Should Democracy be abolished?

[Torrocca]

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Knock off the spamming.

Apologies. Been taking the fun a bit too far. :c

[Northeast Ayepar]

Depends on who the electorate is

explain

Bad People vote for bad rulers

[Frievolk]

explain

Bad People vote for bad rulers

Correction: Everyone votes for what's beneficial to themselves.
So what you're saying, in actuality, is that "the majority's benefits shouldn't be taken into consideration if I don't like it"

[Wallenburg]

explain

Bad People vote for bad rulers

Bad people. Okay.

[Puldania]

Very few nations actually have proper Democracy. We need more democracy, not less.

[San Lumen]

explain

Bad People vote for bad rulers

Thats a consequence of elections

[Hitlers France]

Yes, we don't want some nasty dictator like Charles De Gaulle coming to power.

[Telconi]

Bad People vote for bad rulers

Correction: Everyone votes for what's beneficial to themselves.
So what you're saying, in actuality, is that "the majority's benefits shouldn't be taken into consideration if I don't like it"

Why should I support a majority opinion that harms me?

[Wallenburg]

Correction: Everyone votes for what's beneficial to themselves.
So what you're saying, in actuality, is that "the majority's benefits shouldn't be taken into consideration if I don't like it"

Why should I support a majority opinion that harms me?

You don't have to. Frievolk is just confirming that your ideal form of government is a dictator that agrees with you about everything.

[Telconi]

Why should I support a majority opinion that harms me?

You don't have to. Frievolk is just confirming that your ideal form of government is a dictator that agrees with you about everything.

Well he wasn't replying to me, nor is that statement anything I have ever expressed, nor is it true.

[Firaxin]

Why should I support a majority opinion that harms me?

You don't have to. Frievolk is just confirming that your ideal form of government is a dictator that agrees with you about everything.

Would that not be everyone’s ideal government? You get what you want.

[Abyssal Shipyard]

Democracy is ultimately useless because the lowest common denominator of people are idiots and vote based on whatever bullshit you feed them on TV. These people make up the majority of the populace. They don't care whether their country goes to shit or not as long as they get their bread and circus.
An absolute monarchy or a military dictatorship is more effective. The lower people need someone strong to direct them as has been the case for pretty much all of human history.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Democracy is ultimately useless because the lowest common denominator of people are idiots and vote based on whatever bullshit you feed them on TV. These people make up the majority of the populace. They don't care whether their country goes to shit or not as long as they get their bread and circus.
An absolute monarchy or a military dictatorship is more effective. The lower people need someone strong to direct them as has been the case for pretty much all of human history.

Thing is, those systems also don’t work well

[Firaxin]

Democracy is ultimately useless because the lowest common denominator of people are idiots and vote based on whatever bullshit you feed them on TV. These people make up the majority of the populace. They don't care whether their country goes to shit or not as long as they get their bread and circus.
An absolute monarchy or a military dictatorship is more effective. The lower people need someone strong to direct them as has been the case for pretty much all of human history.

Thing is, those systems also don’t work well

In fact, they’re worse.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Thing is, those systems also don’t work well

In fact, they’re worse.

Yup
Give me a shitty and inefficient government that has to put some effort into caring about its citizens over a dictatorship that makes the trains run by killing and starving people

[Estanglia]

One probably won't kill you or imprison you or do something violent and restrictive to you for your opinions. The other probably would.

But the elected body does do these things...

No they don't. At least, not in the West. I've never heard of the Trump Torture Troops roaming the streets searching for the few Republican never-Trumpers still out there, or the May Murder Militias gunning down the hardcore brexiteers.

[The New California Republic]

In fact, they’re worse.

Yup
Give me a shitty and inefficient government that has to put some effort into caring about its citizens over a dictatorship that makes the trains run by killing and starving people

A more adequate comparison would be a badly-run democracy versus a well-run dictatorship...

[Wabexer]

But the elected body does do these things...

No they don't. At least, not in the West. I've never heard of the Trump Torture Troops roaming the streets searching for the few Republican never-Trumpers still out there, or the May Murder Militias gunning down the hardcore brexiteers.

>Trump Torture Troops
>May Murder Militias

This is the sort of genius we need more of here on NS

[United Imperial Systems]

Correction: Everyone votes for what's beneficial to themselves.
So what you're saying, in actuality, is that "the majority's benefits shouldn't be taken into consideration if I don't like it"

Why should I support a majority opinion that harms me?

You don't have to support it, but if the majority selects something you don't like, you nor anyone else get the power to veto it.
Surprise, but dictatorships don't always follow your beliefs either, but when it comes to democracies at least you have a platform to speak and defend your ideas.

[Telconi]

But the elected body does do these things...

No they don't. At least, not in the West. I've never heard of the Trump Torture Troops roaming the streets searching for the few Republican never-Trumpers still out there, or the May Murder Militias gunning down the hardcore brexiteers.

>Everything is fine as long as there aren't literal death squads...

[Telconi]

Why should I support a majority opinion that harms me?

You don't have to support it, but if the majority selects something you don't like, you nor anyone else get the power to veto it.
Surprise, but dictatorships don't always follow your beliefs either, but when it comes to democracies at least you have a platform to speak and defend your ideas.

Really, which is why laws never get struck down by courts, revolutions never occur, and literally never has there been a protest.

[Estanglia]

No they don't. At least, not in the West. I've never heard of the Trump Torture Troops roaming the streets searching for the few Republican never-Trumpers still out there, or the May Murder Militias gunning down the hardcore brexiteers.

>Everything is fine as long as there aren't literal death squads...

The example I was responding to was that, while dictators kill dissidents, democratic governments will not. You said democratic governments do 'do these things', hence the death squads joke.

[Telconi]

>Everything is fine as long as there aren't literal death squads...

The example I was responding to was that, while dictators kill dissidents, democratic governments will not. You said democratic governments do 'do these things', hence the death squads joke.

Many democratic government's execute people.

[Estanglia]

The example I was responding to was that, while dictators kill dissidents, democratic governments will not. You said democratic governments do 'do these things', hence the death squads joke.

Many democratic government's execute people.

For being political dissidents? Because that was the point: dictators kill dissidents, democracies do not.

[Telconi]

Many democratic government's execute people.

For being political dissidents? Because that was the point: dictators kill dissidents, democracies do not.

Yes.