You try and enslave my person just so you can live and by golly gosh am I going to defend myself upto and including killing you.
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by Woodfiredpizzas » Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:06 pm
by Internationalist Bastard » Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:15 pm
Woodfiredpizzas wrote:Northern Davincia wrote:Does anyone else have the right to kill you or me? Does anyone else have the right to plunge scalpels into our heads or poison us?
You try and enslave my person just so you can live and by golly gosh am I going to defend myself upto and including killing you.
by Internationalist Bastard » Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:33 pm
by The Caleshan Valkyrie » Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:21 pm
by Republic of Turbin » Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:10 am
by Jebslund » Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:29 am
Republic of Turbin wrote:Hello NSG, So basically I want to ask you guys a question so on friday my school will be hosting a state senator to talk about Reproductive Health Act. We are gonna be asking questions to the state senator is there any questions you guys wanna ask him?
(Context: our history teacher gave us an assignment to write on the RHA bill in New York, which basically evolved into this.)
by San Lumen » Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:30 am
Woodfiredpizzas wrote:Northern Davincia wrote:Does anyone else have the right to kill you or me? Does anyone else have the right to plunge scalpels into our heads or poison us?
You try and enslave my person just so you can live and by golly gosh am I going to defend myself upto and including killing you.
by Republic of Turbin » Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:37 am
Jebslund wrote:Republic of Turbin wrote:Hello NSG, So basically I want to ask you guys a question so on friday my school will be hosting a state senator to talk about Reproductive Health Act. We are gonna be asking questions to the state senator is there any questions you guys wanna ask him?
(Context: our history teacher gave us an assignment to write on the RHA bill in New York, which basically evolved into this.)
You realise asking for homework help is against the rules, right? Also, this thread is for discussing abortion, not for generating questions for you to ask a senator.
by Farnhamia » Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:40 am
Republic of Turbin wrote:Jebslund wrote:You realise asking for homework help is against the rules, right? Also, this thread is for discussing abortion, not for generating questions for you to ask a senator.
1. The question is not a grade I was interested to see what questions people are asking from nsg.
2.This topic does correlate with the topic seeing as we are asking questions to the senator concerning the Reproductive Health Act.
3. I wanted to ask the question not for myself but to hear the thoughts of the nsg.
by Northern Davincia » Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:48 am
Woodfiredpizzas wrote:Northern Davincia wrote:Does anyone else have the right to kill you or me? Does anyone else have the right to plunge scalpels into our heads or poison us?
You try and enslave my person just so you can live and by golly gosh am I going to defend myself upto and including killing you.
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
by Godular » Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:27 pm
Woodfiredpizzas wrote:
You try and enslave my person just so you can live and by golly gosh am I going to defend myself upto and including killing you.
Define slavery.
by Northern Davincia » Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:29 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
by The Caleshan Valkyrie » Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:03 am
Northern Davincia wrote:Godular wrote:
There's a bunch of definitions, some of which actually come very much into parallel with rape. Why are you even asking? You going to try and no-true-scotslavery or something?
If you cannot define slavery, we have no common ground for what is and isn't slavery. If you believe a fetus is part of the mother's body, we are left with the conclusion that the mother is enslaving herself.
by The Alma Mater » Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:49 am
by The Feylands » Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:59 am
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by The New California Republic » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:32 am
The Feylands wrote:People making decisions about when a life is a life doesn't feel that swell imho. Because it's always gonna be an arbitrary thing.
The Feylands wrote:I feel more positive about the "rights" of fetuses more than those of adult humans for the same reason I support animal rights - these are innocent beings who cannot defend themselves and have done nothing to deserve suffering or death.
The Feylands wrote:On top of that - the social implications are very bad. It's another symptom of the "sexual revolution" that was all about men's desires, were women have to suffer the consequences.
The Feylands wrote:Without any sense of decency or ethics, a man is just a primitive sex machine, as he is physically designed like that
The Feylands wrote:(I don't think I have to do sex education with you guys and explain the anatomy behind this lol).
The Feylands wrote: And we have a culture that doesn't do enough to teach men ideals about their natural duty to protecting women, but rather urges women to adopt bad male qualities for the sake of "equality".
The Feylands wrote:Women are by nature generally speaking (not always on an individual level) more empathic and have a greater sense of beauty and dignity than men.
The Feylands wrote:Abortions are a corruption of what it means to be a woman.
by The Feylands » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:02 am
Here's the problem. You have this unnatural "logical" way of thinking that a baby is somehow relatable to a virus or whatever because "muh rights" and humans have a "right" to do whatever they want with their bodies. No, you don't.The New California Republic wrote:If an animal, let's for example's sake say a dog, was inside my body leeching nutrients to stay alive and I don't want it there, and the only way to get rid of it is to remove it through a procedure that will result in its death, then that's what must be done. Sorry.
Now you're being black-and-white and red tapely. I never wrote that men were solely for sex. But the way male sexuality works would make a man a fairly primitive beast if he had no sense of morals and ethics and such. These differences can even be noted across the sexual orientations. Gay men watch a lot more porn with men than women do.The New California Republic wrote:Fucking load of nonsense. If man was solely for sex, then man would be a sphere (a testicle...?) with hundreds of penises protruding out of it.
To deny the fact that only women can bear children is to deny nature. Yeh - women are many things, individually as well as collectively, but having babies is a typical female trait. This is probably one of the reasons for women being more empathic than men.The New California Republic wrote:Only if you consider women to be nothing more than baby factories...
Hey there u! I'm Fey - the Celestial Fairy Princess! "Mᴀᴋɪɴɢ NS ᴄᴏsɪᴇʀ sɪɴᴄᴇ 2017!"® (◕‿◕✿) ♀, Vegetarian, Crazy Cat Lady, Dharmic Pagan, Metal, Fantasy, Elf/Fairy, Chinaboo, Yogi etc. How can I be so cuddly and huggable? ♥♥♥ Because I exist to ease the suffering of this world! (⌒▽⌒) #TheBuddhaRocks Little secret: I have a superpower called "ADHD". (^̮^) | ♥Her Radiance's Celestial Thought♥ Neat: Essentialism, Monarchy, Difference Feminism, Animal rights, Green Conservatism, 中国, Beauty, Dignity of all life ಠ~ಠ: Passive aggressive dorks, Abrahamic/Antropocentric world-view(s), the EU, celebrating ugliness.. I support Israel and everyone who suffer needlessly because of their own compassion.♥ (ಥ﹏ಥ) |
by The New California Republic » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:28 am
The Feylands wrote:The New California Republic wrote:If an animal, let's for example's sake say a dog, was inside my body leeching nutrients to stay alive and I don't want it there, and the only way to get rid of it is to remove it through a procedure that will result in its death, then that's what must be done. Sorry.
Here's the problem. You have this unnatural "logical" way of thinking that a baby is somehow relatable to a virus or whatever because "muh rights" and humans have a "right" to do whatever they want with their bodies. No, you don't.
The Feylands wrote:We were all on that stage at some point. It's not just some random bacteria we have a "right" to get rid of.
The Feylands wrote:Without any sense of decency or ethics, a man is just a primitive sex machine, as he is physically designed like that
The Feylands wrote:But the way male sexuality works would make a man a fairly primitive beast if he had no sense of morals and ethics and such.
The Feylands wrote:These differences can even be noted across the sexual orientations. Gay men watch a lot more porn with men than women do.
The Feylands wrote:Abortions are thus a negative male influence on our culture. They exist so that men don't have to control their primitive sexual desires. And women have to bear the consequences of that.
The Feylands wrote:To deny the fact that only women can bear children is to deny nature. Yeh - women are many things, individually as well as collectively, but having babies is a typical female trait.
The Feylands wrote:Abortions are a corruption of what it means to be a woman.
by Genivaria » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:55 am
by Christian Confederation » Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:02 am
by Evil Dictators Happyland » Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:05 am
Genivaria wrote:Something I've asked repeatedly on this thread that noone has answered is this:
Why should a 'future person' carry the same importance as a 'present person'.
In most cases when we talk of something that 'will be' we understand that the implication is that the thing doesn't yet exist.
by Jebslund » Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:11 am
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:Genivaria wrote:Something I've asked repeatedly on this thread that noone has answered is this:
Why should a 'future person' carry the same importance as a 'present person'.
In most cases when we talk of something that 'will be' we understand that the implication is that the thing doesn't yet exist.
This was always my issue with 90% of the pro-life arguments. If a fetus is given human rights based on the fact that its purpose is to develop into a walking, breathing human, then could you not use the same argument to defend sperm cells? Do they have human rights, too? If a fetus absorbs its twin (which happens more often than I initially expected), is that murder? There is no possible explanation for a fetus counting as a separate human being that doesn't bring up many other questions that, while definitely answerable, do not have answers that make logical sense.
by The Feylands » Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:47 am
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:This was always my issue with 90% of the pro-life arguments. If a fetus is given human rights based on the fact that its purpose is to develop into a walking, breathing human, then could you not use the same argument to defend sperm cells? Do they have human rights, too? If a fetus absorbs its twin (which happens more often than I initially expected), is that murder? There is no possible explanation for a fetus counting as a separate human being that doesn't bring up many other questions that, while definitely answerable, do not have answers that make logical sense.
Hey there u! I'm Fey - the Celestial Fairy Princess! "Mᴀᴋɪɴɢ NS ᴄᴏsɪᴇʀ sɪɴᴄᴇ 2017!"® (◕‿◕✿) ♀, Vegetarian, Crazy Cat Lady, Dharmic Pagan, Metal, Fantasy, Elf/Fairy, Chinaboo, Yogi etc. How can I be so cuddly and huggable? ♥♥♥ Because I exist to ease the suffering of this world! (⌒▽⌒) #TheBuddhaRocks Little secret: I have a superpower called "ADHD". (^̮^) | ♥Her Radiance's Celestial Thought♥ Neat: Essentialism, Monarchy, Difference Feminism, Animal rights, Green Conservatism, 中国, Beauty, Dignity of all life ಠ~ಠ: Passive aggressive dorks, Abrahamic/Antropocentric world-view(s), the EU, celebrating ugliness.. I support Israel and everyone who suffer needlessly because of their own compassion.♥ (ಥ﹏ಥ) |
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