?

I don't think "I'm white" is a potent alibi.

Posted: **Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:14 pm**

Petrolheadia wrote:
Marxist Rainbow wrote:
So white men and black men are profiled and approached by the police in the same way?

I don't think "I'm white" is a potent alibi.

Answer the question?

Posted: **Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:16 pm**

Marxist Rainbow wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:I don't think "I'm white" is a potent alibi.

Answer the question?

Even if the police are racist, this still doesn't make black criminals less guilty.

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