[Abortion Thread] (YET ANOTHER POLL!) Taking measure.

[Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft]

So you are proposing that women defend their abortion rights with guns...?

We are getting deeper and deeper down the rabbit hole here...

Why shouldn't they? SocCons are going to do everything they can to punish women for getting abortions or contraception should they get the chance. If we get to that point, what is wrong with self-defense against unjust persecution?

Some US states will still have legal abortions if Roe v. Wade is overturned, such as California (which in fact has constitutional protections for abortion rights). Abortion clinics there are going to be getting a lot of patients...

[The New California Republic]

Umm... yes it is, and since when is abortion a right?

Since time immemorial. Any law or ruling against it is illegitimate...

Complete nonsense. No right is eternal.

[Frievolk]

There are no legal rights, there are only rights.

And what evidence is there to back up the claim that abortion rights are written into the fabric of the universe?

>natural law
>evidence
You really have no idea how natural law works do you

[Freezic Vast]

And what evidence is there to back up the claim that abortion rights are written into the fabric of the universe?

How about you prove it's Not? All progressive rights are in the fabric of the universe. All laws against them are illegitment...

What fucking nonsense is this?!

[Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft]

And what evidence is there to back up the claim that abortion rights are written into the fabric of the universe?

How about you prove it's Not? All progressive rights are in the fabric of the universe. All laws against them are illegitment...

The burden of proof is on you, who made the assertion that abortion rights are somehow written into co-variant quantum fields (and can't spell "illegitimate").

[Triassica]

Why shouldn't they? SocCons are going to do everything they can to punish women for getting abortions or contraception should they get the chance. If we get to that point, what is wrong with self-defense against unjust persecution?

Some US states will still have legal abortions if Roe v. Wade is overturned, such as California (which in fact has constitutional protections for abortion rights). Abortion clinics there are going to be getting a lot of patients...

Yeah, but what about people who can't afford to move across the country? What they pass something similar to the Fugitive Slave Act for pregnant women to keep them from escaping the red states? Pregnant women are automatically property of state once they are told they have no right over their Anatomy...

[The New California Republic]

All progressive rights are in the fabric of the universe.

Shit, we have got some quasi-mystical bullshit at work here...

All laws against them are illegitment...

Illegitimate. I already told you about that word.

[Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft]

Some US states will still have legal abortions if Roe v. Wade is overturned, such as California (which in fact has constitutional protections for abortion rights). Abortion clinics there are going to be getting a lot of patients...

Yeah, but what about people who can't afford to move across the country? What they pass something similar to the Fugitive Slave Act for pregnant women to keep them from escaping the red states? Pregnant women are automatically property of state once they are told they have no right over their Anatomy...

The next logical step for such a government is to rename the United States of America "Gilead".

[The New California Republic]

Some US states will still have legal abortions if Roe v. Wade is overturned, such as California (which in fact has constitutional protections for abortion rights). Abortion clinics there are going to be getting a lot of patients...

Yeah, but what about people who can't afford to move across the country? What they pass something similar to the Fugitive Slave Act for pregnant women to keep them from escaping the red states? Pregnant women are automatically property of state once they are told they have no right over their Anatomy...

Hyperbolic bull. First you say that women should use guns to defend abortion rights, and now you are ridiculously applying slave laws to the issue of abortion??

[Freezic Vast]

Some US states will still have legal abortions if Roe v. Wade is overturned, such as California (which in fact has constitutional protections for abortion rights). Abortion clinics there are going to be getting a lot of patients...

Yeah, but what about people who can't afford to move across the country? What they pass something similar to the Fugitive Slave Act for pregnant women to keep them from escaping the red states? Pregnant women are automatically property of state once they are told they have no right over their Anatomy...

You are looking way too far into this and always coming up with the most inane, crazy conspiracies like this as if there's a snowball's chance in Hell that it will happen. Spoiler alert: it won't.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Yeah, but what about people who can't afford to move across the country? What they pass something similar to the Fugitive Slave Act for pregnant women to keep them from escaping the red states? Pregnant women are automatically property of state once they are told they have no right over their Anatomy...

You are looking way too far into this and always coming up with the most inane, crazy conspiracies like this as if there's a snowball's chance in Hell that it will happen. Spoiler alert: it won't.

Yeeeah... I doubt such a thing will happen. Fugitive Preggo Slave Act. Sounds kinda funny, the name. >.>

[The New California Republic]

Yeah, but what about people who can't afford to move across the country? What they pass something similar to the Fugitive Slave Act for pregnant women to keep them from escaping the red states? Pregnant women are automatically property of state once they are told they have no right over their Anatomy...

You are looking way too far into this and always coming up with the most inane, crazy conspiracies like this as if there's a snowball's chance in Hell that it will happen. Spoiler alert: it won't.

That's exactly what this looks like, it reads like a crackpot conspiracy theory that is so unbelievably out there and hyped up that it just collapses into a chaotic and unstructured pile of ridiculousness...

[Triassica]

Yeah, but what about people who can't afford to move across the country? What they pass something similar to the Fugitive Slave Act for pregnant women to keep them from escaping the red states? Pregnant women are automatically property of state once they are told they have no right over their Anatomy...

The next logical step for such a government is to rename the United States of America "Gilead".

And the Religious Right's wet dream will be nearly complete...

[Triassica]

You are looking way too far into this and always coming up with the most inane, crazy conspiracies like this as if there's a snowball's chance in Hell that it will happen. Spoiler alert: it won't.

Yeeeah... I doubt such a thing will happen. Fugitive Preggo Slave Act. Sounds kinda funny, the name. >.>

Why wouldn't They? They gotta "save dah babbes" after all. Going over to another state to commit "murder" would be a big no no in their eyes...

[The New California Republic]

The next logical step for such a government is to rename the United States of America "Gilead".

And the Religious Right's wet dream will be nearly complete...

Come on man, give it up, this ridiculous conspiracy theory has gone on for long enough. Notice that everyone who has responded to your posts has responded negatively? That should tell you something buddy, it really should...

[Freezic Vast]

And the Religious Right's wet dream will be nearly complete...

Come on man, give it up, this ridiculous conspiracy theory has gone on for long enough. Notice that everyone who has responded to your posts has responded negatively? That should tell you something buddy, it really should...

He won't, he sees everything that goes against his values, even in the tiniest form as evil and against him.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Yeeeah... I doubt such a thing will happen. Fugitive Preggo Slave Act. Sounds kinda funny, the name. >.>

Why wouldn't They? They gotta "save dah babbes" after all. Going over to another state to commit "murder" would be a big no no in their eyes...

Er, because women are not considered slaves, and have rights under the constitution... I'm sure you know this. I mean, I can see that you're a fan of The Handmaid's Tale but come on.

[Geneviev]

Yeeeah... I doubt such a thing will happen. Fugitive Preggo Slave Act. Sounds kinda funny, the name. >.>

Why wouldn't They? They gotta "save dah babbes" after all. Going over to another state to commit "murder" would be a big no no in their eyes...

I'm sorry, what? That's ridiculous.

[Triassica]

Why wouldn't They? They gotta "save dah babbes" after all. Going over to another state to commit "murder" would be a big no no in their eyes...

Er, because women are not considered slaves, and have rights under the constitution... I'm sure you know this. I mean, I can see that you're a fan of The Handmaid's Tale but come on.

What difference does it make when you are forced through a pregnancy you dont want?

[Freezic Vast]

Er, because women are not considered slaves, and have rights under the constitution... I'm sure you know this. I mean, I can see that you're a fan of The Handmaid's Tale but come on.

What difference does it make to be forced through a pregnancy you dont want?

Talk to me when men start whipping their wives to pick cotton up.

[The New California Republic]

Er, because women are not considered slaves, and have rights under the constitution... I'm sure you know this. I mean, I can see that you're a fan of The Handmaid's Tale but come on.

What difference does it make to be forced through a pregnancy you dont want?

Still doesn't equate to slavery and the slavery laws, no matter how much you bend and contort it, that square peg just doesn't fit into that hole I'm afraid.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Er, because women are not considered slaves, and have rights under the constitution... I'm sure you know this. I mean, I can see that you're a fan of The Handmaid's Tale but come on.

What difference does it make to be forced through a pregnancy you dont want?

I don't think any woman should be forced to carry to term or to abort. That's what being pro-choice is about. But your scenario is rather silly. Even red states in the US can't prosecute women for having an abortion. Especially not when said abortion is performed in the allotted time.

[Triassica]

What difference does it make to be forced through a pregnancy you dont want?

Talk to me when men start whipping their wives to pick cotton up.

Forced pregnancy is slavery...

[Triassica]

What difference does it make to be forced through a pregnancy you dont want?

I don't think any woman should be forced to carry to term or to abort. That's what being pro-choice is about. But your scenario is rather silly. Even red states in the US can't prosecute women for having an abortion. Especially not when said abortion is performed in the allotted time.

I'm talking about when Roe v wade gets overturned...

[Freezic Vast]

Talk to me when men start whipping their wives to pick cotton up.

Forced pregnancy is slavery...

In your fantasy land maybe...