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Saiwania wrote:

Pacomia wrote:Always about the decline of white people for you, isn’t it?

How can I stand idly by as my kin are allowing themselves to be destroyed via Liberal politics and disastrous decisions such as mass immigration from the developing world?

Neanderthaland wrote:

Saiwania wrote:
This is correct for the most part, in my view. Societies that're run in accordance to that, tend to be better off. Just look at China, they're dominating the world.

The country with a huge number of abortions, and especially abortions of girls, is the one you're pointing to to prop up your anti-abortion stance?

Pacomia wrote:

Saiwania wrote:
How can I stand idly by as my kin are allowing themselves to be destroyed via Liberal politics and disastrous decisions such as mass immigration from the developing world?

Have you noticed how everyone else is fine with this? My mother is Asian and my father is white. Neither of them have any problem with their impure child. I don’t see why you should.

Also, white people being “destroyed” seems like a huge exaggeration. It’s more like white people are being “introduced to the idea that they can reproduce with someone who isn’t the same skin colour as them and nothing would be wrong because white and non-white people are functionally no different”.

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:It seems like an exaggeration because it is. There's no "destroying." It has jack-fuck-all to do with "liberal politics." It's literally a matter of white people are still hoarding resources and wealth, to the point that we are experiencing the first generation with a decline in birth rate because life for whites is so good that they don't need to have children. And white people aren't screaming about racial purity as much or disowning their daughters for dating black men. I mean, there still are some, and they wont shut the fuck up, but there are fewer of them.

Saiwania wrote:

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:It seems like an exaggeration because it is. There's no "destroying." It has jack-fuck-all to do with "liberal politics." It's literally a matter of white people are still hoarding resources and wealth, to the point that we are experiencing the first generation with a decline in birth rate because life for whites is so good that they don't need to have children. And white people aren't screaming about racial purity as much or disowning their daughters for dating black men. I mean, there still are some, and they wont shut the fuck up, but there are fewer of them.

It is no exaggeration and it is at minimum, diluting the White skin color and European genotypes, what don't people not understand about that? I'd most definitely disown a daughter who race mixed but wouldn't get an abortion in that situation.

Saiwania wrote:

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:It seems like an exaggeration because it is. There's no "destroying." It has jack-fuck-all to do with "liberal politics." It's literally a matter of white people are still hoarding resources and wealth, to the point that we are experiencing the first generation with a decline in birth rate because life for whites is so good that they don't need to have children. And white people aren't screaming about racial purity as much or disowning their daughters for dating black men. I mean, there still are some, and they wont shut the fuck up, but there are fewer of them.

It is no exaggeration and it is at minimum, diluting the White skin color and European genotypes, what do people not understand about that? I'd most definitely disown a daughter who race mixed but wouldn't get an abortion in that situation.

Pacomia wrote:

Saiwania wrote:
It is no exaggeration and it is at minimum, diluting the White skin color and European genotypes, what do people not understand about that? I'd most definitely disown a daughter who race mixed but wouldn't get an abortion in that situation.

I don’t know why keeping your race pure is so important to you. What’s so great about it? Non-whites are functionally no different from whites.

Saiwania wrote:In a situation where someone is more likely to always be in poverty, there is nothing to lose for them if they're already at the bottom in status, if they decide to have kids anyways. They might as well breed while they can, instead of waiting until they're too old to have children. If they can't afford their children, they can always be abandoned to community care or adoption if not foster care.

Why else would all the poorest countries tend to have the highest fertility rates?

Saiwania wrote:In a situation where someone is more likely to always be in poverty, there is nothing to lose for them if they're already at the bottom in status, if they decide to have kids anyways. They might as well breed while they can, instead of waiting until they're too old to have children. If they can't afford their children, they can always be abandoned to community care or adoption if not foster care.

Why else would all the poorest countries tend to have the highest fertility rates?

Saiwania wrote:

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:It seems like an exaggeration because it is. There's no "destroying." It has jack-fuck-all to do with "liberal politics." It's literally a matter of white people are still hoarding resources and wealth, to the point that we are experiencing the first generation with a decline in birth rate because life for whites is so good that they don't need to have children. And white people aren't screaming about racial purity as much or disowning their daughters for dating black men. I mean, there still are some, and they wont shut the fuck up, but there are fewer of them.

It is no exaggeration and it is at minimum, diluting the White skin color and European genotypes, what do people not understand about that? I'd most definitely disown a daughter who race mixed but wouldn't get an abortion in that situation.

Vassenor wrote:So here's a question: If abortion bans aren't about controlling women but actually about abortion, why aren't the fathers subject to jail time as well?

After all pregnancy is very much a case of "it takes two to tango".

United Muscovite Nations wrote:

Vassenor wrote:So here's a question: If abortion bans aren't about controlling women but actually about abortion, why aren't the fathers subject to jail time as well?

After all pregnancy is very much a case of "it takes two to tango".

If the fathers pressured the woman into getting an abortion, they should absolutely go to prison for their role in it and arguably face a worse punishment than the woman.

Vassenor wrote:We keep being told about it being the mother aborting kids she can't afford, but surely in that case the father should be on the hook too.

Vassenor wrote:We keep being told about it being the mother aborting kids she can't afford, but surely in that case the father should be on the hook too.

USS Monitor wrote:

Vassenor wrote:We keep being told about it being the mother aborting kids she can't afford, but surely in that case the father should be on the hook too.

Vass, I'm pro-choice, but I don't think this is a strong argument. Pro-lifers want to ban abortion, not bring back debtors' prisons.

United Muscovite Nations wrote:

Vassenor wrote:So here's a question: If abortion bans aren't about controlling women but actually about abortion, why aren't the fathers subject to jail time as well?

After all pregnancy is very much a case of "it takes two to tango".

If the fathers pressured the woman into getting an abortion, they should absolutely go to prison for their role in it and arguably face a worse punishment than the woman.

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:

Saiwania wrote:
It is no exaggeration and it is at minimum, diluting the White skin color and European genotypes, what don't people not understand about that? I'd most definitely disown a daughter who race mixed but wouldn't get an abortion in that situation.

Ew, ya nasty.

The Alma Mater wrote:

United Muscovite Nations wrote:If the fathers pressured the woman into getting an abortion, they should absolutely go to prison for their role in it and arguably face a worse punishment than the woman.

But what if two men struggle near a pregnant woman, accidentally hitting her and causing a miscarriage, but with no further mischief - would a fine not be more appropiate then ?
Assuming the husband demands one.

Pacomia wrote:

Saiwania wrote:
How can I stand idly by as my kin are allowing themselves to be destroyed via Liberal politics and disastrous decisions such as mass immigration from the developing world?

Have you noticed how everyone else is fine with this? My mother is Asian and my father is white. Neither of them have any problem with their impure child. I don’t see why you should.

Also, white people being “destroyed” seems like a huge exaggeration. It’s more like white people are being “introduced to the idea that they can reproduce with someone who isn’t the same skin colour as them and nothing would be wrong because white and non-white people are functionally no different”.

Also, y’all are the ones who LITERALLY destroyed the Neanderthals. You probably have some Neanderthal blood. Neanderthals were non-white, and you either killed or interbreeded with them all. Note how the Neanderthals had no problem with you interbreeding with them- either that or you raped them, which is... bad.

United Muscovite Nations wrote:

Vassenor wrote:So here's a question: If abortion bans aren't about controlling women but actually about abortion, why aren't the fathers subject to jail time as well?

After all pregnancy is very much a case of "it takes two to tango".

If the fathers pressured the woman into getting an abortion, they should absolutely go to prison for their role in it and arguably face a worse punishment than the woman.